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apeloyee: why should correctness depend on order of the arguments?
asciilifeform: that part i get, it doesn't have anything to do with the clobbering of the modulus
apeloyee: the change to size Stack in the first paste was irrelevant
asciilifeform: apeloyee: let's hear the answer to the riddle ?
apeloyee: Hear, hear! If asciilifeform would agree to take discussion of why 1+1=2 elsewhere, I'll do.
apeloyee: MustNotZero has 0 to do with Stack(0) << I know.
diana_coman: now hmm, where was that bit written on trilema
shinohai snail-mails diana_coman all my claim updates, looks around forlornly as they all vanish into lbn ....
diana_coman: and fwiw see history of foxybot: it started precisely like that, as a player-made-for-own-use thing and it ended up bundled into "official" client
shinohai: Well as diana_coman said, Eulora encourages one to customize to one's liking.
diana_coman: esthlos, certainly, not an issue; I think you are overthinking/overreading into this
esthlos: diana_coman I didn't mean to imply it would be "official" (tm) client
asciilifeform: the proper way to enforce 'no access to Stack(0)' would be to constrain Stack_Positions to 1 .. Height. but this leaves no way to represent an empty stack.
shinohai: Logged: 09:17 +Hasimir and yes, libgcrypt is part of the larger project, Werner and Niibe are at the core of GNU security.
asciilifeform: type Stacks is array(Stack_Positions range <>) of FZ(1 .. Wordness);
asciilifeform: and no, not 'enough', i'd like to find out wtf apeloyee was thinking
a111: Logged on 2018-01-17 11:28 apeloyee: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-16#1771004 << it's not me that does it at the expense of obvious correctness, but _you_. instead of having the compiler enforce no access to Stack(0), one is forced to rely solely on manual checking. But enough about that trivial matter; I'll just make the change locally.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-17#1771640 << MustNotZero has 0 to do with Stack(0), it is there to keep the tape from creating a div0 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-17 11:22 apeloyee: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-16#1771008 << I doubt you actually understood why (If you had, you would be a lot more worried, per http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-16#1771010 ). here's a simpler version of the puzzle: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/UmpSH/?raw=true . has exactly the same bug.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-17#1771637 << your item clobbers the modulus as it runs. what i dunget, is why this would justify making the range of SP wider than Stack itself, as seen in your paste earlier. ☝︎
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
shinohai: !~later tell BingoBoingo Be sure to get your Bitcorn http://bitcorns.com/ico.html
diana_coman: you can play it with whatever client you want, that's the point
diana_coman: esthlos, "current eulora functionality" has nothing to do with graphics really; and client is totally up to players
shinohai: I started some work on this over a year ago, simply too much work for me because of irl obligations unfortunately.
shinohai: You have my full support, and will be glad to help read/test any code you produce.
esthlos: shinohai: I've targeted this as my first real contribution to la serenissima
shinohai: Text-driven client is the holy grail for some of us Eulora people.
esthlos: Alternative is stupidly simple text-driven client; downloads multimedia using eucrypt
esthlos: Rereading, seems clear that you want eulora's graphics engine. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-16 15:57 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-16#1770890 << to be clear, the idea here is that you pick up the extant eulora client, gut it of the current eulora functionality, put eucrypt in there and proceed to implement your idea. this way you have a proved-to-cross-compile platform to start from.
esthlos: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-16#1771055 << My thought was to scrap the current client in favor of a customized one, with eucrypt protocol as the backbone. Is this 1. not what you want, or 2. a bad idea? ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-16 15:13 asciilifeform: and willing to do so at the expense of obvious correctness ?
apeloyee: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-16#1771004 << it's not me that does it at the expense of obvious correctness, but _you_. instead of having the compiler enforce no access to Stack(0), one is forced to rely solely on manual checking. But enough about that trivial matter; I'll just make the change locally. ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-16 15:15 asciilifeform: if anyone finds so much as the smell of one -- i would like to hear about it, asap.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-16 15:15 asciilifeform: and yes his example snippet ~will~ barf. and no i won't spoil the puzzle by saying where and how. and no it is not hard to make 9000 similar examples.
