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hanbot: mircea_popescu huzzah, ty!
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-12 05:49:34 auctionbot: Sell order # 1063 has ENDED: selling items 1, 2 and 4 through 7 on http://www.loper-os.org/pub/bones/snsa_1_nov_2019.txt ; buyer to take possession at his own expense. SOLD to jfw for 55mn ecu. Attn: mp_en_viaje
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-06 11:47:54 mircea_popescu: so i suppose this is the first actionable we unveil here : ima want an estimate on a) how long to divorce dev server from cs ; and b) how long to move client cs on cuntoo.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: re moving cs I had a look in more detail at the situation there: there are 3k lines of autoconf script to start with; this looks for all sorts and takes care of various cases including differences (re where is what) between linux distros
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-12 07:08:35 mp_en_viaje: what is "his clients" ?
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: re "his clients", they are meant to write up and publish by this Sunday their existing business plan and whatever other related documents they have.
ossabot: (ossasepia) 2019-11-05 diana_coman: but hm, that does sound overall more like your own practice room to know-more-linux than anything else
ossabot: (ossasepia) 2019-11-05 diana_coman: but at any rate, what's that Gales Linux exactly and how/in what way different from Cuntoo? where/what are your problems there?
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: that's the thing, as I told him after my initial talk on this, the trouble is that it seems to be more of a homework exercise than a system to have.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: he just went to sleep, lol
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: from what I talked to jfw so far (he still has to write it up but there's a long list there of write-ups for him to do!), he made his own distribution with his own scripts for package building; he has it in production in that he uses it for his clients afaik but it doesn't seem to scale well the way it is currently
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, tell me about this gales thing ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-12 03:51:20 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-11#1950551 - is this going to diverge then ie there's cuntoo and then there's infectious linux and something else or what? I'm rather confused now as to directions; for that matter and for the forum, there's in principle also jfw's Gales distro if we are at that; I'd rather see the effort focused and coordin
auctionbot: Sell order # 1063 has ENDED: selling items 1, 2 and 4 through 7 on http://www.loper-os.org/pub/bones/snsa_1_nov_2019.txt ; buyer to take possession at his own expense. SOLD to jfw for 55mn ecu. Attn: mp_en_viaje
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-11 20:25:08 trinque: diana_coman: this could mean getting a list of packages you need running on it, if you're willing.
auctionbot: Sell order # 1063: selling items 1, 2 and 4 through 7 on http://www.loper-os.org/pub/bones/snsa_1_nov_2019.txt ; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Heard: 55mn from jfw outbidding asciilifeform. Ending: 2019-11-12 15:43:00.630180 UTC (2 hours 54 mins)
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-11 20:22:50 trinque: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-08#1950231 << since I've got the botwork already in flight on my end, what do you say you and lobbes tackle making cuntoo into a usable item for mp_en_viaje and diana_coman ?
auctionbot: Sell order # 1063: selling items 1, 2 and 4 through 7 on http://www.loper-os.org/pub/bones/snsa_1_nov_2019.txt ; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Heard: 45mn from asciilifeform outbidding diana_coman. Ending: 2019-11-12 15:43:00.630180 UTC (6 hours 6 mins)
trinque: diana_coman: this could mean getting a list of packages you need running on it, if you're willing.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-11-10 08:30:28 diana_coman: they had a few words in #trinque; I've sent lobbes to ask if he can help with cuntoo perhaps too.
trinque: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-08#1950231 << since I've got the botwork already in flight on my end, what do you say you and lobbes tackle making cuntoo into a usable item for mp_en_viaje and diana_coman ?
