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mjr_: i don't
mjr_: but they probably won't for quite some time
mjr_: they won't do it
mjr_: so it won't be a TRUE etf
jurov: also, satoshidice isn't translated iirc. russians have less problem with english than asians
jurov: actually as chinese can't access google, it may be stronger there
mjr_: as most people probably don't need to google it by the time they are in the community
jurov: mjr_ we don't even know how many ppl use bitcoins. or at least how many actually own 1BTC or more
mjr_: if only it wasn't so hard to get bitcoins
mjr_: usually there is a date on which all owners of the stock get paid their dividend...but you can't just buy it the day before and get it
mjr_: wait...they don't tell you when? AND you can buy the shares on the day of and still get in?
Bugpowder: if you want to get the dividend you shouldn't wait
mjr_: i can't wait to do this...
mjr_: either way, i don't want to withdraw cash just BTC
pigeons: here's a new one I didn't see on bitcoincharts yesterday https://www.libertybit.com
mircea_popescu: there's no reason it wouldn't go both ways simultaneously.
BingoBongo: The most surprising thing about bitcoin would be if the USG doesn't ignore all of the things it says it opposes so it can leverage the BTC network to transfer value to its more expendable allies
mircea_popescu: they wouldn't even use it. it's not a practical request.
BingoBongo: Didn't intersango die a month before GLBSE
fancypants: ask her i don't know
fancypants: i don't know namworld but if I tell her me keyed i get 5
molecular: I hadn't considered that
mircea_popescu: fancypants you never know whether the person selling a pgp key doesn't keep a copy.
mircea_popescu: the keyring is on a cold machine and it doesn't keep track of key updates.
mircea_popescu: can't hurt anything
mircea_popescu: Ukto pity they STILL haven't gotten with the program and listed
Namworld: I lended them for shorting, and the shorting contract specified if shares weren't trading at the time of expiry, I'd be paid a 1 BTC compensation instead of getting shares.
Namworld: If only GLBSE hadn't been closed
jcpham: i wouldn't know Bowjob i do not gamble
burnside: we did some math and didn't think the perforated tiles had enough surface area to cool the higher heat racks
mircea_popescu: they don't look young enough t obe adopted PotsieRewards
burnside: Ukto, I'm it will. I'm not sure how much, but the assets that don't have asic plans are going to get kind of ugly
kakobreklaa: >>Yeah. The BTC-sphere is like in the meatspace: you may be punished just for pennies, but if you scam really big time you become Too Big To Jail. Learn the lesson and don't trust anyone ever more, especially the big fat fishes with super-hero rep.
burnside: we've had good luck with brocade, but don't use them for transit, only internal switching and load balancing
mircea_popescu: if he doesn't he's free to go get himself scammed and learn the hard way.
mircea_popescu: bah. why doesn't anyone think erik is mpoe-pr instead!
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't mind listing a poker site if it were any good.
mircea_popescu: imsaguy sure. i don't even think it'll hit 30 tbh.
imsaguy: mircea_popescu, you know as well as I do, that things won't run away forever
JohnGalt1337: can't get an instant 2-figure bet
DeadWeasel: you don't pay taxes when you buy whatever it is to play farmville, right?
DeadWeasel: well, they can't prove I own shit.
mircea_popescu: jeez negative q4 gdp. they're fucked over there aren't they.
mircea_popescu: didn't even know it existed.
mircea_popescu: don't tell me ruby is blown wide open twice in three weeks
smickles: it doesn't have to be long, just newsworthy or quality information
smickles: 't need to provide the service
DeadWeasel: problem is the forum isn't good new with so much trolling, and google pickups are too sparse. but in time news should pick up enough.
mircea_popescu: it really boggles me that this isn't moving, the need for btc finance news is marked and yet... crckets
DeadWeasel: I don't think bitcoin needs 'aggressive expansion'.
mircea_popescu: in practice, good companies with revenue and market don't much want to list because why share your profits
mircea_popescu: miner pools aren't exactly companies.
