log☇︎
130400+ entries in 1.019s
jurov: then i can irl negrate people
assbot: Logged on 31-05-2015 22:36:03; jurov: I personally got only an offer to share a rack with 4x100MBit(can be upgraded to giga) and 4xIPv4 for 500 euro/mo
phf: mircea_popescu: i've come to appreciate the approach from observing it. one person who shapes the entire thing, and everyone else works with the given directions or else operates fully autonomously. people can still form subgroups for short term goals, but without imposing structure on the rest. etc. etc.
assbot: Logged on 05-08-2015 14:26:47; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i once thought about placing antecedent hashes in patch headers
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=05-08-2015#1225685 << where, i think, 'v' begins ☝︎
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: i did most of a linguistics degree, can do certain things
mike_c: perhaps I see it too simply. It is the way for me to get source code from people I designate as trusted.
jurov: here i would be able to manage the hardware with my own hands
mircea_popescu: mike_c incidentally the reason i won't recite a todo list for v (and deleted alf's proposed list) is specifically because we don't even understand yet fully its implication. bitcoin-like.
jurov: just to remind, i had an offer from my wot for colo but must take whole half of cage for ~3 coins/mo
mike_c: I for instance have worked things to 75% completion before locking to avoid stalling something.
mircea_popescu: and i think it's the only way to go.
phf: mike_c: there's a recent openbsd presentation that argues against claiming. their point is that the problem of duplicate effort is a lot rarer then lock grabs. and i must add duplicate effort always results in increased understanding if both solutions are analyzed
mats: i am curious to know when 'yi yi zhi yi' progresses to 'yi fa yi yi
ascii_field: i dare say this may be an example of the kind of thing one doesn't actually need unless already in a state of dire sin
mike_c: I will, but scattered todo lists in various places, feels like it needs a little project management.
trinque: I could see V being applied to this problem too
mircea_popescu: i've been having my eye on this yeah
mike_c: you know, ascii says 'someone should add file history to V' and I think, yeah, that is much needed and I could bang it out quickly
ascii_field: i recall this from conf2 ?
mike_c: i don't care a whit for it specifically, more for some kind of issue tracking generally.
mike_c: hm. I was thinking for issue tracking.
mircea_popescu: i'll tell you what it looks like : FUCKING COINBASE.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: no but reality means that if i have to spend two weeks appearing in a courtroom, for whatever reason, i starve.
ascii_field: consider that i actually operate an llc (with partner) since '10, and not speaking entirely from my arse
ascii_field: where i live, at my weight class.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: if i did not put my income through it, then it is a plain tax shelter and this lasts precisely five seconds if anyone so much as farts on it
ascii_field: i'm talking about the rest of it
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-09-2015#1258630 << thing is, there ~is~ upfront cost, and from where exactly am i to come up with it ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 01-09-2015 17:38:44; jurov: ANN: coinbr had to be shut down and will likely stay for several days till i fix the mess.
mircea_popescu: but if the whorbassadors i ncongo agree the age should be 18, then hey, DEMOCRACY!!11
shinohai: https://i.imgur.com/EDKCLyy.jpg
trinque: mmyeah I knew what this site was gonna look like.
trinque: I am already offended by this site's loading screen
mircea_popescu: i'm not about to go all crazy here and suggest you actually hire an expert, you've not been buying bitcoin for long enough yet.
mircea_popescu: i dun get it.
trinque: I hear Christian "missionaries" do very well in Africa
ascii_field: must confess that i have not.
punkman: unfortunately, I don't yet own a datacenter in the Congo
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: i did think about this, earlier; principal obstacle is the provision of adequate cooling in my sorry hovel. but in the absence of a better idea, will have to resort to this
mircea_popescu: well i never!
jurov: ANN: coinbr had to be shut down and will likely stay for several days till i fix the mess. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: it'll be cheaper than paying a coin a month for 10 months i'm sure, and we also get the added advantage that we put all the eggs in your basket
mircea_popescu: how about you pick out a system, i buy it, and then you run nsa from home.
mircea_popescu: i won't even discuss it for less than 3 years.
ascii_field: BingoBoingo: i'd settle for a welded 1u with internal 12v battery
mircea_popescu: ascii_field i think you should apologize before making fool of self kthx.
ascii_field: i think this clinches it
mircea_popescu: i prefer the more broad "unretarded"
ascii_field: i would dare to suggest that the subcontract should include a stipulation that >1 unsanctioned reset per year == termination
mircea_popescu: yeah i dun see a problem paying 1-1.5 for this. provided the box is decent and the dc unretarded, i'd take it.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: i am ready to move it. but can't think of, yet, a good place to move it ~to~
mircea_popescu: ascii_field well, sent note pointing out that if it happens again that's it for that box. i'm not so convinced it'll do anything. consequently... prep to move it, i guess. got any suggestions of location ?
ascii_field: i can't help but wonder if someone is getting a red star pinned on his uniform in moscow, for having planted this bug ☟︎
punkman: "I work for Xerox and I had to hear this from outside sources like this one. "
punkman: from the comments: "Have there been any lawsuits by companies against Xerox for damages caused by Xerox machines substituting characters in various financial reports or other types of reports. I'm having difficulty getting people to believe your report. "
punkman: ascii_field: I remember reading about it in 2013, stumbled upon it today. nothing inbetween
ascii_field: yes, i would ~like~ a gcc library; (and a gpg library.) but i understand the authors' logic re: how this could easily and catastrophically help the enemy
phf: i like the href name
phf: https://www.gnupg.org/faq/gnupg-faq.html#keep_dreaming 8.21 I’m a programmer and I need a way to call GnuPG internals directly. Is there a library for this? No, nor will there be.
