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asciilifeform: further downstream
asciilifeform: ah hm yes
asciilifeform: bug in viewer ?
asciilifeform: (or anywhere else)
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-10#1539285 << why does ben_vulpes not show up on, e.g., genesis ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: in places where there are still walk-in bank.
asciilifeform: now also.
asciilifeform: what 80s
asciilifeform: not counting that incident with the box (in logs a few yrs ago)
asciilifeform hasn't been inside a bank in ~decade
asciilifeform: esp. not after the machines happily eat cheques etc.
asciilifeform: ~nobody
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-10#1539300 << here in the heart of mordor (and quite likely elsewhere in the land of the phreeee) the banks react. i.e. they are abolishing walk-in rooms with tellers etc. entirely. atm or gtfo. ☝︎
asciilifeform: in other noose, http://searchengineland.com/european-court-says-linking-illegal-content-copyright-infringement-258442
asciilifeform: 'CoinTelegraph author Rebecca Campbell asked "If Bitcoin Had Sex, Could It Be Female?"' << wat
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-10#1539271 << lol how did this get urlsnipped ☝︎
asciilifeform can't be arsed to listen to it either, he's listening to police radio and it is gut-bustingly hilarious
asciilifeform: neato phf . it worx.
asciilifeform: iirc he's one of the mr.mold-style americanized faux-anarchy fellas.
asciilifeform: $s molyneux
asciilifeform: $s factom
asciilifeform: 'factom', even
asciilifeform: and hey, various ancient scams still zombieing along
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-10#1539176 << fountain of lulz. e.g., 'Loyyal 'Pre-Series A' - The Internet of Loyalty' ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://allowe.com/games/larry/tips-manuals/lsl1-age-quiz.html << timeless lel.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2015-05-13#1129920 <<<< there. ☝︎
asciilifeform: $s leisure suit
asciilifeform: !#s leisure suit
asciilifeform: hm
asciilifeform: $#s leisure suit
asciilifeform: so we must've had thread re subj.
asciilifeform: l0l! yes!
asciilifeform: i only found out late in life that it was actually a 'book code' copyprotection thing.
asciilifeform: hey did we ever have thread re the 'culture test' in lsl ?
asciilifeform: 'WAT A PERVERT!111' (tm) (r) (lsl)
asciilifeform last proper 'shooter' was 'quake 1' on a 486, at ~7 frame/sec.
asciilifeform: i want the blue velvety nazi panels from 'wolfenstein'.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in 'doom II'.
asciilifeform: iirc the gypsies work this way already.
asciilifeform: because potentially each time incurs 50bux of overdraft, etc.
asciilifeform: so all else equal, they want chump to pay N times, vs 1.
asciilifeform: even with 'normal people' visa, every payment chances to incur, e.g., overdraft fee
asciilifeform: eh if visa dings him 5bux every time he pulls it from the holster
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: or, iirc, any other year
asciilifeform: aite.
asciilifeform: sooo thread was not in fact about camel shit but cookies sweet ?
asciilifeform: keeping local bar tab is not 'micropayment'.
asciilifeform: i only have objection to the latter.
asciilifeform: own accounts != bitcoin micropayment.
asciilifeform: i never got the 'old coin' thing.
asciilifeform: why the hell would anyone mine these, other than if his mother dropped him as a child.
asciilifeform: why no fee ?
asciilifeform: attempting to bill the gym per-minute, with a 0.1 fee tx every minute, would be braindamaged though.
asciilifeform: trinque: nothing wrong with that
asciilifeform: i don't do ritualistic epidemiology.
asciilifeform: i also do not care what the other one licked if i actually grasp subj. e.g., i don't give a fuck that it produced ada.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-10#1538962 << the way this knot is cut is that there are 2 usg, the one that delivers my mail every couplea weeks to the house across the street, and the other one. and i don't give a flying fuck what the dumb one licked. ☝︎
asciilifeform: trinque: what aspect, again, am i failing to understand ?
asciilifeform: it is a plainly dumb thing to do from their pov.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-10#1539002 << i must point out that this is a strictly temporary situation. miners have ZERO incentive to mine 'old coinbase tx' for 0fee. ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what aspect do you suggest i failed to understand ?
asciilifeform: mcdonalds also does trillion or whatever per day.
asciilifeform: well yes, because p. t. barnum.
asciilifeform: if i wanted to pay 50% fee, i'd go to western motherfucking union.
asciilifeform: it can go and sadly rust somewhere else, in some other fool's garage.
asciilifeform: just like i won't buy an engine with 1% coefficient of useful work.
asciilifeform: trinque: i can say when a deal is a bum deal and i won't take.
asciilifeform: but to revisit subj, i suggest that 'micro' roughly would be any payment where the coefficient of fee / payload is in the neighbourhood of (or even above!) 1.0.
asciilifeform: ~that~ is solely 20th c.
asciilifeform: https://www.city.takeo.lg.jp/rekisi/english/img/p-mortar.jpg << illustrative .
asciilifeform: today.
asciilifeform: y'know, like 'mortar' used to refer to a cannon where the caliber is within order of magnitude of the length.
asciilifeform: i propose that 'micro' is any payment where the tx fee is within an order of magnitude of the payload.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-10#1538953 << let's have a working definition of a 'micro' payment. ☝︎
asciilifeform brb - meat.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-10#1538943 << didn't the 'cup of coffee' thread happen long before i showed up even ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: i suppose we can ask him when he next crosses orbit with us.
asciilifeform: i was wondering if he has actual reservations.
asciilifeform: it is something ~everyone here can usefully do.
asciilifeform: mod6: this merits a thread imho. it is not reasonable to ask that every ablebodied fella WRITE a useful patch. but why not READ ?
asciilifeform: trinque: i promise to read.
asciilifeform: point plox
asciilifeform: not same thing as a payerbot by any means.
asciilifeform: i'll gladly take turn filling it.
asciilifeform: if something merits paying for, it merits macropaying. by human.
asciilifeform: and robots in charge of money are a recipe for tears.
asciilifeform: you don't, micropayments are braindamaged.
asciilifeform: i like ben_vulpes but he has not been catching mice. ☟︎
asciilifeform: afaik.
asciilifeform: any rate
asciilifeform: not a vpatch, at ant rate.
asciilifeform: i dun get it.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-09#1538801 << wai. ☝︎
asciilifeform: phf: i have one for upnp removal but it is pre-v
asciilifeform: 'drownbot hands you a broomstick.'
asciilifeform: 'oops i meant - 'down' not 'drown' !'
asciilifeform: etc.
asciilifeform: $@drown useless_son
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-10#1538866 << why not also drown your children for you. ☝︎
asciilifeform: i could've sworn he wrote >=1