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assbot: Logged on 23-09-2015 20:26:20; wywialm: i'll be going, thanks pete_dushenski for a nice (even if boring to the audience) discussion
BingoBoingo: I was about to say earlier that one of the people on my shortlist of Satoshi candidates died today.
mircea_popescu: teh sandwich i mean.
shinohai: https://i.imgur.com/5bhh4j1.jpg <<< make me a sandwich
mircea_popescu: i dun recall.
shinohai: I almost responded to his baby Jesus analogy, but didn't want to offend danielpbarron ☟︎
shinohai: I can't find *any* contribution he really makes to the space besides increasing popcorn share prices.
shinohai: Somehow, I just don't think he's gonna respond to me on that.
ascii_field: i.e. if three people have it, it is just as useful as if 33 did
ascii_field: BingoBoingo: gotta understand why i even opened the issue to begin with. the dependence of therealbitcoin on pc hardware is an extreme danger.
ascii_field: i - elementarily - lack the time.
shinohai: I have faith in you ascii_field
BingoBoingo: shinohai: Would likely require a deturded p2pool with a gossip sort of "pool with people I don't think are shitheads" Wot mechanism
wywialm: i'll be going, thanks pete_dushenski for a nice (even if boring to the audience) discussion ☟︎
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: i thought it was a kgb front
shinohai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-09-2015#1284014 <<< ikr? I asked a simple question, wywialm expounds on it in great detail. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: the ordinary tools are predicated on the tool. much like i will go "do i need to pick up the stick ?"
mircea_popescu: anyway, i very much doubt there's that many people who are the intellectual equals of the task. the catholics decided that this must be so, but setting that doctrine aside, i find it dubious in practice.
wywialm: re: infallibility, indeed, though i'm not sure if this is his only tool
assbot: Logged on 23-09-2015 16:58:16; wywialm: the most precise definition of this is the vaticanum I constitution "pastor aeternus", and this is to guard the tradition of the Church
mircea_popescu: if we can have an arrangement where these peasants are opressed into the dirt by boot to the face, i'm willing to forego ipads in exchange.
ascii_field: ^ deal! where do i pay
mircea_popescu: <funkenstein_> the notion that britney spears did damage to music might be compared to the idea that Garza did damage to bitcoin << still, i'd pay a little for it not being possible for britney to exist. and garza idem.
wywialm: in particular, when i do not approve of his certain actions, i assume them to be his private and not official, unless proven otherwise
wywialm: and with pope, the actions are primarily teaching, so i strive to keep this difference there
wywialm: if you meet, say, Warren Buffett, and he tells you 'sure, I'll give you some money', do you expect the cash to come from his personal funds or from BRK accounts? I'd expect from any officer to distinguish between his private actions and actions of his office
pete_dushenski: i guess you're free to do business with people who have this duality is you so please :)
wywialm: pete_dushenski, i already tried to clarify what i meant on 'what he says'
thestringpuller: In this instance I'd think weakest hunter is used as cannon fodder.
wywialm: i think this is a good metaphor
wywialm: there is difference between what i say loosely, what i say clearsigned and what i sign and put on the deedbot
thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: imo in both these cases, it's detrimental to the species since the weak are perserved for no other reason than "because I can and I love my son/daughter".
thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: yes but the affect of "preventing" natural selection from occurring in the family unit is only temporary. even d00d protected in parents basement until his 40's may never have kids. (or perhaps the barrier to having kids is so low the termporary shield against selection of any sort gives unfit offspring the opportunity to spawn with other unfit offspring i.e. idiocracy)
wywialm: i wanted to point that the level of officiality (at least by catholic criteria) is ambiguous even with most publicised texts, such as his adhortation or encyclicals
wywialm: i do not believe that pope has opinions, simply put. what pope says is what pope says *officially* and not to the journalists at the airport
wywialm: pete_dushenski, i'm a little bit familiar with the galileo case, and i wouldn't put it as an example of revision of doctrine
wywialm: but i think there is difference between saying that about Bergoglio as Bergoglio, and as Pope Francis
wywialm: pete_dushenski, i hope not. i said that Bergoglio sounds leftist, because that is in my opinion broader than (at least economically understood) socialism
phf: doesn't cathoic church has a deedbot of some sort? i'm more familiar with orthodox system, but presumably they come out every once in a while to updates for canon and the catechism, "we found the previous belief that 10 angels can fit on a head of a needle invalid, and on the account of recent scientific developments in nanotechnology, we are now convinced that the correct number is in fact 17" sort of thing
thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: i've always wondered, by definition, does socialism prevent natural selection?
