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mircea_popescu: fucking canada. pretending to be a country, unqualified on the force of its inhabitants to be a deserted island.
mircea_popescu: jesus shit the cardboard experts tardworld keeps "producing" in name only.
mircea_popescu: people let spies act unhindered ALL THE TIME. for the perfectly fine obvious reason.
mircea_popescu: "Livermore said it would be “totally irresponsible” for the Ukrainians to allow Yezhov to participate in an official delegation if they had suspicions he might be a spy." << dude get the fuck out, total fucktarded imbecile.
asciilifeform does not own a 'kurta', they are at this point museum-level rarity
shinohai: Naturally, this unsecured db was found on an Amazon server
shinohai: ah true
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform only if not expected to put back again :D
asciilifeform: i betcha mircea_popescu would enjoy taking apart a 'kurta'
mircea_popescu: shinohai actually the us only has 90mn or so households iirc.
shinohai: 1/2 the US!
mircea_popescu: ye olde sunfunction clocks, rite ? some of the best piles of fine gnarl the world has ever seen
shinohai: "Alteryx , a marketing analytics firm, left an unsecured database online that publicly exposed sensitive information for about 123 million U.S. households. "
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu wants a very specific function, he gotta say algebraically which. and the pile of gears will get gnarlier, quite quickly ...
a111: Logged on 2017-12-23 16:27 mircea_popescu: iirc that averages.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-23#1757425 << on meditation i will have to withdraw this objection. even if he didn't say what i wanted him to, solution is still correct (because there's no difference between "average stepped up 2x" and "difference" if you make sure the gears always run opposite) ☝︎
asciilifeform: and yes it means that every time you publish a sig, you also thereby supply a 'decryption' for some random string of soup
shinohai: http://archive.is/Rtx2b <<< Treazon!
asciilifeform: ( for n00bz : rsasign and rsadecrypt are the same operation, mathematically)
asciilifeform: eh it was obvious to anyone who ever heard his cpu bzz on nearby radio
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes but they didn't know this then.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-23 15:56 mircea_popescu: (if memory serves the original split, design choice made late 1990s, was due to either suspicion or reality that either sign or decrypt possibly leaked bits ; the idea of separate keys is not even bad, necessarily, but this does NOT say anything positive about a clunky, ad hoc, untransparent and machine-automagical key hierarchy system. so basically, people probably will have at least two keys in tmsr-rsa, except they won't b
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-23#1757381 << decrypt timing-oracle elementarily leaks bits. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: incidentally, anyone know the ancient watt meter ? two pendulums with coiled wire.
shinohai suddenly wonders if pete_dushenski has ever seen those steam-powered clocks that are in Canada .... ☟︎
mircea_popescu: there can not exist such a thing as a perfectly homogenuous bar of steel for the exact reason there can not exist a perfectly detailed etch on its surface.
shinohai: (pendlums too)
asciilifeform: b/w object that is imperfect because of limitations of the materials, and one that is broken because of limitations of the designer, who was dropped as a child
shinohai: Thermal expansion being major factor in inaccuracy of mechanical things
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: physically, known-imperfectly tho. rather than 'js soup'-imperfectly.
mircea_popescu: clocks worked imperfectly even then.
shinohai: Bet those are interesting read, asciilifeform .... any digitized?
asciilifeform: it was the kompyooting of its time. except : actually worked...
asciilifeform: iirc the artillery people did it with worm gear differential
mircea_popescu: (this incidentally is fascinating to the historian of computing because obviously analogic computers work on crankboxes)
asciilifeform: ( actually several ways to do it, because in actual life you seldom want tight 2way coupling of output to input shaft )
mircea_popescu: iirc that averages. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-23 15:44 mircea_popescu: here's a thing for the mechanical engineers in da hous, ben_vulpes asciilifeform and who ye might be : given two driving pegs A, B, how do you turn a spoke C such that it realises the DIFFERENTIAL A-B ?
