asciilifeform: 'lose some choppers' quickly becomes expensive.

asciilifeform: even then.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this presupposes a 100% landing rate, and a time 0 to encipher and fill the stick, and then to empty it

asciilifeform: as a receiver it's pretty good (but no shortwave without a freq. down-converter, iirc)

asciilifeform: it is not a useful way to do anything.

asciilifeform: Framedragger: the linked piece is approx. same as the 'transmit with my vga card' from 1990s.

asciilifeform: which is a quite useful thing, both for 'i can hear my keyboard across the street, wtf', other experiments, but also for picking up eventually mircea_popescu's shortwave.

asciilifeform: 'rtl-sdr' (i have a couple here) are cheapo programmable wideband ~receivers~

asciilifeform: that'd be 'gnu radio'.

asciilifeform: you might be thinking of 'gnu radio' etc.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-12#1540016 << these don't transmit. ☝︎

asciilifeform: lulzy.

asciilifeform: aite

asciilifeform: because i confess, i refreshed it a buncha times

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'read' presumably means unique loads ?

asciilifeform: and relatedly, i have a proposed cut of the gordian knot, but now i gotta write it up

asciilifeform: i dun get it

asciilifeform: what means 'huge interest but linked nowhere' ?

asciilifeform: https://archive.is/zq3op << in other lulz.

asciilifeform: heh i still recall when folks believed that their unixen were 'multi user' os etc. aha.

asciilifeform: ah.

asciilifeform: .. or the overdue bullet ?

asciilifeform: not publicly

asciilifeform: the particular exploit ?

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-12#1539858 << pretty great. thing is long overdue for its behind-the-shed bullet, just like openssl. ☝︎

asciilifeform: the secrets are in no way shared between the users.

asciilifeform: let him die.

asciilifeform: so he leaks HIS tx.

asciilifeform: there is no 3rd party in the envisioned scheme.

asciilifeform: the users ? then they are retarded.

asciilifeform: and who exactly else will leak ?

asciilifeform: well if your own pool leaks, you're done

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: would be interesting to see this expanded on

asciilifeform: the annoying part was the game of simon-says, not the 'too many buttons', ftr.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: how do i locally configure my terminal to emit mircea_popescu's command-of-the-day ?

asciilifeform: trinque: mircea_popescu was correct in his formulation that you gotta be large enough for them to die if they refuse, for this to work.

asciilifeform: let it go over proper crypto to the high-s pool.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-12#1539841 << the second half of this is afaik true, but the first item is trivially solved by not sending the tx anywhere else. ☝︎

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu et al : would be imho spiffy if one could get a sexprtronic list of commands out of a bot in pm

asciilifeform: apparently - not yet.

asciilifeform: !$ buttseks

asciilifeform: e.g., http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-12#1539813 ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-12#1539827 << mircea_popescu throws rotten tomato at me but afaik there is not a canonical manual of commands, nor is it possible to find whether the latest knob rewiring took, without brute test of three or four of these ☝︎

asciilifeform: ^ interesting. is this correct mechanism ? ( 2 bots answer )

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-12#1539822 << i think the boeckfest was over on friday night ☝︎

asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: yeah i have nfi how mircea_popescu ended up emitting a high-S. and he never, iirc, said. probably was test.

asciilifeform: but no takers, mega-surprise.

asciilifeform: (principally via the building, hypothetically, of a high-S-only pool)

asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i did call for nuke war over the high-S idiocy...

asciilifeform: ^ pretty strange.

asciilifeform: !#s 12821434770207124962218342772669979580034410699894792217009678098194556802269429235901909465304384529740402801239415068853092063888103297243254641064047113

asciilifeform: danielpbarron: your www appears to be dead ? ☟︎

asciilifeform: ohio; pennsylvania; new york.

asciilifeform: dun matter which char

asciilifeform: search should be a single-char command

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu ?

asciilifeform: can we have a perma-moratorium on this nonsense ?

asciilifeform: why the FUCK did $s have to move.

asciilifeform: !~s tropos

asciilifeform: #!s tropos

asciilifeform: motherfucker

asciilifeform: $s tropos

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-12#1539752 << 74.45.228.159, 74.45.228.160, 74.45.231.125, 74.45.228.49, 74.45.0.60 -- are all currently up and happily report being tropos boxes. ☝︎

asciilifeform: thing's supposed to be stateless.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-12#1539757 << this makes 0 sense. what 'connections' are there in anyone's gossipd picture ? ☝︎

asciilifeform also

asciilifeform: brb

asciilifeform: but 0 wings.

asciilifeform: all emphasis re wings is on ~not falling off~.

asciilifeform: or how plane is not designed to do any particular constructive thing should the wings fall off.

asciilifeform: as on choppers.

asciilifeform: it is foolish to design for 'what if my rng silently fails'. it is a 'jesus bolt' failure ☟︎

asciilifeform: the basic error is same tho

asciilifeform: 'they might see my shitrng'

asciilifeform: i suspect this is the basic fear that motivates whiteners

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-11#1539692 << that'd be the exact opposite of 'all or nothing', neh? ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-11#1539690 << i used cornall's ☝︎

asciilifeform: but yes, it is 'freeform' in the sense where no algebraicism (as in rivest's, or the popular OAEP) is imposed, and the output can be as long and entropic as one likes.

asciilifeform: it remains to be demonstrated rigorously that mine does the job as claimed. which is why i haven't posted it quite yet.

asciilifeform: i must wonder now if mircea_popescu came out with same item i did.

asciilifeform: it is a brain-meltingly simple algo, somewhat like 'v'; and inverting the transform with partial info is provably equivalent to halting problem.

asciilifeform: i'ma post it once i get a couple of spare hours in which to write it up.

asciilifeform: -- an 'all or nothing transform' (term of art) that, unlike, e.g., rivest's, does not rely on the strength of any hash, nor symmetric cipher, nor imposes algebraic structure.

asciilifeform: as a byproduct of the mega-thread on mircea_popescu's www, i invented a potentially useful item, that probably ought to be shared

asciilifeform: unrelatedly,

asciilifeform: (is it apparent to the naked eye what it is ?)

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i am quite curious re how you would summarize the point of contention in subj thread. ☟︎

asciilifeform: my exhortation here was 'say what has not been said,' not 'moar dakka!' (or however these go.)

asciilifeform: trinque: fair'nuff.

asciilifeform: incidentally, i must also add that there are potentially other solutions ( e.g., zkp auth.) that do not reduce to 'sh' or 'dc'.

asciilifeform: i will add that, despite the ~total impasse, this has been the most enjoyable public dialogue i've partaken in, in quite some time.

asciilifeform: hopefully.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i drop this here in attempt to coax the lazy folk to join us on your www.

asciilifeform: currently it would appear that each is doomed to write own proggy...

asciilifeform: isputes this.

asciilifeform: for anyone who, like phf, has been 'waiting for dust to settle', here's (imho) ~impartial summary: mircea_popescu demands one particular aspect of correct gossiptron: repudiability; and is willing to newjersyize ('best-effort') everything else. asciilifeform demands that the entire thing have strength on par with the basis crypto. mircea_popescu points out that this building demands an escherian, if you will, brick. asciilifeform - d

asciilifeform: phf: it's more or less deadlocked.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: last reply is queued (contains phuctor link) and probably won't show up in trinque's feeder.

asciilifeform: jurov ?