apeloyee: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-16#1771008 << I doubt you actually understood why (If you had, you would be a lot more worried, per http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-16#1771010 ). here's a simpler version of the puzzle: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/UmpSH/?raw=true . has exactly the same bug. ☝︎☝︎☟︎
Techman: mircea_popescu: what isy our take on bitcoin dropping below 10K (at least on binance) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://yehar.com/blog/?p=893 << how to save 50 euro for the cost of five plus liberal application of your time (which has no value).
a111: Logged on 2017-12-13 18:44 asciilifeform: and was played using clever method , where normally '1-bit' pc speaker membrane was allowed to travel 'partial' way , squeezing extra 'bitness'
a111: Logged on 2018-01-17 04:31 phf: oh, hah, i remember this "bytebeat" stuff, before it had a fancy name
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-17#1771626 << shit i used to make these! 1992 represent! ☝︎
mircea_popescu: phf shorts because you probably tore proper pants by climbing into tree.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: venmo is a touchscreen software abomination that claims to suck money out of one us account and put it into another
phf: oh, hah, i remember this "bytebeat" stuff, before it had a fancy name ☟︎
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in 'omfg, there are still thinking people on www somewhere', http://yehar.com/blog/?p=430
a111: Logged on 2018-01-16 19:20 phf: re fighting for walmart, dolly parton apparently did a pretty bad rendition of the ballad of the green beret https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7-pnAPcSN4
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-17#1771571 << in my family for some reason they favored suit, tie ~and shorts~ combination ☝︎
mircea_popescu: in other openssl gets prizes, today cisco got lenin prize for secure communications.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-16 22:53 trinque: dem rst packets today
a111: Logged on 2018-01-16 21:34 trinque: lobbes: yes, they crawl for "legitimate content" with good search ranking, steal, put ads next to it
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-16#1771444 << no ads there tho. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-16#1771438 << funnily, left the links o.O ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-16 20:49 Covale`: and there´s a Lenin there too, on the left: https://calinhera.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/cana-basescu1.jpg
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-16#1771435 << hey, is that your blog then ? ☝︎☟︎
ben_vulpes: everyone's a truuu dom on the internet
a111: Logged on 2018-01-16 19:35 asciilifeform: today i gotta do this with own hands. because nobody else will, for any money.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-16#1771390 << hey, they all wanna be paid to sit around and social media, why do any work. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "green beret" is literally mentioned in there
asciilifeform: one time iirc 1 plane crash vanished an entire speshulforce. nobody missed it.
asciilifeform: 'seals', 'deltas', 'rangers', at least 3 others that i can't recall immediately from memory
asciilifeform: ( usg has moar 'seekrit speshul forces' than afaik anybody ever could want, all more or less interchangeable )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iirc that was the 'rangers'
mircea_popescu: (“Once they’ve been selected, there is no reason they should fail a single portion of the Q-course.”)
a111: Logged on 2018-01-16 19:20 phf: re fighting for walmart, dolly parton apparently did a pretty bad rendition of the ballad of the green beret https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7-pnAPcSN4
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-16#1771366 << "a thousand men will test today but only three will green beret" ie, http://trilema.com/2017/color-revolutions-green-or-today-in-usg-corruption-careerism-cronyism-and-malfeasance-in-the-special-warfare-center/#selection-251.260-251.360 ☝︎
shinohai: hanbot: Did they sell genuine Kikes there?
mircea_popescu: if raped, opt to be raped by gilgamesh.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: look into the beria trial some time, lol
deedbot: http://thewhet.net/2018/01/unsystematized-exploration-tropical-ed-no-whichever/ << The Whet - Unsystematized Exploration, Tropical Ed. No. Whichever
mircea_popescu: a little bit of, "hey, women, did you know that before the pantsuited hilarity you had no rights, and she gave them to you ?" "what ?" "o, yeah. ourdemocracy!"
