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jurov:
A Model S owner .... kept
a count of how many times he had to “rescue” (meaning taking control after an alert)
assbot: The ‘driest place on Earth’ is covered in pink flowers after
a crazy year of rain - The Washington Post ... (
http://bit.ly/1WnNJVG )
mircea_popescu: ""Marching gets our message out." No it doesn't, it gets CNN's message out. "We don't watch CNN, we use the internet." Yet given the infinity of the internet you still surf the same 5 websites, looking for and finding exactly what you want, like
a baby playing peekaboo in
a mirror over and over and over and over and over and over and..."
mircea_popescu: (amusingly, they omit versioning for good reason. ceausescu's aparatchicks also had
a "third way", like did the russians, like the peronisto-kirscherists, cuba is in its very own tercera via like is korea like is venezuela like that native midget what's his name sinking peru etc.
mircea_popescu: and it goes into weird from there, "tercera via" is
a thing for the spanishtards
mircea_popescu: multicultural studies : poppedia.es : "Naomi Klein (nacida en Montreal, Canadá, el 8 de mayo de 1970) es una periodista e investigadora canadiense de gran influencia en el movimiento antiglobalización y el socialismo democrático" ; poppedia.en : "Naomi Klein (born May 8, 1970) is
a Canadian author, social activist, and filmmaker known for her political analyses and criticism of corporate globalization and of corpora
assbot: Successfully added
a rating of 1 for peterl with note: writes stuff on occasion.
assbot: Logged on 31-10-2015 22:29:23; mircea_popescu: "Whenever I see
a reference to
a statement that seems insane to me, two things will be true: 1. It will take me as long to get the study as it did to conduct the study, i.e. 45 minutes. No hyperlink. No free access. Then I have to go into the university's PubMed, which takes me through three windows to Science Direct or some other outlet. Why, oh why, can't I just click "(15)" in the original pap
assbot: Logged on 31-10-2015 21:45:55; mircea_popescu: re asciilifeform mpi : the actual extraction, and especially auditing of the rng is
a very worthy project.
assbot: Logged on 21-10-2015 00:56:46; asciilifeform: connects to the box itself with
a thick triax cable
ascii_field: it by itself was
a pretty fast 16bit comp with multiple cpu !
mircea_popescu: aka "any claim as to science or studies done made in english, or by
a libtard, or in support of notions not found in the literature of 1800 is to be dismissed out of hand."
mircea_popescu: "Whenever I see
a reference to
a statement that seems insane to me, two things will be true: 1. It will take me as long to get the study as it did to conduct the study, i.e. 45 minutes. No hyperlink. No free access. Then I have to go into the university's PubMed, which takes me through three windows to Science Direct or some other outlet. Why, oh why, can't I just click "(15)" in the original paper and immediately
☟︎ mircea_popescu: re asciilifeform mpi : the actual extraction, and especially auditing of the rng is
a very worthy project.
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 31-10-2015 16:46:49; asciilifeform: phf: in case this wasn't obvious, i was not speaking of
a ~literal~ return to v6
mircea_popescu: "localization" makes even office fucking management
a nightmare.
assbot: Logged on 31-10-2015 15:43:21; asciilifeform: as
a native of what latinate folks regard as likewise
a 'hieroglyphs' language, i STILL favour the abolition of 'hieroglyphs display on EVERY box'
mircea_popescu: should have taken
a god fearting major like the letters.
mircea_popescu: and i will ritously say this is americanism at its finest. "oh, i like this girl, what need of her fambly ? we'll just live together under
a blanked of sky, alone, like those two kids in the chinese myth!".
mircea_popescu:
a badly defined notion CAN NEVER fit well into
a machine
mircea_popescu: explain this to me. what the fuck is
a "sane notion of text" ?
mircea_popescu: text means
a very specific thing. latin alphabet. nothing else. if you'd rather work with 文本, work with 文本.
mircea_popescu: back then they still hoped china might be just
a sort of magical closet.
assbot: Logged on 31-10-2015 15:09:58; asciilifeform: where do i meet all of these mythical people who own
a computer, use gpg, but do not know enough english to operate it without this garbage ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there is
a huge wall of fire between easily and probably.
