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asciilifeform: i knew it.
asciilifeform: sure. when i need a bulldozer, i rent it. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: or moreover, perhaps, but i don't think you have the right idea.
mircea_popescu: "it was better". i'm sure. until it is and all you can think of is how to trade dad's old house for two shiny new ipads and a van.
mircea_popescu: i've had this discussion with old folk in romania. they have a very distinct FEEL for the old style settled village life in that space. i have a very precise understanding of it, because they're cows and i'm the young lord. nevertheless, the point stands :
assbot: Rent is so high in San Francisco that I’m a software engineer and I live in a van - Quartz ... ( http://bit.ly/1ONxrj2 )
asciilifeform: related lul: http://qz.com/524138/rent-is-so-high-in-san-francisco-that-im-a-software-engineer-and-i-live-in-a-van
mircea_popescu: "all my grandcarbons traded soot for gaseous form, said the co2. and given half a chance, i'll trade it right the fuck back, said he. and so it was, and had been a number of times prior.)
asciilifeform: grandfather traded; i - given half a chance - will trade right fucking back.
asciilifeform: i'd trade it all for pen, paper, and zero orcs ☟︎
asciilifeform: whereas i pay to live in shithole.
mircea_popescu: i know, i know, "british researches discover antioxidants hold secret to eternal lyf"
mircea_popescu: it's not like i hate you or anything. the problem is that you're intellectually imuno-compromised so to speak, by which i mean : you get ideas, which is fine, but also a common function of the human mind. but then when you go to evaluate them, your evaluator is broken, and when the evaluator is called into question it's discovered in turn that the building blocks are also broken and in turn the building blocks for thos
HeySteve: pete_dushenski well I agree, it has made things clearer. helps me when approaching people who won't speak their mind, knowing how they will might it.
HeySteve: well, that's a bit blunt but I'll certainly consider the objections and problems.
shinohai: "Dear Mr. Landlord: I knew you were probably gonna keep my deposit anyway, so I just went ahead and trashed up the place good so you can keep the deposit."
mircea_popescu: i read it on the internet.
HeySteve: and it's public, so if I take bribes pretty soon it'll become obvious
HeySteve: well, say landlord claims "but you broke lightbulb so I'm keeping it all." there's a process based on evidence.
mircea_popescu: i have my doubts, tbh.
HeySteve: but I wouldn't recommend it as a carry trade destination
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski aparently south africa. i have nfi.
mircea_popescu: so let me get this straight, you want to give people too poor to litigate, too stupid / desocialized to talk to the landlord and too scared to act the option "you can either pay 100 to the landlord as deposit or 300 to me and unlike the landlord I PROMISE to give it back (maybe), except im not anywhere near you and you can't burn my house down" ? ☟︎
HeySteve: pretty brutal but that's what I found when looking at renting that side
HeySteve: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-10-2015#1301624 << there's nothing outside the paper rental contract at the end of the day. but i guess i'm still about foggy about what 'this' is < haven't reached clarity yet myself but this discussion is helping a lot. basically a multiple of the rental deposit normally paid to the landlord gets escrowed in cryptocurrency. ☝︎
shinohai: When I find them in my travels, I will generally buy them whether one or ten. I bought these cases from a store that went out of biz.
pete_dushenski: i set my screens at 5`500k in the daytime and dial it back to 4`100k before bed to wind me down
shinohai: I suppose when my supply runs out I will have to learn to blow glass and make my own.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-10-2015#1301624 << there's nothing outside the paper rental contract at the end of the day. but i guess i'm still about foggy about what 'this' is ☝︎
HeySteve: I have a UV light from an old apparatus I should find a use for
shinohai: I like them for reading, I mainly use them in my library/lab
mircea_popescu: i have no problem flood-lighting industrial spaces in sodium lamps, or blowing the shit out of consumable beauties in the studio with halogen projectors.
shinohai: I am glad that someone still likes incandescent bulbs. I have an entire case of GE 60 and 100 watts in my basement.