mircea_popescu: great novel title, too, "the public denouncement of past excesses that never actually occured"
a111: Logged on 2018-01-16 19:14 asciilifeform: i can't help but picture that eventually they will have to cast ~new~ lenins.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-16#1771358 << this has such a delicious socialism scent to it. "twas easy for tov hruschev, he denounced stalin. tov popochev had to denounce palin, which didn't even historically exist. had to be recreated from old stalin photographs with moustache photochopped upside down!" ☝︎
mircea_popescu: the russki kids that "didn't want to" go to afghanistan and went anyway cuz who the fuck is asking them at least had the superficially coherent excuse that they did not believe in the soviet state. the ameritards by comparison "we only believe in it-gives-us-free-monies portion of us, no more", much less of an argument.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-16 18:55 trinque: it's possible ww3 might've almost made a country out of USA if it'd been fought in late 80s, and survived
mircea_popescu: hm, i shoulda named that piece tailhook-something.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-16 18:52 trinque: and got "shit, I joined the airforce to be in that gay-ass top gun movie, got instead desk, and military downsizing"
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-16#1771329 << pretty sure it was "i got into airforce to get the teenaged tail mandate, instead got http://trilema.com/when-did-america-end ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-16 18:48 phf: one of many 19th c poems, that i can recite, while standing on a chair (a particular form of grownup entertainment apparently unknown in eslands)
ben_vulpes: ey is it you that's been calling my folks?
asciilifeform: previously they did the sensible thing, for rats : stayed under the floorboards
mircea_popescu: hey, they naive belief of the enemy that strutting somehow benefits it is rather productive.
asciilifeform: betcha the boecks, the moxies, are green with envy
shinohai: They got an award for making this, we should keep using it!!!!!
asciilifeform: on that is becoming a standard for key derivation and already included in protocols such as TLS 1.3, WhatsApp, Facebook Messenger and more.' ( https://researcher.watson.ibm.com/researcher/view.php?person=us-hugokraw )
asciilifeform: the ssl derps i'll leave without comment. but the other great hero : 'Over the last 20+ years, Hugo contributed to Internet standards from the early days of IPsec and IKE to the current work on revamping the security of TLS for its "next generation" version, TLS 1.3. He is also a co-designer of HMAC, the widely used message authentication and pseudo-random function. More recently, he designed HKDF, an HMAC-based key derivation functi
asciilifeform: i had nfi there were an nsa prize for 'top useful idjit'
asciilifeform: orld systems. This year one of the two recipients is the OpenSSL team. The other recipient is Hugo Krawczyk.'
asciilifeform: meanwhile in entomology dept, https://www.openssl.org/blog/blog/2018/01/10/levchin << 'Today I have had great pleasure in attending the Real World Crypto 2018 conference in Zürich in order to receive the Levchin prize on behalf of the OpenSSL team. The Levchin prize for Real World Cryptography recognises up to two groups or individuals each year who have made significant advances in the practice of cryptography and its use in real-w
ben_vulpes: various oldcorp buddies are playing along "yeah i hate that fuckface too, how do i ruin his rep" for lulztraction
ben_vulpes: oh i forgot the best part, that "he has me cornered"
ben_vulpes: wrong in that wildly out of date
ben_vulpes: threats of "grand larceny", misc. "facts about you" that were categorically wrong (eg city of residence, number and ages of children)
asciilifeform: nm wrong term
a111: Logged on 2018-01-16 22:48 ben_vulpes: nattered on to itself for 3 minutes uninterrupted; i think it found a supply of uppers
asciilifeform: ... or use libretto system ( lid-close triggers suspend-to-ram; power button -- suspend to hdd )
asciilifeform: this'd be quite trivial to implement, but afaik nobody has.
asciilifeform: phf: re suspend-to-ram -- 1 of the things i still dunget, is why there isn't simply a compartment for sd card in the back of the box ( any of'em, old or new ). let's say after lid closed for 10min, it'd write the ram to the sd. if battery alive -- does nothing. but if dies, then when dc plug reinserted, load back from sd.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-16#1771445 << what i dun get, is why anybody puts up with the liquishit == fork asdf, send the french tard packing; bang! magick! no moar breakages ☝︎