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mircea_popescu: chonkin, why is violent crime a big deal in the first place ? shakespeare's venice is all about young doods stabbing each other, so what of it.

BingoBoingo: chonkin: I suspect it isn't as strong of a regional thing in the US as the media folks push with the red/blue state stuff. Lots of bipeds in the US are literate in exactly the same way 98% of Uruguayos are literate.

chonkin: Angela Merkel stood at a podium, with TV cameras pointed at her and said that "Multi-culturalism has failed." And she was not happy about this like a bigoted neo-nazi. She meant it as a portent. "We really wanted it to succeed , but after 40 years it is failling"

mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, a right

chonkin: mircea_popescu The award winning molecular biologist that discovered the structure of DNA (Francis Crick?) made some statements in public about African populations that got him called a "senile old racist coot"

mircea_popescu: chonkin, i used "racist" above to denote any theory that proposes there can be a fenotype-based partition on human population.

mircea_popescu: what's "compleltely founded" ? a workable notion of number for eg, is early 1900s. most math could be said to only have a fundamental existence in the past century.

mircea_popescu: sounds like a run of the mill libertard venue.

mircea_popescu: chonkin, as a factual matter, it's unlikely any live human being had a majority of ancestors who were not slaves at some point in their life. now, most of this is undocumented, but slavery is about as fundamental as eating.

chonkin: Certain theories make predictions and this is a matter of whether those predictions match what is measured or do not match them.

mircea_popescu: you can see this fundamental behaviour among children. nothing is easier than for a group of pubescent boys/girls to agree "girls/boys are retarded / not worth bothering with". then one with nice tits, or a fellatio inclination, or whatever, an impressive hairdo or a skateboard shows up, and suddenly there's an exception. before you know it, within the decade everyone's married and their pubescent kids agree on the agreeme

mircea_popescu: ie, racist arguments do not generally fail at the core, they generally fail at the skirts. you can always get broad agreement on "oh, blacks are tards". that never was problematic, it's a fundamental portion of human behaviour. the problems begin when you'\re asked to establish the limits / produce a "yes/no" answerer to "is this person black" format questions.

chonkin: With australia having the greatest disparity. Indigenous aboriginals make up P = 7.9% with a staggering incareration rate Ir = 89%

chonkin: Indigenous populations make up a minority percent of the popuulation P < 20% and their incarceration rates fall somewhere between 80% < Ir < 90%

chonkin: A common statistical pattern is repeated.

chonkin: So a few minutes ago I laid some statistics about population incarceration rates in a number of different nations.

mircea_popescu: who yo callin a tard ? huh ? HUH!!!

mircea_popescu: speaking of federation and stuff : hey spyked phf ben_vulpes : how much trouble would it be to log every channel in every network over 50 users ? item shouldn't be publicly exposed, but as a fullsearch query (say limited from l1). something like !Xircs "naked sluts" nin?s returning all the lines matching, in a paste encrypted to caller. ☟︎

billymg: i just took a closer look at the files on btcbase.org though and noticed that phf grabbed the old copies from my blog

mircea_popescu: hanbot, the file is correct. the expected hash (3e43*) matches the keccak hash of that file ; the actual hash (05f5*) matches the sha hash of that file. you are for some reason using a sha v for this ?

hanbot: basically it looks like the one file got mangled (possibly via bad upload/download). can anyone else confirm whether either a) they can actually press the god damned thing or b) they have/have not the mangled file ?

hanbot: 6. what's incomparably worse : | tr '\n' '\r' will transform the file as it correctly stands into a file that matches the "expected" hash.

hanbot: 2. the file itself is found on my very hard drive, untouched since i made this thing last year. a ~new~ genesis, which i just made, on the basis of those exact original files, displays the same exact problem.

