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midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: Your -pr girl wasn't the only one calling pirate a scam. There were lots of other people. On the other hand, there's still no hard evidence that anyone has seen that it is. Not yet. The only thing going for the notion is time, but there are alternative explanations.
OneEyed: mircea_popescu: I hadn't read the whole thread, I just read your new local rules indeed :)
OneEyed: mircea_popescu: don't act as if you were *the* messiah announcing what's true and what's not :)
OneEyed: mircea_popescu: is it really the case?
OneEyed: mircea_popescu: if you refer to claims made outside of the contract, I have to agree with you, however, if you stick to the contract, I don't see he defrauded people.
OneEyed: mircea_popescu: I would use the same terms as Goat contract, but replace PPS 1MH/s by "average air temperature at 6:00 minus 20 degrees"
OneEyed: mircea_popescu: if I sell you a "temperature bond" whose dividends are indexed on what the average temperature is at 6:00 in Paris every day, would it be a fraud not to invest into hot air?
OneEyed: mircea_popescu: yes, I understand. But even knowing he doesn't own some, as long as the investors get exactly what they paid for, i.e. coupons indexed on PPS 1MH/s, I don't see as a violation of the contract itself. But I won't redo the discussion here :)
OneEyed: mircea_popescu: you belong to those thinking he has to own mining rigs to offer such a contract whose coupons are based on a fixed mining performance?
rg: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57524109-38/justice-dept-to-defend-warrantless-cell-phone-tracking/
rdponticelli: mircea_popescu: yes, they do
rdponticelli: mircea_popescu: sort of
dub: but mircea_popescu is right, im an exfag
novusordo: mircea_popescu: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Newfag
dub: Smoovious: laywers would argue that by doing anything with the list goat is admitting _some_ liability for it
rdponticelli_: mircea_popescu: Have you thought about listing ASICMINER on mpex?
Diablo-D3: \m/ o_o \m/
Diablo-D3: \m/ -_- \m/
Diablo-D3: \m/ o_o \m/
mircea_popescu: http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb77t0ygoF1qfrvjzo1_500.png this is kinda win
mircea_popescu: lol http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/10sxic/til_the_biggest_nerd_i_know_had_never_heard_of/ sgornick wins
Diablo-D3: http://csrc.nist.gov/groups/ST/hash/sha-3/winner_sha-3.html
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: sssh
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: yeah pretty much
Diablo-D3: and people say I suck at math >_>
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: I calculated it as >800
Diablo-D3: [05:12:50] <mircea_popescu> iirc mostly obsi and usagi
markac: mircea_popescu: http://financial-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Specialist
guruvan: mircea_popescu: I've certainly seen money mangers get squeezed in the big markets....not often, but big when it happens
guruvan: ya know mircea_popescu I'm surprised no one's tried a big short squeeze when they know someone has a big short
femtotube: mircea_popescu: and how many CO's are listed in NYSE and NASDAQ?
femtotube: mircea_popescu: correct and that what i was trying to tell you
femtotube: mircea_popescu: but the flying D is inevstinf to different GLBSE issues. So, if there is nothing left to invest, who will they be worth anything?
OneEyed: mircea_popescu: yeah, my computations were totally out
OneEyed: mircea_popescu: ok, so they could get away with 3 days maybe, so 1/10th of the monthly bets, or 1/5th of the average profit. Might be enough as a scam though.
OneEyed: mircea_popescu: it depends, dodn't forget that if SatoshiDice were to stop paying people, word will spread very rapidly, since they use 0 confirmations payout is immediate
femtotube: mircea_popescu: are they making 4.2 USD that way?
femtotube: "mircea_popescu | femtotube just for my curiosity..." I agree, that stealing and walking away not to long after successful IPO are similar acts but they are not really the same.
OneEyed: mircea_popescu: time is a factor. Concerning whether I can code or not, Ohloh can tell you
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: yeah
OneEyed: mircea_popescu: (you can only prove that you bought a share, but that doesn't show that you haven't sold it)
OneEyed: mircea_popescu: more or less - you can still not prove ownership of a share to the asset owner, can you?
BTC-Mining: @mircea_popescu yes
OneEyed: mircea_popescu: how would you handle a situation where Patrick would delay the payback of the principal obtained from MPCD?
