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asciilifeform: in other noose, 'aggression' patch is apparently ~the~ pill against what ailed zoolag; 482253 -> 484621 in ~12hr , previously that was 3-4 day's worth
a111: Logged on 2017-12-24 04:51 mircea_popescu: then once that's established "fish in the sad patches bin" can go into the "how to participate" list
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-24#1757839 << this is pretty neat idea ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( i.e. nothing ~inside~ the vpatch, suffers )
asciilifeform: ^ this in re: to the ~www~ text strictly !!
a111: Logged on 2017-12-24 06:43 phf: asciilifeform: your blog renderer throws a space after < in -- Less-Than part (which is not in the patch)
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-24#1757842 << the wp 'code' plugin is massive headache, i've been fighting it since ch1 . ( e.g in ch4 i had to replace the " in ('"') with a similar-looking uniturd, because double-escape is apparently impossible ) ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: congrats to phf , the 1st winner of ch4 puzzler.
phf: asciilifeform: your blog renderer throws a space after < in -- Less-Than part (which is not in the patch) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: then once that's established "fish in the sad patches bin" can go into the "how to participate" list ☟︎
phf: asciilifeform: i put your http://btcbase.org/patches/asciilifeform_aggressive_pushgetblocks into http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=experimental, it's a bit messy down there though (heyo), because of a bunch of broken polarbeard patches. i didn't move them to deprecated, because i assume we might still want to regrind them
mircea_popescu: how did that bit go, http://trilema.com/2016/why-is-that/#selection-73.133-91.74
trinque: same idiots that all type "h" to each other, line noise for brain. ☟︎
asciilifeform: they have a , what, 32byte slot allocated for the output of 'find out' ..?
shinohai: I just love these types "trying to find out exactly what is going on here cause i haven't got a god damn clue" but "Nope, can't read logs, boring."
asciilifeform: can't say that i am, shinohai
trinque: "I demand that you delete my informations from this website!"
neur0: yeah that doesn't entertain me
neur0: well i dont save those
asciilifeform: neur0: consider reading the logs ?
neur0: oh i was just trying to find out exactly what is going on here cause i haven't got a god damn clue
asciilifeform: neur0: clock's ticking
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !~later tell phf >> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-24#1757748 << plox to snarf vpatch ☝︎
asciilifeform: !#s tsort
mircea_popescu: anyway, this is a not-so-interesting path to travel. on it we soon arive to "topsort is req'd util, lives on the box".
asciilifeform: usa 'restaurants' are getting , slowly, to where folx will be carryin' folding forks in their boots again
asciilifeform: keccak is a req'd util , lives on the box
asciilifeform: why does it have to ship ~with~ keccak
asciilifeform: i.e. vtron not married to a hasher.
mircea_popescu: there's ~no reason to have legacy DSA sigs in tmsr-rsa ; similarilyt why would i support sha2 in v ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the history stays, i'm sure. why not ?
mircea_popescu: if they are, and ONLY if they are, they can stfu and regrind everything until i get bored of it.
mircea_popescu: except, of course, should they be amenable to sucking a lot of cock labeled inconvenience.
asciilifeform: tools get updated, idiocies removed, etc. but the HISTORY gotta stay.
mircea_popescu: it is THEIR FAULT that such a wish can not currently be granted.
mircea_popescu: people who want their work of today to stand ~forever are more than welcome to quit "programming", pick up assassination as a vocation, go murder everyone with a wikipedia article / mentioned on hacker news.
mircea_popescu: moreover, glacial timescales do not work nor are they useful. once the decision to not wait until 2075 when alf could shat a monolithic world is made, in then follows we will be producing prototype tools and improving upon them.
mircea_popescu: take mpi as a fine example in this vein.
mircea_popescu: they don't come back, their fucking problem.
mircea_popescu: the time for revered ancients is not fucking 2017.
mircea_popescu: i have ~0 interest to bake into permanent history either polarbeard or punkman.
asciilifeform: a vtron ought to have programmable hash knob.
asciilifeform: the constant and entirely unnecessary reset of history is imho urbit-like and a Bad Thing. e.g. polarbeard ain't coming back to regrind his patches, nor is punkman
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes "dig out" means you fix that
mircea_popescu: but as we're restandardizing on keccak errything will have to be reground anyway
trinque: has the algo in viewer though
mircea_popescu: well, phf is moving towards one.