shinohai: Did anyone here ever read the Bitcoin wallet plugin for gribble? I don't think it was updated (or in actual use anywhere!) but I think I remember axing it from jhvh1 because you could query any users balance with it.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-23 09:34 trinque: anyhow weevlos, and all you miserable, worthless 4chan fucks. the fact of the matter is there's less than one part per million worthwhile human being on this wretched planet, and while I spent my evening drinking pinot noir and chatting with a worthwhile lass that bought me Feynman's Lectures on Physics for xmas, you spent it pulling your dick on social media. when the world turns over, you will have much
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-23#1757357 << this is an iffy point m'lord. i have a slavegirl that washes the floors ; the floors is where the cockroaches go. should she be punished ? ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-23 09:27 trinque: does appear that when using the gentoo musltronic patches, the step from 6 -> 5 -> 4 gcc is necessary.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-23#1757354 << this is so. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-23 03:53 asciilifeform: speaking of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-23#1757328 , today's ffa-series item will appear tomorrow, apparently was too big a bite for asciilifeform's mere 1wk
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-23#1757338 << you know you're supposed to plan these for yourself so you yourself can then execute them! if you can't do it for yourself, what hope has any peon working under your management ? eh ? ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-23 02:22 BigTexasBingo: From gpg from gribble auth, from a whole lot of accumulated trash
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-23#1757329 << nah, gribble auth was mostly fixed last split ; then gribble was going to be upgraded and never actually was. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-23 02:20 trinque: just pointing out that I might be corrupting the youfs by not taking a firmer line on "put a sane single key into deedbot and always have it, or proceed by the *only* mechanism to change key, or die"
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-23#1757327 << this is a solid concern also. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: the pompous idiocy of the zek, i swear.
mircea_popescu: then again, in due time you'll disover the ~other~ thing was a waste of time, odds are.
mircea_popescu: indeed ; nobody here is interested in your tulpas.
blazeme8: well, i'm not interested in linking a 'real' identity. perhaps this is a waste of time.
mircea_popescu: there's no such thing as nude birth nor there yet was in the history of the world. everyone's born with some shit between his eyes.
mircea_popescu: no man is born without identity. if that man is woman she gets tits eventually ; if that man is not woman at very least has parents, some kind of history...
mircea_popescu: that may be, but ~nobody will think very much of you without an actual identity.
blazeme8: nothing that I want to share here :P
mircea_popescu: blazeme8 ah, no ratings. aite, lessee... what do you do, other than "downtime rocks" ?
mircea_popescu: this poor guy is going to now be highlighted every time noob asks lol.
blazeme8: when I PM the bot !!up, it says:
a111: Logged on 2017-12-22 06:54 mircea_popescu: Techman say /query deedbot to open a pm session ; say !!up in there to it ; then return !!v the string.
blazeme8: ty... i thought i'd be able to do that myself through the bot...?
a111: Logged on 2017-12-23 02:16 BigTexasBingo: In other updates. Chica not requesting an assistance related to the bag snatching, but wants to cook dinner. Uruguay, fuck yeah!
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-23#1757320 << hey, i played with what must've been 38G! boobies last night, and the girl carrying them in the world was all shy and had never seen herself liek, prancing naked around the house. fuck yea latin america, pais de los tetonas lecheras! ☝︎
shinohai: I suppose it wasn't discussed, but I did rather enjoy the learning part of it.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-23 02:10 shinohai: ( otherwise shinohai does not know for what purpose this exercise was done! )
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-23#1757317 << amusingly that was never discussed in practical terms. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: e clumped together into the monster we have now.)
mircea_popescu: (if memory serves the original split, design choice made late 1990s, was due to either suspicion or reality that either sign or decrypt possibly leaked bits ; the idea of separate keys is not even bad, necessarily, but this does NOT say anything positive about a clunky, ad hoc, untransparent and machine-automagical key hierarchy system. so basically, people probably will have at least two keys in tmsr-rsa, except they won't b ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-23 01:56 trinque: my preference is to not end up with some sort of complex "policy" around how deedbot should interact with gpg.