mircea_popescu:
a) they know the secret is out, so this candle is burning - gotta use it NOW for maximum impact
assbot: Logged on 31-10-2015 14:21:34; asciilifeform: 'Wikileaks is not offering
a search of Cryptome - the files are hosted on their server as
a honeypot for snatching user data for who knows what. There are subtle sneaky differences that give it away...'
mircea_popescu: actually as frustrating as it is, iirc there was always
a good reason
jurov: can you point me to
a line number? i fail to see it there
phf: jurov: so did i, and i appreciate utf-8 in my music selection or random durp i download from the internet. i wouldn't care if there's some frequent surrogate issue with track file names, but i do care that i can't have
a professional tool where that sort of questions have predictable, if not necessarily easy and fun answers
phf: i personally prefer the lc_ctype=koi8-r solution, but that's because i'm
a retrograde :p
phf: jurov: that's
a question to ascii, as far as "better". my point is that "us-ascii" vs "utf-8" in v/vdiff has greater implications
phf: some hypothetical b-
a os and internal consistency of the whole model. if you say "we support utf-8" here, you're also saying "we support unicode x.y" everywhere
☟︎☟︎ jurov: and such tgins existed before, consider
a="\t" vs b=" "
phf:
a=['e', '´'] vs b=['é'].
a[0] != b[0]
phf: i think the argument against that is that ascii is trying to build
a b-
a system starting with small tools out. if you're claiming to support unicode in your diff, that necessarily means that "done by other tool" is automatically included in the scope of future b-
a work
phf:
a typical solution is then, like you said, ignore 90% of unicode standard, which means that, instead of having
a clean model to work with, you have
a c++ solution of "we support this particular subset of c++, because the other parts we think are braindead"
phf: jurov: variadic anywhere in your string handling machinery means that you no longer have
a meaningful concept of string, i.e. nth printable character is an nth object in array, instead everything that you manipulate is
a stream with
a state machine attached. be that utf-8 at the encoding level, or ucs-4 at the storage level which brings in surrogates and supplementary characters
jurov: that shitgnomes use variadic encoding as
a means to append bloat is not failure of said encoding. they'd find another outlet easily
jurov: you'er basically insisting that anyone who wants to do 8bit stuff in unix should sit themselves on
a stake instead, or resort to ms-dos style wankery
phf: jurov: i'm actually just trying to bridge your position and ascii's since i'm pretty indifferent personally to outcome of the decision. i used to latex by typing funny us-ascii combinations to produce cyrillic metafont renderings, and i also am intimately familiar with what's involved in support "other encoding, nat'l sorting, normalized/unnormalized chars", and it's
a pita.
phf: utf-8 is
a solution if you're ok iwth variadic encoding (though i've read many convincing arguments that utf-8 is new jersey brain dead), but the main issue is that full support of unicode is impossible withtout massive amounts of machinery. and you're going to butt head against the internal storage format and all the varieities of ucs-*, and ~then~ you're going to run into issues of normalization and multiple mappings and such
phf: jurov: problem is that there's no such thing as "any text file".
a text file necessarily has an encoding, and your options are either standardize on an encoding (the way plan9 did it, with going all utf-8) or else carry massive machinery for supporting
a range of encodings from utf-8 to shiftjis
punkman: dunno, I have
a lot of code with unicode strings/comments
mircea_popescu: this was immense - at the time
a peasant who wanted to move, provided he somehow managed, had to fucking drag his entire possessions, on
a rug. no wheels even, because too fucking techy for
a peasant.
mircea_popescu: as
a ready shorthand, remember that in 1400 the entire material production of the entire archipelago was worth about the same as that of one neighbourhood in milan.
mircea_popescu: at the time the paris university was starting the entire university thing, the king of france wouldn't have traded
a middling french province for all of england ; which also he didn't.
punkman: asciilifeform:
a tenured prof is prolly the closest thing that presently exists in the western world to ~titled nobility~ << I don't buy it. Back when tenure was
a thing, they wanted to keep professors around until parts started falling off. Now there's an endless stream of "professors", and gotta hire them so they can say "our PHDs get jobs"
punkman: not really, it has happened
a few time in past decade though
punkman: indeed. on
a sidenote, all the recent instances of looting around here were mobs taking food from supermarkets, not widescreen TVs.
mircea_popescu: i don't get this : not like you can't put encryption on top of
a clear channel
v_diddy: trinque: rly? nigerians commandeering
a freshly-built winxp ship?