hanbot: 1. if i try to press the current head of mp-wp (ie, including the patches, either as reconstructed from our blogs or as maintained on btcbase), it dies with a hash mismatch

a111: Logged on 2019-02-03 17:20 mircea_popescu: hanbot pick a laptop, bake the man's cuntoo. (principal issue, that gentoo->cuntoo "bridge", see if his sig matches).

mircea_popescu: in other news, ima close http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-03#1892053 early feb project in failure, given that http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-20#1903539 seems a dead end and i got pressing matters to apply her to.. ☝︎☝︎

mircea_popescu: meanwhile in top keks from the mid 1800s, "Mr. Seward is exerting himself to provoke a quarrel with all Europe, in that spirit of senseless egotism which induces the Americans, with their dwarf fleet and shapeless mass of incoherent squads which they call an army, to fancy themselves the equal of France by land and Great Britain by sea."

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the 'tailhook' people, pre-clintonization, had a proverb, where iirc 'what you dun know, will not only happily kill you , but eat you for lunch and spit out the bones'

asciilifeform: ipnoje per se is a '06+ item

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'ma guess it folded the day lolmart realized it , too, could stock a chinese soldering iron

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Displayed those yes, but the town has a Walmart. Survived on being the shop with the things it had in the place it was. Death of the parent killed it.

asciilifeform: btw i find it interesting, you go on a train ride in washingtonistan and count the ipnojes, 6 outta 7 have smashed glass. apparently even the 50bux or so that it costs if yer hands grow from arse and cant do it yerself, is toomuch for the typical ipnojist..

asciilifeform: the ham4lyf d00dz even in '90 already considered ratshack a ripoff, and went to buy/sell the junkyard-scavenged parts 100% from ea. other

asciilifeform: iirc ratshack already was a zombie in 1990 or so. the wonder is how long the zombie walked, not that it finally crumbled

BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well, where I grew up local radioshack was a franchise op. Part Radioshack, part crafts stuff franchisee sold in his other store the next county over.

mircea_popescu: so they did what they do, "band together and preternd on a 1. 1 >0 even if 1 != the infinity it should be"

asciilifeform: ( iirc mircea_popescu found 1 down south at some pt, but there is no resupply for'em, the co long ago folded , asciilifeform went and bought ~entire contents of 1 for a hundy or so )

BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> right ? and WHAT THE FUCK do they put IN THE PLACE, physical as well as financial, thus saved ? same thing women put in the place where "floor washing on hands and knees" and "bake cake" used to go, ie subhuman africanisms ? oh, but tyvm, this progress is so very fecal./ << What they put in the place are a bunch of storefront kiosks each selling a particular wireless carrier's products.

mircea_popescu: a much saner milieu than "here's our corporate brochure"

asciilifeform: '90s irons were solid, in comparison even with that opteron. e.g. i still have a 486 that worx like the day it was new, not even recapped ever

BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i mean, used to be every town of 100k or more white people had a store with some of ALL of those in stock << And then Retards killed radioshack

mircea_popescu: n-th restatement of "not beating wives and children has created irrespirable world, a fie on you" etc thread, we'll skip.

asciilifeform: ( dks dug up a crate of cpu, i bought a coupla )

mircea_popescu: i mean, used to be every town of 100k or more white people had a store with some of ALL of those in stock

mircea_popescu: re out there doing systematic by-hand mobo-ing because "valuable resource ran extinct", might as well have baked... i dunno, a half-sane southbridge ?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: will add that 'peanut' can grow to 'pea-elephant' if -- and this time verily cometh -- there is not a replacement on hand.

mircea_popescu: yeah but i mean... seriously ? ten thousand man-hours of work for a peanut ?

asciilifeform: even the satellite people only seem to give a shit up to 7 yrs or so, re iron life

mircea_popescu: once the electronix ppl land i might have a better something.

mircea_popescu: nor does it look like a cap death.

asciilifeform: ( since that article, asciilifeform did get a hotter iron, but reworking rohsisms is still a bitch, the high temp tends to lift the tracks )