HeySteve: I read about you finding "MP" old style bulbs
mircea_popescu: they're often in rental units because hey, "energy efficiency". i have to take them out every time.
mircea_popescu: no but i mean the "energy efficient" mercury dispensers.
HeySteve: well maybe for marijuana growers but I mean just regular 60W bulbs, shouldn't be more than $5 here
HeySteve: about competitors advertising deposit fairness, hope they will use this system I propose to enforce it.
HeySteve: they inflate the repair and cleaning expenses at least 5x from the bills I've seen
HeySteve: I don't know where the money goes but they are raking in all these deposits
HeySteve: competing for rich tenants, well I offer them the guaranteed return of their deposit without the hassle of litigation. courts may be effective in some cases but there's always legal risk and time costs involved.
HeySteve: <+mircea_popescu> no landlord makes a tidy living off scaming tenants. <- perhaps I should say, "make frequent bonuses." there's a rental agency infamous for it in SA and also a few private owners I could mention. it's also very common for them to not keep the deposit in an interest-bearing account by law or to skim the interest. from that same rental agency, tenants apparently get back
mircea_popescu: none of this will ever work in any sense, but if you play it right and get lucky might get you dinner with obama, which... i hear the food sucks and the table manners are worse, but then again they're not inviting me so it's all good.
mircea_popescu: (and they can do A LOT of damage with that, many jurisdiction have the notion of problem landlord in some manner, and you can often get treble damages, heck in one case a guy i know got the landlord kicked out of town. as in, had to sell ALL his property and not buy there again, ever.)
HeySteve: mircea_popescu, I understand your point. my gf agrees with you. I can make this better for property holders if tenants pay a double (or even triple) deposit, or perhaps I must think on further improvements. those making a tidy living off scamming tenants will of course never go for it, but a good-faith landlord might appreciate having more insurance against property damage / non-payment.
mircea_popescu: i do believe him when he keeps saying he drinks a lot. he'd have to. the damage imbecile "social agreements" do to smart people.
mircea_popescu: all it says is that a system of thought is ipso facto worthless, but hey, i can see why he prefers the counterfactual statement of it.
mircea_popescu: i guess we should add to gabrielradio's list http://trilema.com/2011/cel-mai-adevarat-in-gangsta-rap/ ☟︎
mircea_popescu: What happened? I think the generation raised on action movies felt betrayed. Those movies promised possibilities, promised that when you grow up, your powers will kick in. When you grow up, if bad guys take over a bank, you'll be able to use kung fu on them. It seemed not to have occurred to anyone to learn actual kung fu, or look up how banks are typically laid out, where the alarms are-- just in case. No, these
mircea_popescu: but seriously, the libtards/hipsers actually need " People aren't seeing Eastwood play Walt; they are seeing The Man With No Name now aged 70 and living alone, still clinging to his horse, I mean gun, I mean car. That's the guy they want to see "grow," that's the guy they want to see admit he was wrong. " ?
mircea_popescu: im not about to see the movie, for one thing i never gave much of a shit about eastwood and for the other he certainly went to shit in his later life (what is with this, pacino doing incredibly bad bullshit a la simone and de niro doing the worst infomercial "movies" conceivable ?)
jurov: i'd expect you of all people to ruthlessly follow any stupidity to its root, if you found it in yourself
mircea_popescu: i also witnessed magnetism.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck permits these imbeciles to pretend like they're faculty i have no idea.
mod6: i'm workin on it here. i forget my build rank... 70 somethin i think.
assbot: Logged on 17-10-2015 18:16:21; mod6: i just pulled down the new version of eulora btw. about to try to build it...
danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-10-2015#1301438 << i need someone with low building rank to use my small mushroom claims; good opportunity for n00bs to get some free experience ☝︎
phf: i think canonical example of solving that sort of problems (i.e. generating command language from a higher level lisp solution) comes from cltl2 section on trig functions for complex values, where guy steele for whatever reason decided to include pretty graphs of function behaviors. he also included the program that he used to generate the graphs, by producing .ps from lisp
ben_vulpes: i'm dinking around with clnuplot as we speak, already seeing the end of its utility for me.
