asciilifeform: diana_coman: depends what means 'usable'
asciilifeform: ( it is in principle possible to make such a thing, but no one afaik has attempted , and i cannot immediately think re how to approach )
asciilifeform: there is not however a mechanism for 'convert from stone age gentoo to cuntoo w/out nuking disk', afaik .
asciilifeform: diana_coman: it's what you have on s.mg primary machine
asciilifeform: this entirely troo. in south sovok we had both hemp and poppies growing wild, neither was smoked by ~anyone
asciilifeform: i expect it means 'so little cocaine as to not be worth extracting' then. ( must be similar to the case with the poison frog ? y'know, the little colourful one. they grow a++ in terrarium, but entirely safe to eat )
asciilifeform: i.e. wine is not directly analogous product, where complex mixture
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-02#1910631 << i defo aint expert on subj, but what means 'not very good' coca ? afaik there is exactly 1 active organic in it -- 'not good' is simply when less ? oughta still be worth sumthing neh☝︎
asciilifeform: ( where's 'head' ? there's nuffin there )
asciilifeform: ( and gotta be replaced with cuntoo )
asciilifeform: ( these gentoos were based on what asciilifeform uses personally in torture room. )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-02#1910633 << there's actually not 1 but 2 'standard os' available in piz ( 'rk' and 'dulap' tarballs ) but both are stone age gentoos, they are obsoleted by cuntoo (when the latter is pronounced baked, but really even nao, it is impossible to e.g. 'emerge' packages on the vintage gentoo, the upstream package repos went full tard year ago )☝︎
asciilifeform: the 1 place where it wins ( aside from 'can use x64 gnat' ) is that it has (not 1 but 3) slots for msata.
asciilifeform: interestingly, the disappearance of the 2gb rk has made the apu1 just about price-equivalent with rk . ( tho it ~does~ occupy 5x the physical space, and eat 4x the current )
asciilifeform: ( above is not ~directly~ piz-pertinent, but ~does~ make it 9000x easier to develop rom payloads for the thing )
asciilifeform: among other virtues, it's the only currently produced box that worx with sage device .
asciilifeform: i have for several yrs nao , 2 of these going in the torture room ( the old 2GB ver. ) , w/various probes soldered in, for various purposes
asciilifeform: ( if anyone forgot -- this is series of 12v-powered amd64 boxen with published schematics, afaik the only such that's still in production )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: currently i'm thinking, 2 x dulap-style, 2 x 1u w/ ea. 4 x apu1 'amd g' where cuntoo in write-protected rom . ( i have a rom booter for the latter, built on ancient 'coreboot' )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: also plox to confirm, at yer earliest, that refuel was received.
asciilifeform: ( x is what remains after the most recent dc refuel by asciilifeform )
asciilifeform: and incidentally, BingoBoingo , asciilifeform owes 1btc + x to piz . plox to determine x , and i'ma pay it in iron , at the moment when we come to final decision re next iron set.
asciilifeform: what do i then tell people, 'yes canhaz ada, but dun use thread' lol.
asciilifeform: granted , rk worx fine for 'traditional' soft, e.g. mp's wp ; but let's say 'tmsr dns' or other adatronic proggy becomes part of typical use, then wat.
asciilifeform: right nao i cannot justify investing large bag of dough in rk
asciilifeform: the disappearance of ave1 has made the matter moar pressing
asciilifeform: it saddens asciilifeform to end up loading up on x86 , but unless there is sudden breakthrough , this is what must be done☟︎
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: diana_coman provoked me to think : until arm64 gnat is fixed ( and we dun know when this will be! cuz ave1 is MIA ! ) it does not make sense to expand the rk pilot plant . do we want instead to fill the next crate entirely with amd ? let's make a decision on this in the near term, so that we can put down a definite date re next buildout
asciilifeform: diana_coman: one we install additional units, this machine will be listed in the catalogue next to rk. ( presently the only available unit is the one discussed earlier, and only by special arrangement as with hanbot )
asciilifeform: iirc BingoBoingo has performed a successful beta-cuntoo installation , for own needs. you may choose to delegate the task to him.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i would proclaim moar loudly that it is 'standard' , but i have no way to guarantee the continued availability of this (or other) particular iron, given as i do not manufacture it , and there is no plan to ever obtain it 'new from factory' , 'clean' amd is no longer produced.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: as i think is obvious, experimental ~os~ install , over remote wire, is a tricky and potentially painful biz .
asciilifeform: there is a qty of 1tb samsungs in stock .
asciilifeform: diana_coman: disk, correct, separate. arrange with BingoBoingo re required size of disk .
asciilifeform: diana_coman: indeed , this is the de-facto piz standard for x86 . on acct of cost , availability, and asciilifeform-approved vintage of subcomponents
asciilifeform: diana_coman: 1.9GHz x 24core (Opteron 6168) 24G ram.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: to answer the 2nd q, the next delivery run is slated to include two additional machines of the same type.
asciilifeform: it is actually the snsa spare , BingoBoingo and asciilifeform were leasing it out to hanbot at colo rate , with mp's permission.☟︎
asciilifeform: diana_coman: there is exactly 1 idle amd box currently.
asciilifeform: hanbot plox to correct me if above is wrong.
asciilifeform: afaik 100% of hanbot's problem was in the experimental (cuntoo) soft
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i am not aware of hanbot lodging a complaint re ~the iron~ ( plz point to log if missed )
asciilifeform ate considerable qty of sturgeon caviar , as a boy , cuz in su was quite available. they pissed on the cartel, with enthusiasm , and if were alive today, would piss still, and not only on this one
asciilifeform: ... rather like the case of sturgeon caviar. turns out, sturgeon grows a++ in captivity. but nobody's in any hurry to drive its price to the physically-available min.
asciilifeform vaguely suspects that cocaine is a 'veblen good' , and that this accounts for above puzzler
asciilifeform: what, medellin shot literally errybody who tried ?
asciilifeform: but not particularly interesting to go to
asciilifeform: iirc this one, is not far from montevideo
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: other curio in uy , there was a 'civilian' ru colony. but they did not have the cult. so result was -- assimilated, forgot lang, today ~indistinguishable from other local orcs
asciilifeform: even moar interestingly, visitors all seem to agree re 'they have moonshine, but no alconauts, no one takes to drink' etc
asciilifeform: they not only breed but the n+1st gen goes 'yeah i'ma live here, and wake up at 400hrs for matins, and then drive tractor, or horse if out of petrol' and it goes.☟︎
asciilifeform: afaik they even get by, somehow, without a 'pope'
asciilifeform: imho 1 of the more interesting examples of 'well-run cult'
asciilifeform: ( 'mars' is not even the worst case. iirc there was an ancient thread where mircea_popescu described some scan where 'land for pennies', and on examination turned out to be in the andes, where even to anchor a solar panel is nontrivial )
asciilifeform: i'ma guess then , that '2.5 - 5k usd / hectare' is naked mars, and the 50-150 , is where habitable
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: this is a 'bring yer own reactor an' plumbing' martian landscape , i suppose ?