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, unfortunately i uprooted my electronics lab already. it's ok though, i have a crate of replacements on its way.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you still haven't thrown that mobo and wanna put it back in service, feel free to gpgram which caps you need, and where to poste'em, i'ma send you some from own crate, then possibly you can get the bmw fixer d00d to solder it for a bottle o'rum or etc

a111: Logged on 2019-03-23 14:55 asciilifeform: the underlying algo, tho, oughta be obv -- if you have a primorial up to X, you dun need to do anything fancy (e.g. m-r) to get the next prime you want to multiply into it , all you need is to gcd and see if the next number is relatively prime to it, if it is -- then it is prime, and can go 'in'.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-23#1904064 << yes, basically diana_coman 's by-6 used as a bootstrapper and a two pouch mutualizer to expand it to size ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-23#1904055 << that's the primo quality of a good brainfuck. just ask the sluts. ☝︎

BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo, btw could delete item http://qntra.net/2019/03/uranium-convoy-fired-on-in-brazil/#comment-126190 ? was just a test of the comment filteruing issue not understood at the time, has nothing to do with qntra per se. << done

asciilifeform: the underlying algo, tho, oughta be obv -- if you have a primorial up to X, you dun need to do anything fancy (e.g. m-r) to get the next prime you want to multiply into it , all you need is to gcd and see if the next number is relatively prime to it, if it is -- then it is prime, and can go 'in'. ☟︎

asciilifeform: a large % of the delta , by mass, is eggog detection + helpful message prints for same

asciilifeform: the forth-like notation admittedly requires some practice, for the unprepared ; but the win from it is a fits-in-head interpreter ( ch.17 -- 1024 ln; ch.18 , with subroutines , currently writing the docs -- 1516 , and not expected to ever grow much )

asciilifeform: {_.0} happens if the upper half is not zero, i.e. overflow (really can be replaced by {}, i wrote it hastily) , it puts down a 0 so the loop will halt ; the 'else' clause is {$x.1} , where we did not overflow, so we put the xy* lower half into reg 'x' and leave a 1 on stack so the loop continues.

asciilifeform: i'ma take a bit of log space to expand, cuz thing is a kind of 'pons asinorum'.

a111: Logged on 2019-03-23 10:36 mircea_popescu: i mean i get it, they're 20 years old by now. but give me a break, i can find chicks that were spawned 20 years ago just fine, for one thing. and for the other, what the fuck, 2001 era amd cpus STILL to this day the state of the art, they've not yet made better.

mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, btw could delete item http://qntra.net/2019/03/uranium-convoy-fired-on-in-brazil/#comment-126190 ? was just a test of the comment filteruing issue not understood at the time, has nothing to do with qntra per se.

mircea_popescu: (not even kidding, venezuela has oil, france has nothing. buncha cuntshat worms are a liability, not a resource, femstate propaganda notwithstanding.)

a111: Logged on 2019-03-22 16:56 asciilifeform: !A .6$x.3$y:y.2+$yxyG.1={xy*{_.0}{$x.1}_}{.1}_,x#QY

mircea_popescu: i mean i get it, they're 20 years old by now. but give me a break, i can find chicks that were spawned 20 years ago just fine, for one thing. and for the other, what the fuck, 2001 era amd cpus STILL to this day the state of the art, they've not yet made better. ☟︎

asciilifeform: !A .6$x.3$y:y.2+$yxyG.1={xy*{_.0}{$x.1}_}{.1}_,y.2-#QY

asciilifeform: !A .6$x.3$y:y.2+$yxyG.1={xy*{_.0}{$x.1}_}{.1}_,x#QY ☟︎

asciilifeform: !A help

diana_coman: hello asciilifeform ; ftr I've been enjoying the pehbot demos but atm I don't have a lot of time to catch up faster with ffa, sadly.

hanbot: billymg: these are the totality of your mp-wp patches, yes? http://billymg.com/2019/01/minor-mp-wp-patch-updates/ ; i don't recall anyone else having patches, please chime in if you do. meanwhile phf please add <--- to mp-wp tree, and i'ma solder these to the genesis after which danielpbarron i'd be happy to show you how to make a vpatch for your fix.