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: Its only incidental when the dork's agency is correctly discounted. Per their brainbox churnings, the cases I have seen are almost always intentional: "I want to spray my tree to kill bagworms" "Here is the Sevin, let me walk you to the safety glasses and respirators" Cartman: "Fuck you, It's my hot body! I do what I want"
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: Reading the penal code really helped to make a lot more sense of many of the lulzier local news items for this reason. There's so many edges shit gets caught on that in the US would almost certainly result in some sorta plea, consent order, diversion programs, etc that instead have to go through the motions and fail.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-10 04:36:49 mp_en_viaje: suppose we follow some kinda procedure here, there's first a leader, who commits to the damned project, and so on.
auctionbot: Sell order # 1072: Lot of 18 FUCKGOATS in anti-static bags; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Heard: 50mn from jurov outbidding diana_coman. Ending: 2019-11-15 21:39:57.226390 UTC (102 hours 29 mins)
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-10 17:48:49 bvt: diana_coman: ok, this should be it http://bvt-trace.net/tree-vtools/
lobbes: or to be more exact, I believe I've ruled out 'xmlrpc.php' being the culprit. Rather, the breakage happens once the values in the $commentdata array are shipped off to the "wp_new_comment()" function in "wp-includes/comment.php" (which then makes a call to 'apply_filters()')
ericbot: Logged on 2019-11-04 14:46:15 mp_en_viaje: if you were to give it a looksee that'd be most helpful.
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-11-04#1949410 << in updates on this front: I have traced the breakage to somewhere in the "wp-includes/plugin.php". It looks like it is the "apply_filters" function that may be mangling the url. More digging to commence tomorrow
mod6: <+mp_en_viaje> yeah, what ever became of that guy ? << I haven't heard from him in quite a long time.
mod6: <+diana_coman> mod6: where's that wyatt youngster, maybe point him to #o or #t-hanbot? << ok will do for sure.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-10 17:29:49 mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, this whole nativist "third way" socialism is pretty fucking offensive. what, everyone's tito now ?
hanbot: mp_en_viaje lol pea-tree! of course by now "acacia" just connotes the extra-scary spike-spined horrors from backwoods costa rica.
bvt: diana_coman: ok, this should be it http://bvt-trace.net/tree-vtools/
mp_en_viaje: o btw hanbot : http://trilema.com/2012/pentru-echipa-si-alte-abureli/#footnote_0_37518 !!!
hanbot: mp_en_viaje steps for dealing with customs like mp_en_viaje: 1. be mp_en_viaje; 2. ???
bvt: diana_coman: i never signed all of the vtools vpatches. the only patches with my signatures are that of http://bvt-trace.net/2018/10/vpatch-replacing-mktemp3-take-two/ http://bvt-trace.net/2019/07/vdiff-vpatch-blockwise-keccaking/ http://bvt-trace.net/2019/08/vpatch-support-for-files-in-vtree-root/; the eta for a full tree can be this wednesday.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-11-10 08:30:28 diana_coman: they had a few words in #trinque; I've sent lobbes to ask if he can help with cuntoo perhaps too.
hanbot: mp_en_viaje what do i need to do for a license for #trilema-hanbot?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-10 04:43:05 mp_en_viaje: so no, 2k in 1920 very much isn't 100k in 2011 prices. it's AT LEAST A MILLION ; and "2011 prices" is purely an academic point anyway, because the sort of thing one could trivially buy in 1920 ~DOES NOT EXIST~, and therefore can't be bought for any amount of these 2020 "money" that very well fucking aren't either money or anything remotely like it.
ossabot: Logged on 2017-12-14 13:45:07 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-14#1751463 << it does exactly one fucking job. this one : diana_coman please don't talk to asciilifeform or take any further advice from him. total timewaste.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-30 07:17:27 mp_en_viaje: do you remember that instance i actually forbade your talking to alf ?
hanbot: diana_coman oh i see, it's code for not-really-a-house
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: well, that urbanity doesn't exist anywhere currently, sure.
hanbot: mp_en_viaje that sounds like a great place, this town, let's go.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, i do not believe the nicer houses theory. if there's a 3 level dozen+ bedroom house anywhere, it's going to be ensconced in fifty hides' land, not on a town street.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, i picked it because it happened to be recorded.
hanbot: diana_coman wtf does terraced even mean, as in it has one? or it's been built on a hill and spreads itself like rice paddies?! lol
hanbot: mp_en_viaje i kinda suspect bad writing in your excerpt..."he" borrowed 2k and bought, dun mean the thing bought was capped at 2k, who borrows the ENTIRE amount they need for purchasing real estate?!