phf: ben_vulpes: for something like gnuplot i've discovered that learning all kinds of fancy ways you can output a string with #'format is a lot more useful skill then learning a specific library. short of writing an equivalent of gnuplot command ast you're going to run into impedence mismatch one way or another
ben_vulpes: i wonder what i'm using in that case
ben_vulpes: that's really what I want.
asciilifeform: yes, it is. the example i am sitting on right now weights perhaps half a tonne, occupies most of a small room...
mircea_popescu: and "i want one like joe has" is a perfectly valid definition file.
mircea_popescu: the only example i can think of would be "consumer designed laptop". you go in the shop with the definition files and they fedex you the item later that week
mod6: Sure beats what I was doing.
mod6: I saw a mining map that seemed to be autogenerated by the bot?! Looked fantastic.
mod6: I saw there is some structures in the pictures, gotta check that out.
mod6: it's how I found a whole 'nother patch of Elusive Snails.
mod6: wow yeah, think i read that. lol, I've used 2 of 'em.
mircea_popescu: i did a bunch myself, like 100 or so sticks.
mircea_popescu: it's ten minutes to set up and ten minutes of use to make itself indispensable. the chick can code, i don't remember a tool becoming THIS FUCKING NEEDED in recent times.
mod6: i like manual mining though... in a way, it's just some time for me to do some clicking and thinking about other things.
mod6: i gotta learn how to use Foxy's bot!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yes, i recall the box.
mod6: i just pulled down the new version of eulora btw. about to try to build it... ☟︎
asciilifeform: mod6: these days i scarcely get to sit in front of it for 2-3 hrs /wk
mircea_popescu: i'm playing it as we speak, making congressional pulp.
asciilifeform: i recall, mircea_popescu's 'laptop', a skeleton with a handle!
mircea_popescu: i'm playing it. but it's a desktop
mod6: i just need to get a fantastic display array like asciilifeform
mod6: ben_vulpes: yeah, i couldn't imagine trying to do the same with a tablet or something. but i like the desktops that I have at home for stuff too.
mircea_popescu: it occurs to me i have in this selfsame year never showed anyone anything.
ben_vulpes: someday i'll offload all this onto staff.
PeterL: I still use my 2007 MacBook as my only puter
mircea_popescu: i own like 3 of the things, i used them for maybe five hours total the past year.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: 'Moreover, have you watched their software and hardware quality degrade phenomenally over the past decade? I certainly have. All of the old laptops, selections from the eMac and iMac line are total design and fabrication winners—solid and reliable. My ENTIRELY RECENT "Macbook Pro" is rotting as I watch...' << eh, it was not 'solid until jobs died.' but rather reached a short-lived peak in 2010 or so. have you alr
mircea_popescu: i'd try some rum argument.
mircea_popescu: i wonder how come they make sake argument and not say wine argument, or rum argument.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i certainly am not rich yet.
mircea_popescu: maybe the managers were like "hey, b-a luminary and trb maintainer mod seeks is coming over, EVERYONE ON ATTENTION!!1. Joe, call your wife, I know we said we'd never put her on but man... THIS IS TMSR!"
mircea_popescu: i've yet to find a strip joint that's not really a kindergarten of the retarded.
mod6: lol, I had to look up at her.
mod6: there was a tall blond with a nice rack-of-lamb that was just for you Mr. P. You would have liked her I think. :]
mircea_popescu: oh dude... am i going to hear cca 2500 that i had a sideline in "poetry writing" ?
mod6: oh yeah, i see now, those three things are in a line of my ls output in one of my term windows.
mircea_popescu: i assumed same.
mod6: "when did i say /that/?!"
asciilifeform: mod6: i assumed it was a stray paste, aha
ben_vulpes: mod6: i thought it was a sneaky release