trinque: but I do also see a benefit in barriers to poetterings
trinque: I said that too.
assbot: Logged on 01-09-2015 16:05:28; trinque: yup, in the case with gcc, I think the idea was that there'd be a barrier to understanding it if it were monolithic
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-09-2015#1258445 << i do not know. but partly for the same reason as gcc, likely. ☝︎
phf: <ben_vulpes> asciilifeform has referred to rms doing this with i believe a compiler as well, and i would hear the story << https://lwn.net/Articles/629259/
trinque: yup, in the case with gcc, I think the idea was that there'd be a barrier to understanding it if it were monolithic ☟︎
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform has referred to rms doing this with i believe a compiler as well, and i would hear the story. 'cawsmic rayz and shitgnome bitrot' isn't the kind of story to scare children into losing sleep over.
ben_vulpes: i'm asking specifically about the conspiracy, mats.
trinque: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=01-09-2015#1257911 << strikes me how well mass-surveillance fits with American narcissism. Look ma, I'm on reality TV! ☝︎
trinque: aw what happened to that "RALLY!" I heard so much about only days ago?
pete_dushenski: Hmm I'm still seeing "Status : Internal error" on the mpex receipts
punkman: pete_dushenski: it was working earlier when I looked, I think
assbot: Logged on 28-06-2015 04:49:55; asciilifeform: decimation: i don't think that a mathematically-rigorous description of openssl (not to even mention boost and bdb) could be achieved in 10,000 years of sweat
assbot: Logged on 29-08-2015 12:16:01; mats: http://www.gliderzz.com I have been seeing these around a lot lately
shinohai: punkman: This I assume? http://www.amazon.com/The-Three-Body-Problem-Cixin-Liu/dp/0765377063
punkman: I put "The Three-Body Problem" on my list recently, seems like it got a Hugo award in the meantime
shinohai: I'm not certain someone like that can be truly described as "human".
cazalla: adlai, ah don't thank me, i was drunk
shinohai: https://i.imgur.com/q7m31TM.jpg
shinohai: https://i.imgur.com/AYCbrqP.jpg <<<tequila
BingoBoingo: Well, If I know the FBI/Treasury/WTFObolaBBQ is watching why would I even create an opportunity to be framed as a person looking to participate in drug commerce?
BingoBoingo: shinohai: Why would I ever participate in discussions there. http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/08/25/a-law-enforcement-encounter-if-you-ran-a-bitcoin-related-service-before-the-thing-hit-100-you-prolly-ought-to-be-somewhat-concerned-andor-prepared/
shinohai: ;;later tell trinque despite me being the most "Special Ed" of anyone here, persistence paid off: http://i.imgur.com/3xAoZTN.png?1
BingoBoingo: Neither do I, but they are so easy to troll
punkman: BingoBoingo: I dunno why anyone humors the license derps
assbot: Logged on 31-08-2015 20:55:11; ascii_field: http://i.imgur.com/ibUaHil.gifv << sapping practice.
fluffypony: I just fixed it to use gettimeofday instead of ftime on BSD
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> 'v' is a double-edged sword, however, i must say, in that it makes it possible to build therealbitcoin without reading patches or giving a fuck << blind trust is only a problem to the blind trustor.
phf: which wouldn't be a problem in a traditional c code, but in case of gnupg half of the code seems to have hidden, side channel concerns, that i just don't have yet enough experience in practical crypto to grok
phf: sure, but i did some large scale projects using ffi (including things like modifying arrays on heap from inside c libraries), so i don't think it's necessarily dead end. just that gnupg doesn't make it easy at all and requires basically full environment scaffolding before you can do anything useful
mod6: fair assesment there. but, i think it's great, and clean, and "works". responsibility is on the signer to read what they sign. same in life.
phf: i spent some time going through exercise of getting rid of main in gnupg 1.*, compiling it into a dynamic library, loading into a lisp and calling c functions through ffi. it's doable, but yeah environment very hostile to librarification: often times reporting is done only as a printf, with no status codes, so impossible to do simple (= (ffi-call...) 0) without unpacking the c level function
asciilifeform: 'v' is a double-edged sword, however, i must say, in that it makes it possible to build therealbitcoin without reading patches or giving a fuck
mod6: <+asciilifeform> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-08-2015#1250164 << thread << thx. ya, i recall this. long road ahead haha. ☝︎
mod6: i guess i don't mean to confuse.. was just thinking about it in the capacity where a stripped down box is being used.
mod6: i know.
mod6: i saw punkman say something about dropping in a python-gnupg side-by-side with V -- i've gotta try that yet. might be cool for an airgap box or something.
mod6: but yeah, i just `mkdir -p ~/.seals ~/.wot` and dropped the sigs into ~/.seals and the pub keys in ~/.wot and off it went.
asciilifeform: i think this is literally all.
mod6: sure. i was able to figure that out straight off np. helped by having a few bundled up in v99/wot/