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mircea_popescu: dude, who the fuck cares about all that ? not elliot. he cares about what he WANTS
mircea_popescu: ideally, if the chinese govt would just give them money to keep doing what they're doing.
mircea_popescu: it's yet unclear to them that china already has its own class.
mircea_popescu: it's clear to them survival depends on switching over to china - this boat they've managed to sunk.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's not newsworthy per se, it's the aparatchicks boiling and festering over some means of jumping ship
mircea_popescu: which is why it takes man his entire life to find out who he is.
mircea_popescu: but for everyone else, identity is a deductive result, which is why there can't be such a thing as "an example of you"
mircea_popescu: i do, but to quote myself, "Grecii sunt scutul, nu sulita, ca de obicei exact altfel, exact invers, exact pe dos decat ne asteptam noi, in convingerea noastra ca i-am inteles. Si ca de obicei, au dreptate."
mircea_popescu: if identity is in fact "a set of deep habits" then you are a woman in the greek sense of that term ; and moreover i have nfi why you wouldn't be happy in the inca state.
mircea_popescu: the buddhist monk rescuing scorpion koan is directly linked here.
mircea_popescu: you can't prefer among a set with cardinality less than two, that's why. sure, your identity may require you to not do x. this is fine, BUT IT IS ALSO NOT A PREFERENCE. it's your identity.
mircea_popescu: yes, but it induces a whole slew of shit that then passes for thought.
mircea_popescu: yes, "obvicously" what's "meant" is an approximation. then through practice that obvious goes away, much like rubber gloves one never changes or reviews,
mircea_popescu: the notion that one "prefers death" is very similar to "cut me e length of rope"
mircea_popescu: there's a long history of playing fast and loose with domain before one arrives at this wretched state where he "prefers complex numbers".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a man who is a plumber is not by this measure "a plague victim". yes, the man works in shit all day. but : he does the work in shit with shit tools, and then he presumably eats with eat tools. he doesn't mix the two.
mircea_popescu: but i am starting to udnerstand why ~any math phd i ever encountered has major social function issues.
mircea_popescu: what's "manipulation" to do with it ? if you claimed you sat down to have tea with some complex numbers, i'd point out the batshit insanity of that notion just like above, yes.
mircea_popescu: no example is required to decide any dispute. the example is a teaching tool, not a reasoning tool.
mircea_popescu: the field is not "argument from authority or argument from induction"
mircea_popescu: usefully at the destruction of correctly is pretty much the "western world" example.
mircea_popescu: which is why "life" scarcely prepares one for leadership.
mircea_popescu: that it's present to you dun mean it's present to them.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they didn't, nor do i, nor does anyone capable of thinking.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller don't be the messenger. kid can gpg like anyone else.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you aren't reasoning about IT. you're reasoning around it.
mircea_popescu: gtfo, by the same token elliot knows a lot about fucking ; and the exact-copies of him in charge of the circus act that in the us passes for finance now that the arabs have entirely decapitated it know a lot about bankruptcy
mircea_popescu: "oh, i spend all my time counting milimorts so i know a lot about death"
mircea_popescu: i barf at the idea that you dicking around with a statistical model has allowed you to cogently discuss the actual events.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i'd guess you pivoted the definition. "milimort nonsense" refers to the ridiculous pretense that statistics discusses discrete events ; it is not a proposition that statistical aproaches to risk management are infeasible or their lingo inacceptable.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform both the "milimort" nonsense and the "operate on own deaths" nonsense do. and it's not coincidental, you evidently build this crap on top of itself.
mircea_popescu: it's one thing to say "most black people are uneployed". it is another thing to say "this man is unemmployed because black"
mircea_popescu: look here : risk, as a statistical concern, and phenomenology, as a discrete history of the world, are entirely separate domains.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform omfg you're going to be an unwashed pop-statistician now too ?!
mircea_popescu: moreover, the fact that folk are "stuck" operating on windows/other tiling wm "all the time" is really no excuse to smash your stack, as in
mircea_popescu: no, nude isn't a pejorative, it's not better to be dressed than naked.
mircea_popescu: (btw since stuprum, stupeo was mentioned, let's point out to trinque that the ancient word for rape actually denotes the very benumbment in question.)
mircea_popescu: whether it's nude or dressed discusses the pacification of society. common man tends to be (through herd socialisation) ... "upset" by nudity.
mircea_popescu: a nude call is a call that is not dressed. by parts : a call is an act of judgement, what's normally called "an expert call". when you produce through human heuristic a result that'd better be good enoughy because it's all there is.
mircea_popescu: your calling induction "demonstration" and you pretending a nude call as to the future counts as either doth not actually change how reason works, you know.
mircea_popescu: which is why all the scorn for their inevitable "oh but this rarely if ev er happens".
mircea_popescu: incorectness is "your array is 4 bytes and your malloc is 2 bytes", not "if you run this code you get crater"
mircea_popescu: so wait, wait, if "nobody's key got compromised" then koch bug was no bug ?
mircea_popescu: going out of bounds is the exact equivalent in practice of the medieval notion of "losing communion with god". you're... lost.
mircea_popescu: the practical difference it makes is that if you stuprum definitions the results are - by definition - undefined. just like when you smash buffers, what you get is a no-longer-working machine. irrespective of what "practical" difference it makes understood as "i still see tiled windows so all is well"
mircea_popescu: anyway : your death is never present to you, because for while you're here, it is not yet, and once it is, you are no more.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: the idea is to protect yourself from workplace injuries, not to embrace them. what is this, 1800s sulphur mine kids in sicily ? hunchback and sideways ?
mircea_popescu: exact fucking definition of derealisation, as in the psychosis symptom. "can't distinguish between things present and things in own head."
mircea_popescu: this qualifies as insanity. wtf do you mean the realia-idealia is "distinction without a difference" ?
mircea_popescu: if you didn't know geometry known in ancient greece you'd be worried. but this ?
mircea_popescu: how the hell did you end up with the idea death is ? fucking ancients knew proof to the contrary.
mircea_popescu: and you're way too liberal with this "oh, bigint ? sure i'll smush a string in there!"
mircea_popescu: if they won't eat the cockroach, they don't have a preference, they just gave up, or whatever.
mircea_popescu: if they ate dragonflies rather than wasps, they'd have had a preference for dragonflies and preferred dragonflies.
mircea_popescu: choice between one or fewer present things is not preference, but ideology/insanity/identity/whatever you wish to call it.
mircea_popescu: because preference, definitionally, is a choice between two or more present things.
mircea_popescu: there is no such thing as "the preferences" of the virgin. virgins have no preferences.
mircea_popescu: when it's a case that your boss wants you to do overtime, his competitor wants you to move over and there's five headhunters heating your phone, THEN you consider it's time to ask for a raise.
mircea_popescu: when it's a case that you're already fucking tanja, jennifer, rachel and the bubblebutt sisters, and this hottie cinema user begs you to let her come in with you and massage your feet while you watch the movie, and you're too exhausted to think that's a good idea, THEN you start thinking what you prefer, and ditch some of the crowd.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this hallucination of choice, "i am getting none and will tell you what i won't accept" is the universal symptom of elliot-idiocy not just in elliot, but in everyone. AFTER you get MORE than you can handle, THEN you can express preference. not before. never before.