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mircea_popescu: everyone hates a verb ;/
mircea_popescu: that's 4 now.
mircea_popescu: i dunno how to extract a sentence out of your last two lines.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes how do you mean ?
mircea_popescu: (which is how this works, when my disintersted luddite view humiliates him he lashes out)
mircea_popescu: lmao
mircea_popescu: pretty much
mircea_popescu: = oil
mircea_popescu: darn!
mircea_popescu: phf it also happens to be my point :D
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes he's russian whadda ya want.
mircea_popescu: this only exists because asym crypto.
mircea_popescu: fine example in the logs today ; http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-01#1494280 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: -V motherfuckers!
mircea_popescu: how do you reason
mircea_popescu: phf what's this symmetric key fixation ?
mircea_popescu: or things that work.
mircea_popescu: hard to do when there's nobody with a clue in "the team", obv.
mircea_popescu: of course, if you read the java-esque nightmare that "solidity" is, reimplementing eth as a small emu thing would benefit it immensely.
mircea_popescu: definitely.
mircea_popescu: reimplementing bitcoin is not the end of the world anyway. the extant version is crap.
mircea_popescu: you want contact to my uci interface, we agree in advance, and i whitelist your key.
mircea_popescu: phf nothing wrong with whitelist access.
mircea_popescu: the one tricky bit is that other one tricky bit.
mircea_popescu: i certainly see the argument re SMALL.
mircea_popescu: fundamentally uci is a lateral pill for the hardware problem, oddly enough.
mircea_popescu: so it becomes "winner takes all" sorta tourney.
mircea_popescu: main reason hardware is so centralizing today is exactly lack of this sort of marketplace,
mircea_popescu: "is your dec alpha/toaster/bitcoin miner pluggable into uci ? cool, then it makes money. no ? it's broken fix it"
mircea_popescu: HOWEVER, it will create, if successful, a ready way to resolve http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-28#1492111 and such problems. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: the whole point of uci is for there to be no more platform in that sense. course, this seems an unlikely goal.
mircea_popescu: yeah, the platform specificity is a bitch.
mircea_popescu: hence, -V.
mircea_popescu: i'm not saying that we are, but WHY NOT must be stated, and in such a way 107 iq guy in 2049 reading this understands exactly wtf.
mircea_popescu: why not ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, -V means, be verbose. put your idea in explicit form.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes that there's no specific check or test other than top | grep "ram" sorta thing.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform -V
mircea_popescu: if we do a "trust but verify" no agreement all code, we end up strongly decentralizing, but exposed to you know, thedao.
mircea_popescu: anyway, this is a political choice mostly. if we do a "gentleman's agreement" and no code sorta thing, we end up strongly centralizing, army of lovers.
mircea_popescu: in general yes. but wot-open is not open.
mircea_popescu: at the other end of the spectrum, it can just be open bash and well, don't take code from people you don't trust.
mircea_popescu: seems to be coallescing that way
mircea_popescu: not the end of the world, 1700 business orders carried expiration.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if we do it like that will have to have expiration.
mircea_popescu: script should prolly include a "needs C"
mircea_popescu: gordian solution to turing problem.
mircea_popescu: arbitrary set by box owner
mircea_popescu: aha
mircea_popescu: notquite, no.
mircea_popescu: ie, some sort of arm/embeddable os approach
mircea_popescu: more along these lines i'm thinking.
mircea_popescu: no i know, it's not on you ; just, the matter has to be discuss't.
mircea_popescu: i think it's time to bury that corpse, it smells.
mircea_popescu: silk road hurt the shit out of itself with "their own tools"
mircea_popescu: they know more holes in "their own tools" than you do.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes too many lines of code
mircea_popescu: bear in mind, we're not selling investors on this. cheap, broken, angry sample to iterate on is jus' fine.
mircea_popescu: even if you just run top and count ram/cpu it's close enough
mircea_popescu: yeah but we don't have that cheat as of yet
mircea_popescu: anyway. uci is not gossipd. there is a good reason to implement gossipd OVER uci, but on the uci layer the thing shouldn't be concerned with this kind of security i don't thinl
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the tor model is, other than its many implementation warts, fundamentally broken i think.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i'm thinking a "independent nodes" sort of botnet, as opposed to the zombie windowze thing usually run
mircea_popescu: not entirely sure bash it is the right way here ; but it does cheaply (in cognitive terms) expose the system for usage. which is why ssh runs into a bash shell.
mircea_popescu: then uci responds with "script ran, results os and so, paqy here"
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes ideally it'd be more like "run this bash script"
mircea_popescu: it wouldn't necessarily be over irc, though irc IS rather resilient and we get the benefit of bootstrapping a major irc network if we bake it in
mircea_popescu: ie, uci admin thing advertises what it does, gets an order.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i would expect there'd have to be a management language for this.
mircea_popescu: anyway, feel free to propose refinements, ima edit it.
mircea_popescu: this is true.
mircea_popescu: myeah.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform either that or homomorphic encryption
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes read from and write to yes
mircea_popescu: it's really a draft of a spec as it is.
mircea_popescu: possibly.
mircea_popescu: it must be capable to open a socket i think.
mircea_popescu: you mean 7 ?
mircea_popescu: inb4 shinohai is all "how dare you dis my wife OMG VENDETTA"
mircea_popescu: shinohai meh, crappy rum crappy girl an wtf is with those ties.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, just the guy's private history. bulgaria wouldn't extradite him a few years ago ; before that was wounded in daghestan but survived etc.
mircea_popescu: $up fiddlerwoaroof
mircea_popescu: lol yeah, didn't mean for qntra. just mentioned it because it seems to me the "isis" figthers were ru special forces. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: sooo... cechens blew up ataturk airport huh
mircea_popescu: what do you eat that your shits are 8 m across ?!
mircea_popescu: nah, from 1/2mm to about 8cm iirc.
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/since-what-you-do-all-day-is-jack-off-anyway/#comment-93555 << in other antique trilema lulz, check out what people didn't make a bitcoin for.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-01#1494360 << my bet would be that no, because easier :D ☝︎
mircea_popescu: it's always a little disappointing when i hit the last lines of the logs ;/
mircea_popescu: yeah, not half bad.
mircea_popescu: heresy, i know. but it's a square.
mircea_popescu: so i posit to you that your problem is not even slightly a matter of "wrong knife", along the lines of, "if only i had hyfdrofluoric acid - could melt glass", but more of low energy. you wish to amass moar power not more knowledge, to dent teh pot.
mircea_popescu: it's like forcefield made of god's own pee.
mircea_popescu: thing about glass is - perfect material in low energy envelope.
mircea_popescu: note how many of your knives run against glass.
mircea_popescu: this would be an accurate depiction of "folks".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that is a chick contorting herself in an insane position so her own urine dribble falls in her own mouth while some standing guy is also pissing in her mouth.
mircea_popescu: more women use king.com apps than any sort of glass vessel! 10:1!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ahahah-HAHA!