smickles: thestringpuller: generally, you cut losses and let profits ride, that's why, when you suspect a bubble, you don't sell all. you hedge your position
mircea_popescu: smickles well it's only dead to the point that i wouldn't currently trust it with a case involving my or mpex's interests
smickles: oh, hey. is ther rota dead to the point that it shouldn't be mentioned in new contracts as the dispute resolution method?
mircea_popescu: at least hacven't received any complaints on the matter so far.
mircea_popescu: shouldn't be.
gesell: "(15:26:46) mircea_popescu: you can't bet on people dieing omg" seriously? isnt this why bitcoin was created in the first place https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Bell
mircea_popescu: you can't bet on people dieing omg
mircea_popescu: i can't fucking keep track of them anymore, it's all a blur. plus when i go to type into the url bar i have to type an entire word!
pigeons: nefario is asked questions about regulation at a conference in london, he says "who cares, can't get me"
pigeons: looks like colored coins is your best bet for that, but i still don't think the bitcoin blockchain is the best place
pigeons: ripple doesn't use the bitcoin blockchain, but it has its own blockchain called the "ledger"
mircea_popescu: it does seem to me that it can't happen again
mircea_popescu: irl a well run bank can't compete with a "too big to fail" bank
mircea_popescu: i don't think there's any requirement for collectivism. in fact, the main seductive guile of btc to me is how prettily it completely decouples success from any sort of collective action whatsoever.
mircea_popescu: now, once reward halving was pinned down, the smart bought. the stupid didn't buy, because they were mommentum trading and the mommentum wasn't moving.
mircea_popescu: i can't define what smarter is.
mircea_popescu: http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/chart.png?width=940&m=mtgoxUSD&SubmitButton=Draw&r=60&i=&c=0&s=&e=&Prev=&Next=&t=S&b=&a1=&m1=10&a2=&m2=25&x=0&i1=&i2=&i3=&i4=&v=1&cv=0&ps=0&l=0&p=0&
Namworld: I can't cancel orders
assbot: Hell, ain't we about more fucked than a whore at closin' time, huh?
maximian: looks like messages are being wrapped in HTML, which I don't recall happening before
mjrIII: i didn't get to go to davos this year lol
mircea_popescu: i don't think anyone's going through mtgox by now lol
mjrIII: i don't want to take any usd out, just bitcoins
mircea_popescu: gesell heh. i guess you weren't here when people dumped all the way to .0008. read http://trilema.com/2013/marketplace-excitement-with-expert-commentary-for-your-vicarious-trading-pleasure/ to catch up
mjrIII: but one question, how do you clear the options trades? if I have the option to buy at $20 USD, don't I have to send mpex/broker USD...how can you do this through mpex? hold on i will read the faq again
Namworld: Options don't work like that on MPEx
mircea_popescu: but yes, it's rare that you can't just sell for the same effect
Bowjob: Roaring 20s people. hopefully we don't crash in '29
mircea_popescu: maximian wasn't thinking before, isn't thinking now. no cost to him :p
mircea_popescu: and still such low volume. top isn't in yet.
assbot: I don't give a shit who saw what and who did what or who did who.
rng29a: indirectly also time based, if the hashrate doesn't change too much
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder even if the avaolon full 1st batch is delivered and works it still won't push diff up by 100% right ?
Bugpowder: I didn't realize that 1Di6ux came back from the dead!
Namworld: I wouldn't include the whale in the valuation of S.DICE
smickles: you don't care to oppose it
smickles: if you ain't co.ukian, i'm sure they could put you in touch with your country's similar organization
smickles: EskimoBob: rather than circumventing local law, why don't you get the law changed?
jborkl: Wait, I don't see the point of what he is doing. If you need to exchange there is GOX and if someone needs a loan they just go scam off the lending forum right?
mircea_popescu: i don't think he knows what he's doing.
dub: I don't think he's in the US
mircea_popescu: wasn't someone posting a supposed cgiminer screenshot earlier ?
midnightmagic: vitriolic people who aren't angry usually have scarier problems?
DeadWeasel: don't they own the majority of America's debt too?
smickles: i don't hold that against them tho
smickles: that they arn't seriously talike about goblins
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: Calling them names isn't helpful given the brutal oppression involved.
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic right. stealing farmer's farms because they're white wasn't brutal.