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: to wywialm there may be, tis what i'm interested to find out
wywialm: if this sounds ambigous to me - and it does - i'd check what is the context of what the pope says, and this is e.g. his predecessors
thestringpuller: Random L0L: I'm Charlie Shrem, Bitcoin Pioneer currently in Federal Prison. << I'm tempted to ask, "Is your butthole still tight?"
wywialm: but i'm interested in what is the Pope's teaching on the subject of helping the poor is
wywialm: i'm not particularly interested in Jorge Bergoglio's opinion and what he means, i'm rather scared that this is far away from i'd like to hear
wywialm: yes, that is what i'm trying to defend
thestringpuller: In this scenario I would say all men are a slave to the machine. Without the machine the species ends.
thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: "As such, I would find it absolutely essential, in order to take this question to its logical conclusion, to murder everyone in my constituency extant and to replace them with an army of sterile maleviii clones (perhaps with the help of Monsanto because I hear they’re pretty good at this sort of thing), whom will be raised by robot nannies, so as to control for the differences between parenting qualities and s
thestringpuller: i.e. rape and pillage!
danielpbarron: I met the author of that site, and a couple of his daughters, one of his sons, and his sister and her son, oh and his mother
danielpbarron: the one to which I linked earlier
danielpbarron: > Paine rejected the teachings of "any church that I know of," including "the Roman church." << me too (with the exception of that one, which I found almost by accident through a mutual interest in the Ron Paul presidential campaign)
pete_dushenski: in this case, yes, i do
danielpbarron: if you mean the "catholic" church, then I couldn't agree more: http://www.atruechurch.info/catholicism.html
phf: i think there was a conversation at some point how diff/patch doesn't create empty directories and you have to resort to .keepme hacks, it was suggested that the correct solution is to patch makefile.unix instead, but i don't think that was done
shinohai: I'll try manually adding it. I'm in the habit of deleting object files when a build fails
wywialm: the most precise definition of this is the vaticanum I constitution "pastor aeternus", and this is to guard the tradition of the Church ☟︎
pete_dushenski: wywialm: ok. i'll bite. what's the pope ~actual~ mandate ?
shinohai: I brought up the subject due to the statement he made that "I am not a socialist" yet in my limited knowledge of the subject, he has a lot of socialist ideas.
ascii_field: 'Whem I'm released, the only restriction I have is travelling for the first few months. Other than that, Im allowed to use the internet. Im debating wether to buy the blackphone when I get out or just root an android ' << win
pete_dushenski: i'll leave that bit of homework to others, wywialm perhaps
wywialm: evangelii gaudium, if i remember correctly
wywialm: also, the effect - the redistribution - is not the virtue, charity, i.e. voluntary act is
wywialm: as i stated earlier, this depends on the definition of socialism
wywialm: pete_dushenski, to be fair, i'm not sure how this relates to Pope Francis official teaching or private opinions
pete_dushenski: wywialm shinohai et al., i refer you to http://trilema.com/2013/universalism-postwar-progressivism-as-a-christian-sect/
wywialm: i'm no expert on catholic teaching, but under charitable interpretation, Pope Francis is not outside catholic guidelines on care of the poor and principle of subsidiarity
pete_dushenski: s up my sleeve to ensure that I can overpower anyone that comes through the tunnel."