pehbot: asciilifeform: EGGOG: FATAL: Tick: 21 IP: 9 Symbol: ';' : Branching out of a Subroutine is Prohibited!

asciilifeform: !A @foo@.0{;}_ @foo! QY

hanbot: danielpbarron excellent find. i suppose the apache upgrade's breakage of shared pizarro customers' .htaccess files ought to have been a giveaway here. anyway, impressive; ty. d'you wanna make a patch for this + the db name change in wp-comments-post.php diana_coman pointed out? otherwise i'll do eeit.

danielpbarron: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-21#1903847 << i did a lazy greping of *.php files for "function(" and haven't yet found similar cases. There are two other anonymous funcitons without a "use" but they also don't have any outside variables to use, so no harm. The rest of the hits are on "create_function" which is similar to an anonymous function but is not victim to the same upgrading problem (still ☝︎

BingoBoingo: And no, I have no recieved my Cuntoo test subject yet. Seller promised a tracking number tomorrow morning, El Código de Comercio was a good purchase.

BingoBoingo: Burglars aren't much of a thing. Gun laws used to be very loose, though they are tighter now. There's not much in the houses to steal that isn't in their mochillas when the folks go out.

BingoBoingo: It's a cultural thing.

BingoBoingo: I try explaining to the Latinos and Latinas that US houses in the burbs don't have bars on the windows because there isn't shit inside worth taking, given the risk of getting shot invading a stranger's home.

asciilifeform: diana_coman: as i understand, trad pickpocket is pretty much extinct as a class in usa ( on acct of very little public transport , + very little in pockets worth taking )

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: prolly oughta put a comma in that title

diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-21#1903897 -> expert pickpocket is first of all expert in choosing victim; that being said, in Bucharest it was the 601 bus (always overflowing) and/or buses/trams from the North Station (bc. people with luggage in a hurry to get on the bus); this doesn't mean that it's not obvious and avoidable but assuming you want to bait them for the xp, those are easy spots. ☝︎

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Usually 2 politics pieces every other day. I try to at least eat the headlines. I like having a picture of where old country is headed.

BingoBoingo: The feria spreads are a split between stolen and dumpster recollected

asciilifeform: do orcs even know how to steal properly ? ( recall, sunday market, had among other things a carpet fulla... tv remotes. in ro i saw same, manned by gypsies. who the fuck steals these , and why ? who buys ? )

BingoBoingo: Well, this is a rural retard land with a rich lundfargo

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Chorros are a local demographic that considers themselves professional theives, mostly dumpster divers and picker uppers of unsecured items of dubious value

BingoBoingo: Walking around like a god damned prey animal

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: there's this notion among folx who won't even go, on a bet, to the reservation, 'cannibals will eat immediately'

BingoBoingo: Well, you've been in the US a while. You aren't going to go up to a pack of Urban youths and ask to take a picture with them.

mircea_popescu: by a good measure better than hanging out with the poodle lady.

asciilifeform: !A @foo@ @foo! ; @foo! QY

mircea_popescu: it's certainly a huge difference between (deedbot is connected to republican network, from which moron world managed to temporarily netsplit itself) and (deedbot is connected to moron world, apparently alone in corner by itself)

asciilifeform: trinque: i expect it'll be cured when we get on a sane relay net

asciilifeform: !A @foo@ @bar! ; @bar@ @foo! ; @foo! QY

trinque: going to have to give this thing a look soon; the mystery state of connected-yet-gone is getting more frequent.

mircea_popescu: geddit ? it's a poon!

mircea_popescu: a yes, definitely want that.

diana_coman: hanbot in tiny but useful changes: wp-comments-post.php still contains a trilema-specific query that can easily be changed to generic i.e. tril_comments should be $wpdb->comments (line 64)