OneEyed: mircea_popescu: I don't know, it was a question on my side :)
pigeons: if mircea_popescu was really making money off porn, he would list it on glbse, so i know he's lying
OneEyed: mircea_popescu: does it require a lot of maintenance or does it run mostly by itself? (I would guess the second)
OneEyed: mircea_popescu: how do you make out of MPEX? :)
OneEyed: mircea_popescu: that may be relatively shitty according to some criteria, but for something that requires no maintenance, that's great
OneEyed: mircea_popescu: wow, I guess the girl hit a nerve then
imsaguy2: mircea_popescu sells porn?
OneEyed: imsaguy2: mircea_popescu
OneEyed: Oh, I thought the porn on mircea_popescu site was free for all :)
OneEyed: mircea_popescu: did you do anything to him? I don't understand why he goes after MPEX every time he can. Do you owe him money or what?
OneEyed: What happened to ciuciu recently? He seemed to be a nice guy, had pretty interesting deals, but now looks like he shorted a fuse over mircea_popescu and the porn pictures
OneEyed: mircea_popescu: because since July I've tried to convince myself of the usefulness of bitcoins, and I'm still not much convinced. I've seen almost no use except for trading.
OneEyed: mircea_popescu: come on, we're talking about GLBSE, there is no way to make big bucks with such low liquidity, you know it :)
OneEyed: mircea_popescu: over what I bought; 100 * 0.03 * 1.005 + 2 * 0.02 = 3.055
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: nope, technically I shouldnt even talk about it
kakobrekla: mircea_popescu, yes, two dark worlds colliding
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: hes selling his wife?
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: yeah, its just btcmc, btc-mining, and asicminer
guruvan: agreed mircea_popescu - that would be the absolute best thing for DMC
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: currently? no one.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: and I dont trust you.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: well the mhash bond problem is this
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: depends on the price
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: well, I bought half the DMC shares back
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: yeah well, nefario fucked us all then
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: or hes just an asshat
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: well no
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: vim would have caught it ;)
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: er right
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: well, Ive written shit like this, its trivial, but sometimes fucktards do fucktarded things
Diablo-D3: I wonder if glbse _doesnt_ keep a list of tx forever
BTC-Mining: I'd guess but... ask mircea_popescu
PsychoticBoy: <usagi> LIke we have 210 shares of ABM. That's 21% of the company o_o << your my bigest share holdert
Diablo-D3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HmBByDQHJAA
MrTiggr: mircea_popescu: that is based off the "unconfirmed transactions" feed ... every dot is a btc address .. the lines are coins moving between them ... the line color is the same for coins moved in the same transaction
Diablo-D3: <mircea_popescu> I'd whack her against the wall if you know what I mean
smickles: mircea_popescu: have you come across thos 'hysterical literature' videos on youtube?
smickles: mircea_popescu: smpake does glbse now?
smickles: mircea_popescu: i'm actually about to do something about that
smickles: < mircea_popescu> smickles why do you keep spelling principal "principle" ? << becuase i am flawd ;) um, tell me this is just in irc, and not in some signed document I produce
gribble: Trust relationship from user usagi to user mircea_popescu: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 10 via 5 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=usagi&dest=mircea_popescu
gribble: Trust relationship from user rg to user mircea_popescu: Level 1: 3, Level 2: 39 via 22 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=rg&dest=mircea_popescu
rg: ;;gettrust mircea_popescu
gribble: Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user OneEyed: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=mircea_popescu&dest=OneEyed
OneEyed: mircea_popescu: don't underestimate the problem: they are fighting over a whole 4 BTC!
OneEyed: mircea_popescu: yes, the sooner you bet, the more your bet weights
OneEyed: mircea_popescu: the total amount paid by betters is redistributed to winners, minus 5% fee for the site and 5% for the creator of the bet if I remember well
rg: i guess i should probably stop bdk_kludges vps
OneEyed: mircea_popescu: fortunately, as in every bets, the amount paid by the winners is redistributed as well :)
rg: mircea_popescu: its kinda expensive to get the cable co to run a 20mi coax through a body of water
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu fails at roman names.
nenolod: mircea_popescu: but that involves currency exchanges
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: he has that sitting like 5 feet from him
nenolod: mircea_popescu: been there, done that
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: that'll take awhile
Diablo-D3: thats a tough call >_>