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-10 04:42:57 mp_en_viaje: now how the fuck is 20k 1920s pounds "equivalent to 100k in 2011 prices", considering that in 2011 you can not even buy, FOR ANY AMOUNT OF MONEY, that 18 bedroom house there ; all that's available is this "7 bedroom" eyesore, for over half a million pounds.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-10 04:36:49 mp_en_viaje: suppose we follow some kinda procedure here, there's first a leader, who commits to the damned project, and so on.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-10 04:26:20 mp_en_viaje: so did http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-06#1950066 simply decay into the game of awkwardly waiting for each other ?
mp_en_viaje: now how the fuck is 20k 1920s pounds "equivalent to 100k in 2011 prices", considering that in 2011 you can not even buy, FOR ANY AMOUNT OF MONEY, that 18 bedroom house there ; all that's available is this "7 bedroom" eyesore, for over half a million pounds.
mp_en_viaje: this thing.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-06 23:32:29 mircea_popescu: trinque, suppose spyked's game, and what you have to do is run the two fellows + whatever we can meaningfully accrete through the tmsr-ization of cuntoo.
auctionbot: Sell order # 1072: Lot of 18 FUCKGOATS in anti-static bags; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Heard: 11mn from diana_coman outbidding jurov. Ending: 2019-11-15 21:39:57.226390 UTC (140 hours 33 mins)
auctionbot: Sell order # 1064: Selling the server formerly known as UY1 no FUCKGOATS, no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Heard: 1mn from diana_coman. Ending: 2019-11-15 21:37:54.887600 UTC (140 hours 33 mins)
mircea_popescu: and in other diana_coman lulz, asciilifeform now thinks somebody wants to "convert" him. hey you! you didn't fucking leave, ~you got kicked out~. for being a moron. part and parcel of the very substance of that being a moron is your utterly ridiculous relationship to reality. stop tryina fucking retcon the past into something more amenable to your howling idiocy.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-06 12:40:32 mircea_popescu: an' that leaves of the human hands ave1 an' mocky thoroughly unaccounted for.
bvt: diana_coman: setting up a mirror with everything is still in TODO for me.
diana_coman: my frozen snapshot in the starter_v is a press only up to vtools_ksum and I think it's time for an updated version really
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-08 06:39:24 mircea_popescu: lol dorion, nice pile of lulz you got there. diana_coman has the details, but in very general : gotta take it easier, man. it's just... it's the internet, you know ?
BingoBoingo: In a local fuss from earlier this week, derps commissioned some of the murals of the sort they commision here, all of the associated commentary was... "Next week they'll just cover it with either hammers and sickles or their damned graphs"
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It's always a nice feeling to bog down a computer with your own history.
mircea_popescu: lol dorion, nice pile of lulz you got there. diana_coman has the details, but in very general : gotta take it easier, man. it's just... it's the internet, you know ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-07 07:29:35 mircea_popescu: because i'm thinking... i should probably just import all antique logs, have them in one place finally.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-06 22:32:10 mircea_popescu: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-06#1949990 << the thing here is, minigame will need to use a os. this means a very simple binary choice : either it uses something made by us, or not. the criteria for the former is that someone's in charge ; the criteria for the latter is that it's convenient.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-06 12:23:06 diana_coman: takes a note to mirror spyked's sigs too
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-21 06:15:42 mp_en_viaje: the second, which is the hanging matter, is that i meanwhile specced a new functioning of ratings and voicing, the to-spec execution of which being the very bedrock upon which deedbot payments even work. come april or whatever, i'm not about to do the old style lordship ratings,
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-06 12:37:54 mircea_popescu: gawd, spyked, two months of irc bots till the end of the year ? srsly ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-07 22:53:05 mircea_popescu: couldja patch this in ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-07 22:50:54 mircea_popescu: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-07#1950200 << i guess i'm just going to write a converter ; which begs the question, how are we to sync our log histories here ?
