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mircea_popescu: i'm not affraid of commitment bitch. i just don't care for your definition of it.
midnightmagic: I know you have trouble when people talk back to you and all, but geez man. At a certain point, don't let the concorde fallacy trap you into pursuing a dead end.
midnightmagic: Then do it. Do the work that the devs can't or won't, and build the spec.
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: You don't have to be friends with someone to engage in civil discourse.
mircea_popescu: thing is... i couldn't care less about this.
mircea_popescu: .edu is for things that don't change anything.
benkay: if you're being sarcastic, I don't parse sarcasm online.
midnightmagic: Lots of things. I can't possibly imagine which subset of the whole you are referring to.
midnightmagic: So is Facebook, isn't it?
mircea_popescu: they're drowning in code for quite obvious reasons i won't rehash.
mircea_popescu: wouldn't this be by definition something i'd know better than you then ?
mircea_popescu: you are telling me about the minute characteristics of a set you can't let alone define other than by reference to me, but even nominally identify in no matter how small a part ?
midnightmagic: Obviously the devs themselves aren't going to bother participating in your alternative.
mircea_popescu: you call this reasonable ? dude, srsly. just becasuse your friends tell you you're pretty doesn't make you easier on the eyes than the average shaved donkey butt
mircea_popescu: 2. you shouldn't be telling us this
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't bet much on the future of anyone that thinks they can stand up to my acerbic. but hey, your money, your vote.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i wouldn't deign jgarzik's crossposted crap with much attention.
mircea_popescu: "but we can't finance anything useful because bitcoin"
mircea_popescu: and if you don't like hearing it from me, ask gavin.
midnightmagic: even the stuff he does that doesn't make it in provides backdrop for the stuff that does.
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic listen up : you folks don't get to change things just by power of friendship which is magic.
benkay: can't you spend from the master key?
mircea_popescu: i don't think it's fundamentally evil or anything.
mircea_popescu: i on the other hand haven't mastered the mysteries of spelling berkeley
mircea_popescu: as we know, devteam hasn't mastered the mysteries of configuring berkley
benkay: doesn't address blockchain forking, granted.
benkay: i don't really get why incoming funds need to be processed by hand
mircea_popescu: hint : no, it wasn't those that trust them, like btc-guild.
jurov: that 3:13pm ... at least add the proxy, i confirmed t working via http://www.ipv6proxy.net/ , too
mircea_popescu: but if those who get things done don't educate, who will ? those who don't ? we;ve seen the results of that one heh.
mircea_popescu: they aren't paid, except for gavin, who is probably not paid anything much at all.
deadweasel: benkay mayhab I did, mayhab I didn't
mircea_popescu: sorry j but i won't fiddle with routes and shit
FabianB_: lol, cPanel can't handle ipv6?
mircea_popescu: "The US datacenters we have dont support IPv6 or if they do it is very limited. The London DC does support IPv6 but cPanel and a lot of the other stuff on the server doesn't so those IPs they are able to give, are actually useless at this time."
jurov: hm, mpex6.coinbr.com should work (ipv6 only) but someohow doesn't here
jurov: gpg can't get over these missing ---s? i thought that's their purpose
smickles: i haven't verified it :P
mircea_popescu: the current people doing it obviously aren't quite there yet, but no worries,
benkay: dude! you guys i don't even want to build a business in this space
benkay: i don't have time for this conversation
Namworld: :;rate Chaang-Noi -10 Too much black/purple/red in his home, really bad choice of colors. Doesn't give off a very trusty vibe like pure white.
gribble: Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
gribble: Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
dub: pps: don't ask about makign backups
dub: ps: don't tell them I sent you
mircea_popescu: BitHub don't get excited, it's for the helper ppl :D
BitHub: if it aint broken, don't fix it
jcpham: shitty devs didn't tell me anything
mircea_popescu: jcpham ver .8 didn't make tiself.
mircea_popescu: "TD that's why i don't understand people who say implementation diversity is a good thing. it's clearly not."
mircea_popescu: so just don't post in topics created by luke
mircea_popescu: inb4 "no cause i can't share my ip"
mircea_popescu: i don't have ddos threats lmao
benkay: don't trust the good who runs the assbot listening to mpex
mircea_popescu: benkay well no but it doesn't take wagers where one person can singlehandedly decide the outcome
FabianB: Ukto and kakobrekla just don't get along
FabianB: sad my bet on bitbet "bitfunder won't announce in #bitcoin-assets by ..." wasn't accepted a few days ago ;)
benkay: don't have time to explain.
benkay: just 'cause you dumped money into it doesn't give it value.
mircea_popescu: Ukto i don't think you understand how this works
FabianB: Ukto: how's a push from your system to assbot 'banging your server'? if i understand it right assbot doesn't pull from your servers
mircea_popescu: i don't think there's much hope for the current dev team, seriously.
dub: you aren't on a quest to rescue bitcoin from mediocraty?
mircea_popescu: P T Barnum's Magical Trading Cards & Bitcoin Esoteric Foundation ?
mircea_popescu: they don't understand it at all.
maximian: market doesn't seem terribly concerned about about all this
mod6: but... it doesn't have to be 50 volumes to be helpful either.
mod6: (13:35) < jurov> mod6 yea but if you don't painstakingly document it it just won't go past some threshold << documentation is amazing
jurov: kakobrekla you didn't got doublespended on smpake.com?
Lyspooner: maybe i misunderstand mining pools' payouts. but if i do work now, i shouldn't be paid until t+120
mircea_popescu: i don't think you understand the problem.
Lyspooner: isn't that the op's fault then?
benkay: i don't optimize for pain.
jurov: mod6 yea but if you don't painstakingly document it it just won't go past some threshold
benkay: in retrospect, i'm a little surprised they didn't this time
jurov: lol the vride isn't up to specs
mircea_popescu: here are the problems that i don't know how to solve.
mircea_popescu: this wouldn't take much longer than a few weeks for a first draft, which can then be argued and refined
mircea_popescu: jurov anyway, the problem isn't as much the drama, but moreover that a single-source codebase is both non-bitcoiny and suspect.
mod6: it shouldn't be up to one dude to pay for all this shit...
jurov: mircea_popescu one thing i don't understand, you aren't going to hire any devs yourself cause it isn't worth the conflict and drama?
mod6: didn't this happen or something very similar to it before?
mircea_popescu: jgarzik sipa: I don't think so
mircea_popescu: nobody gets to say i can't,
mircea_popescu: i am still steaming over the fact that i can't create abitrary size txs
jurov: incidentally, they still don't have sane interface, too
jurov: prolly they don't have time to test properly xD
jurov: wasn't hard... couldn't understand why that function isn't exposed already
jcpham: http://micropoll.com/t/LE9JQZQhrI
MJR_: ain't no one got time for that indeed
mircea_popescu: mod6 i don't know who's listening to them.
jurov: mod6 good for ya. i did touch it and it didn't hurt.
mircea_popescu: i don't even mean government necessarily.
mircea_popescu: mod6 of course, the blockszie issue wasn't hitting the transport layer
mircea_popescu: pigeons why isn't it now ?
MJR_: I can't remember your exact quote mircea_popescu but something like "if you want to use crypto currency but don't understand cryptography..."
mod6: all independant of eachother that aren't scams
MJR_: they listed the loss in dollars, but you can't send cash over a wire
pgp: they weren't using two factor auth with that exchange...