trinque: tangentially yet again, I'd really like a vtron to put in this here cuntoo. ☟︎
ben_vulpes: tangentially relatedly, i'm not seeing much benefit from this aggressive sync mode
ben_vulpes: myeah, as i said "in light of", mostly unearthing for target practice.
asciilifeform: the correct, Troo , algo, is the one used in phf's vtron.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2015-11-14#1323387 is terribly, horribly wrong, disregard. ☝︎
ben_vulpes still rereading whole thread in light of the past few days happenings
a111: Logged on 2015-11-14 02:10 ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: the press algo must then press all same-tree-level leaves for the given leaf, correct?
ben_vulpes: in other topical historical items: http://btcbase.org/log/2015-11-14#1323384 ☝︎
ben_vulpes: i think i just tripped over the multiple-leaves thing as well, had asciilifeform's wires in my patchset
mircea_popescu: it does, yes. and you have plenty of time.
Guest98415: And how much time do I have, I am going to be home in like 20 mins
Guest98415: Does my face have to be visible?
mircea_popescu: basically. look through the history, see how teh other girls did it.
Guest98415: and then get paid?
Guest98415: So you want me to upload the picutre
mircea_popescu: are you teh fetlife czech slut ?
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in other string theory, http://78.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2c3bwC2UL1qetcz3o1_400.gif
ben_vulpes: you know, when getinfo got around to returning
ben_vulpes: just caught 2 more; looks like it might be on a verification tear now
mircea_popescu: many stopped there. slow block.
mircea_popescu: the block propagation thing is faring poorly of late.
mircea_popescu: anyways, loads of prb nodes also stuck 2 to 12 behind. even 20.
asciilifeform: (close to theoretical max sync rate on the given box)
ben_vulpes: will probably use asciilifeform's aggressive patch, as my logs are full of 70000-series nodes advertising sexily high tips
mircea_popescu: trinque no looking at what the status of what i think'd likely be your nodes seems to be
trinque: at any rate I do look to be consistently at least a couple blocks behind. gonna now go back to default maxver and let it run.
trinque: mircea_popescu: lookin on the website? if so that's a timestamp indicating when the page itself was last regenerated.
mircea_popescu again sees trinque ~9 blocks behind
asciilifeform: so far seems to be.
mircea_popescu: for as long as you have other trbs up to speed to support you. but still, useful mod.
asciilifeform: ftr 'aggression' is apparently paying off, 200blox caughtup in <1hr, which previously took 4-5hrs (in the 400k's, to be specific)
mircea_popescu needs frequent breaks for watching naked girlie put away the veuve cliquots and whatnots.
asciilifeform: was 'too cheap to meter' (tm)(r)
asciilifeform: well, when verification took 3s instead of 3min, problem was not visible to the idjit's naked eye
mircea_popescu: very much a case of "driver learned to drive on automatic, thinks gearbox fails to work correctly"
mircea_popescu: but the problem with windows-moder-computerpropellerhead is that he expects items to work correcty in whichever braindamaged manner he expects to use them
mircea_popescu: ironically bdb would have worked for this if correctly implemented.
asciilifeform: ( that , e.g., barrierizes reads correctly, rather than blocking completely )
asciilifeform: and in order for this not to be the case, you need a sane db
mircea_popescu: "i can not send this node any txn for as long as it still asks me for blocks"
mircea_popescu: correct design would have prioritized block delivery over txn delivery, at the delivery point
a111: Logged on 2017-12-23 20:43 asciilifeform: ^^ mod6, ben_vulpes , trinque , mircea_popescu , et al ^^
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-23#1757669 << the mempool insanity is really a close order approximation of ddos in the first place. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-23 20:34 BigTexasBingo: Both parties appear to be chatting in a civil manner porque Montevideo es muy tranqui
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-23#1757667 << well what were they to do, engage in wager of combat ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: hence the observation in the readme.txt.
asciilifeform: it did take a while to reach this state, given as 'wires' are no longer in use. had to actually connect to a working and nonblackholed trb.
asciilifeform: ( funnily enough it is now virtually impossible to connect to, on account of actually getting fed a block ~every time it touches anybody ... )
asciilifeform: fwiw 'aggression' is live on (still syncing...) zoolag, as of today.
asciilifeform: whoever has the resources to test this : plox to write in.
asciilifeform: this is testable empirically; like-so: any N trb nodes built with 'aggression' patch above, and linked via 'wires', should never fall out of height-sync with one another by more than a coupla blox. at any point.
asciilifeform: theoretically (!) this should make 'wires' (see last feb. log) actually work-as-intended. ( asciilifeform not yet tried. )