ericbot: Logged on 2019-11-08 02:45:51 mircea_popescu: i guess i didn't make myself very clear. the ~displayer~, python-based as opposed to apache based, has no future.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-11-07 11:26:57 mircea_popescu: lobbes, an unexpected point occurs. do you have a chatlog eater tool ?
ericbot: Logged on 2019-11-07 10:03:46 mircea_popescu: i don't foresee any future for the current python-powered item.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-11-07 09:55:07 mircea_popescu: lobbes, the only problem is that e= is unpopulated. i'm currently using
ericbot: Logged on 2019-11-07 11:26:57 mircea_popescu: lobbes, an unexpected point occurs. do you have a chatlog eater tool ?
ericbot: Logged on 2019-11-07 10:03:46 mircea_popescu: i don't foresee any future for the current python-powered item.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-11-07 09:55:07 mircea_popescu: lobbes, the only problem is that e= is unpopulated. i'm currently using
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-06 12:43:55 hanbot: mircea_popescu i browse, but haven't strictly "kept up". i can spend a day or two getting there tho', what's up?
hanbot: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-06#1949944 < this is gonna take me an extra 24-48h; the reading's worthwhile and denser than i imagined. after which i'll publish my accumulating notes. 'til then, diana_coman graciously plonked her logger in #trilema-hanbot, and all are welcome.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: At least for the first half of 2019 their very flat wages normalized into dollars were above much of eastern Europe. 20,000 pesos was 600 USD to 700 USD versus the holy European 500 USD
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in poilu france, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/41/Adolphe_Willette_-_Madeleine%2C_Monologue_et_9_dessins.jpg/800px-Adolphe_Willette_-_Madeleine%2C_Monologue_et_9_dessins.jpg
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Not me
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, well, vieux montmartre, not the current sadness.
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: ty, will see if error.log reveals anything at a glance
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, nah, i'm with you, forget about it. ima go take a shit
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: sigh; you'd be surprised perhaps but I doubt it's worth the time to describe in much more detail.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, what fucking ideals ever demand the breakage of a unusable cvasi-blog ?
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: that's precisely it, the "who or if uses" does not even enter into consideration there; it's built "because it should be so according to the ideals"
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, what's so idealistic about shit nobody uses because it stinks ? i dun get it.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 01:58:11 asciilifeform: can persuade mp_en_viaje to xor ?
ossabot: (ossasepia) 2019-09-10 diana_coman: structure of thought first and foremost; and note that idealism is precisely the inability to see (notice+comprehend) much of the fabric of reality.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: re-reading the discussion yesterday it occured to me that the loggers & irc weren't mentioned at all
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: sounds good.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: we will also need some lightweight place to set up the website
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: I'm happy with home-hosted dev.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: review as in finally being able to actually benchmark the server and get some concrete idea as to what it needs ; as a result it might be a new machine, yes.
mircea_popescu: $select_tail = "?b=".substr(strip_tags($excerpt),0,12)."&e=".substr(strip_tags($excerpt),0,4)."#select";
ossabot: Logged on 2018-02-05 20:57:25 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo phf trinque diana_coman so i'm thinking of basically getting a dozen amd fx-8350s (because just 125w compared to say fx-9590s 220) racked in u2 mbs (say maybe ASRock 970M PRO3 ? i thinkl that fits in 2u neh ?) with 64 gb ram each and a coupla ssds ? any complaints/suggestions ?