asciilifeform: when idiocy ray is turned off, people tend to go back to some approximation of sanity.
asciilifeform: well as per start of this subthread, nobody needs the ad, they just need the psychotronic weapon that makes them spread for idiots, removed.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what scarce resource would it exhaust in ar to have working clubs ? molybdenum ?
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: sorta like 'rich' people in, e.g., ukraine.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: it will be fascinating to watch the gymnastics of chinese shills answerable to 'no one' on official paper, but to handlers in actual flesh, doing their 'independent' thing.
asciilifeform: well sorta like how a fire forces being black, dead, sooty, and smelling of cooked meat.
asciilifeform: because if not, answer is a fat and obvious 0.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: did the 'bbet payouts halted after shitfinex incident' thing resolve, btw ?
asciilifeform: '... Who can remove his outer coat? Who can approach him with a double bridle? Who can open the doors of his face, With his terrible teeth all around? His rows of scales are his pride, Shut up tightly as with a seal; One is so near another That no air can come between them; They are joined one to another, They stick together and cannot be parted.' << dune sandworm!
asciilifeform: 'Can you draw out Leviathan[a] with a hook, Or snare his tongue with a line which you lower? Can you put a reed through his nose, Or pierce his jaw with a hook? Will he make many supplications to you? Will he speak softly to you? Will he make a covenant with you? Will you take him as a servant forever? Will you play with him as with a bird, Or will you leash him for your maidens? Will your companions make a banquet of him? Will they
asciilifeform: this may be subjective thing wholly. maybe trinque can learn to like living in anthill, without cheese or chix with visible tits. i have nfi.
asciilifeform: but i will say that there ~is~, to me.
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu were awake, he might say sumthinglike 'nothing human is foreign to me', etc.
asciilifeform: understand, if elephant is being devoured by ants, it does not necessarily follow that anthill is a 'great place to live' for elephant - or lion, or the other animals watching.
asciilifeform: see mega-thread with mircea_popescu and china.
asciilifeform: and dun expect things such as cheese, or trees, or being considered for work outside yer clan wot
asciilifeform: i was recently reading about 'oilite', a type of self-lubricating bronze, that is still made in usa. the factory where it was originally produced, owned by chrysler corp., lived in the '30s. today it is a ruin, rats live in it. oilite is still made, in usa, but for how long - i have nfi, at some point it will become difficult to find people who will follow the ritual (yes, to savages, industry is ritual) and it will sail off to china☟︎
asciilifeform: there was a... nearly incomprehensibly titanic 'battery charge' of ingenuity, sanity, and plain simple 'ant' (vs 'grasshopper') accumulated delayed gratification, that is now being maggoted through.