mircea_popescu: so in re http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-23#1757315 which is on the face very sane, we are in fact in the situation of an undesirably very complex policy already. yet another examplke of what tmsr-rsa is intended to fix. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: so in practical nonsense as grandfathered in, we posited already an equivalency so that if 1. something signed by 2FB7B452 and 2. somethinf decrypted by 16B8E32E then therefore 1 = 2 in terms of cryptoproof strength.\
mircea_popescu: then to add insult to injury "picks the right one" also "automatically" at "any time"
a111: Logged on 2017-12-23 01:55 trinque: in the past I have only ever made *any* changes to the deedbot keychain if the person can prove control of both keys, old and new.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-23#1757314 << the principal fucking problem with the rank nonsense we're using is that idiocy of "subkey". consider mine : if you encrypt to 2FB7B452 which ~is~ my key, gpg will nevertheless encrypt to 16B8E32E. because gpg will use the master as sign-only and create a "decryption" key "automatically". ☝︎
mircea_popescu: here's a thing for the mechanical engineers in da hous, ben_vulpes asciilifeform and who ye might be : given two driving pegs A, B, how do you turn a spoke C such that it realises the DIFFERENTIAL A-B ? ☟︎
trinque: more to answer for than the people of walmart
trinque: anyhow weevlos, and all you miserable, worthless 4chan fucks. the fact of the matter is there's less than one part per million worthwhile human being on this wretched planet, and while I spent my evening drinking pinot noir and chatting with a worthwhile lass that bought me Feynman's Lectures on Physics for xmas, you spent it pulling your dick on social media. when the world turns over, you will have much ☟︎
trinque: well. that keybinding is clearly too close to another.
trinque: maybe what ends up happening is that I produce a "stage 3" that's already had this nonsense done to it, though obviously there's value in preserving the lineage (in form of a build script) from gentoo to cuntoo.
trinque: does appear that when using the gentoo musltronic patches, the step from 6 -> 5 -> 4 gcc is necessary. ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: ( recipe closer to danielpbarron's )
asciilifeform: trinque: i must note, my gentoo is ordinary, rather than musltronic
trinque: asciilifeform: you didn't do anything other than remove the gcc-5.x step in my recipe, and worked?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-23#1757275 << iirc gpg actually defaults to generating 2 moduli, sign-only an' decrypt-only ☝︎
asciilifeform: otherwise you will have no end of folx begging for 'just one' exception , and in the end devolve to socially-engineerable usgism
a111: Logged on 2017-12-23 02:20 trinque: just pointing out that I might be corrupting the youfs by not taking a firmer line on "put a sane single key into deedbot and always have it, or proceed by the *only* mechanism to change key, or die"
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-23#1757327 << the important bit ( and iirc i emphasized this in the lamport piece ) is to agree IN ADVANCE ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( it will be obvious to the reader, why. but i'll keep it a fun surprise )
a111: Logged on 2017-12-23 02:21 trinque: it's a rot that flows from relying on gpg, and I've thus far considered that tightening around asciilifeform's P is the appropriate time for it.
asciilifeform: speaking of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-23#1757328 , today's ffa-series item will appear tomorrow, apparently was too big a bite for asciilifeform's mere 1wk ☝︎☟︎
shinohai: to me beauty of your lispbot framework, its easier to keep things contained. i admit has been a bit daunting so far attempting to port all this crap from python.
trinque: "update" is always way more dangerous than "insert" eh?
trinque: the relationship to the wallet is also important to consider. wallet and deedbot do not share state, beyond deedbot initially communicating a (key, nick) pair to wallet. at that time, of course, the wallet is empty.
trinque: anyhow, there's no signing auth mechanism, and I don't want to feature creep the thing. I will however change a key for anybody that demonstrates control of both.
BigTexasBingo: From gpg from gribble auth, from a whole lot of accumulated trash ☟︎
trinque: it's a rot that flows from relying on gpg, and I've thus far considered that tightening around asciilifeform's P is the appropriate time for it. ☟︎
trinque: just pointing out that I might be corrupting the youfs by not taking a firmer line on "put a sane single key into deedbot and always have it, or proceed by the *only* mechanism to change key, or die" ☟︎☟︎
shinohai: no need for bickering VIII: The Kochaclypse
BigTexasBingo: It also matters what key signed the parachute