pete_dushenski: unpleasant as I possibly can to anyone who dares to crawl through the tunnel. I will try to the best of my ability to make them regret their decision...I'll try my very best to sexually assault him or her. The tunnel is constructed in such a way that it gets smaller the closer you get to the project room. The bigger you are, the more difficult it is to comfortably crawl out. And trust me, I have a lot of secret
pete_dushenski: "Why rape? Because as an artistic gesture, it's one of the most impactful I can think of... It dawned on me that if the work [we local artists] created had never existed, the world would be no different than if it had. None of it mattered to anyone outside of our small and insignificant circle of peers. I wanted something that would have more impact...I want to make it clear that I plan to make the experience as
pete_dushenski: can't say i'd come across this tlp article until now.
assbot: The Last Psychiatrist: I'm Building A Rape Tunnel ... ( http://bit.ly/1OuEoqj )
assbot: Logged on 23-09-2015 04:55:31; pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-09-2015#1278736 << turns out that i was off the mark here. to wit : "Emissions system and fuel economy testing is conducted while a vehicle is placed on a dynamometer—think of it as a two big rollers or a treadmill—rather than driving on the road. The vehicle has only its driving wheels rolling (the front ones, in the case of VW vehicles). But the rear tires
pete_dushenski: funkenstein_: vw is under investigation for 'studying to the test' atm. i'm sure they'll be slapped with a big ol' fine by usg and then watch their sales fall by 10-20%
lobbes: I'd argue that 'music' is just fine, but it is the 'popular music industry' that suffers today. But, the masses have come to expect (tm) as they say
punkman: https://forum.bitcoin.com/bitcoin-discussion/i-m-charlie-shrem-bitcoin-pioneer-currently-in-federal-prison-ama-t239.html#p393 Ver asking Shrem for prison tips
mircea_popescu: but basically... it never occured to me that in point of fact bitbet's minimum acts as a tax. and a lot of other things in here never occured to me. i'm still reeling over the whole pile.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla the problem i see is this : forcing bets removes their signalling capacity. if i increase the minimum i just remove meaning from money.
jurov: asciilifeform: i meant these cases where the libraries spawn processes on their own
asciilifeform: if we don't - can't think of anything i have on my boxes that would
mircea_popescu: punkman so i guess now we find out that "those were fictive" ^H^H^H^H^H^H ppls really believe in teh technologee.
asciilifeform: 'turns out xfce4's terminal app depends on it. it's getting pretty tough to keep a gnome/kde free system. maybe i should give in to the evil' << l0l
shinohai: https://i.imgur.com/sRUZoaT.jpg <<< yellowfever.jpg
mircea_popescu: i'm staying right here!
mircea_popescu: it's not my fault i end up repeating myself.
asciilifeform: i confess i must have slept through whatever this was.
shinohai: I commented on that tweet kek
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-09-2015#1283583 << what am i looking at ? ☝︎
shinohai: I am seeing a correlation here though. You are practically giving away btc to artists that are doing it anyway, but most are too lazy to open a webchat and come to irc.
shinohai: I'd put it in coinbr, but I didn't know of this place in 2013
shinohai: I've never seen strippers turn down *free fucking money* mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: "Ultimately, as Bitcoin takes over the internet, all non-Bitcoin projects (of any kind) will be treated with the ridicule afforded a US resident who tries to pay for his milk with Japanese yen. Eventually, interest in using a non-Bitcoin will fall to zero. Altcoins, even somehow-useful ones, don’t have a future." << and the proper link for this is, of course, http://trilema.com/2014/the-woes-of-altcoin-or-why-there-i
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: as to liquidity, hot damn if i don't see it now. only 6 hours into this yom kippur fast and i'm always too slow.
mircea_popescu: what if hollywood never existed altogether and i wouldn't have to explain to sane people from the future why the fuck exactly is it that every woman in every film has a permanently affixed bedspread righ above her tits for some reason ?
assbot: Logged on 22-09-2015 23:59:19; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-09-2015#1282971 << omg1111111111 i can't afford 'boeing' !! where is my NEED-BASED AID !??!!
psztorc: I'll probably be back.
psztorc: I don't consider poker gambling, personally.
mircea_popescu: of which i mostly know because some derps on reddit kept being butthurt at bitbet existing or somesuch.
psztorc: Yeah, I couldn't convince that guy that markets aren't gambling.
psztorc: I should edit that because PT did finish reviewing it.