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asciilifeform: horse himself suffers the disadvantage of being edible
mircea_popescu: or maybe the chinese don't ship hay flavoured chips.
BingoBoingo: Mebbe horses provide less useful error messages to the locals? Thusly there were many available horses until they hit the same fate the cars do.
mircea_popescu has had the following unpleasant experience : was going to take whore tribe horseback riding ; called whorelist, "o sure, pick me up ?" ; called horse farms "nope, wounded/gone/booked/etc". HOW!!! could it be harder to get horses than whores!
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Starting to get more attention for them again as my confidence recovers from the past weekend
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/01/26/mcdonalds-the-gringo-gets-his-groove-back/ << Bingo Blog - McDonalds: The Gringo Gets His Groove Back
ben_vulpes: douchebag: ty, fixed
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: or that. ( the difficulty with privkeys-as-prizes is to show that they are in in fact inside the prizebox prior to play )
asciilifeform: e.g. 'make your invalid sig of $item cause my verifier to say 'valid' ' etc.
mircea_popescu: there is that.
asciilifeform: now to revisit upstack, once i describe peh-rsa , and demonstrate signing etc, it will be possible to make straightforward mechanical puzzle for whoever wants to play.
mircea_popescu: how's the cocksuckers BingoBoingo ? apparently moar bloodsuckers.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is correct. which is why we dun have mechanisms judging kochs.
asciilifeform: ifonly this worked for mosquito.
BingoBoingo: Eh, not such a big deal. First weeks the bites itch and then your immune system stops caring and you cease to get quite the histamine reaction to the bites.
asciilifeform: i must admit to BingoBoingo , i have not yet experienced the 'joys' of this insect
BingoBoingo: In other exploits, tonight I will be sleeping in a different bed because axe time gas time has some for the chinches de cama!
a111: Logged on 2018-01-26 16:34 asciilifeform: but conceivably one day there will be an idjit browser that gives obama root on yer box when it sees string 'open sesame'. and what, errybody gotta know in advance to escape 'open sesame', lol ?
asciilifeform: the difference b/w http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-26#1776941 and e.g. koch-rng remains apparent to anybody with half a brain ☝︎
asciilifeform: not that it'd do'em any good.
mircea_popescu: it's ~certainly~ in the list of things they'd spew once put to the question.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-26 18:02 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu for instance prolly knew that one could paste a js into his php thing. but had no particular reason to give a damn
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-26#1777090 << for all you know this is how kock-weimer goes too. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: it's very solvable as stated, but not mechanically. "1. figure out v ; 2. press pehbot ; 3. say intelligent things about it." "intelligent according to whom ?" "intelligent according to me" "how am i supposed to cheat this ?!" "you aren't."
asciilifeform: i dun think that it is solvable as-stated.
asciilifeform: same type of problem.
asciilifeform: and it specifically does not admit room for inclusion by 'failed to spec X'.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the whole thread is re the impossibility of a satisfying spec of any such kind.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: You failed to spec that part. You spec'd pehbot
asciilifeform: just like if a d00d managed to sneak in and steal it, it ain't 'exploit for ffa' . etc
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: let's develop your picture. because it still isn't a complete one . because e.g. knowing the magicpacket for that particular box's nic, is not 'exploit for ffa', it is for $nic.
mircea_popescu: phf o yeah i know you're the fancy playboy type.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Burns down box leaves less to confirm by reading failROM
asciilifeform: coming next, pole vaulting contest where folx hop over the trump tower.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: why not add 'and burns down the box' also.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-26 17:45 douchebag: 1BTC reward? I'm up for that challenge any day
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-26#1777052 << i'd like to make such a challenge. but turns out that we do not even yet have a usable formula for what exactly even is an exploit. << Dude finds way through pehbot commands to replace host machine BIOS with "Hypercard" binary that shipped with OS7 ☝︎
asciilifeform: but even worse -- the type of effort that the work rewards, is exactly the wrong type
asciilifeform: phf: i am at this point nearly convinced that working with www stack -- even moar so than, say, work with retarded children -- is destructive to one's own higher brain
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu for instance prolly knew that one could paste a js into his php thing. but had no particular reason to give a damn ☟︎
asciilifeform: there is the element of surprise , i.e. ' i had nfi that it would do X ' . but this is subjective, and impossible to say in advance that ' you had nfi that it would X '
asciilifeform: 'is this funny'
asciilifeform: it is almost like trying to define humour
a111: Logged on 2018-01-26 17:45 douchebag: 1BTC reward? I'm up for that challenge any day
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-26#1777052 << i'd like to make such a challenge. but turns out that we do not even yet have a usable formula for what exactly even is an exploit. ☝︎
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-26#1776698 << if alf don't wan em, i'll take em ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that wouldn't run js in the log page tho
a111: Logged on 2018-01-26 16:34 asciilifeform: but conceivably one day there will be an idjit browser that gives obama root on yer box when it sees string 'open sesame'. and what, errybody gotta know in advance to escape 'open sesame', lol ?
ben_vulpes is reminded of the doctorow pulp, "human readable"
douchebag: So yeah, people who know what the typical url format is would likely know right away that something is up
douchebag: It could be URL encoded, so they wouldn't really be able to read anything
ben_vulpes: douchebag: so someone sends someone else a link with ?q=<script="diddledepageforme">, and unsuspecting b copies, pastes, reads everything but the url bar?
douchebag: It would all be within the url
douchebag: Basically, the javascript could be used to remove the logs that exist (on the client side mind you), and add in logs that are fake
douchebag: Able to inject Javascript, such javascript could be used to create a link that leads to logs that appear real, however they're completely fake
mircea_popescu: and yes ; but that doesn't make the luddite right in any meaningful sense
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: to carry the analogy, luddite dun care whether clock or orrery, thinks 'gears'
mircea_popescu: well, no, i mean something like "just because it has cogs in it doesn't mean it's a clock, could be a car transmission"
douchebag: 1BTC reward? I'm up for that challenge any day ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: only in so much as the mosquitoes in my backyard have to do with your skin
mircea_popescu: i dunno that any of those has anything to do with my harem tbh.
mod6: the warren jefferies thing?
asciilifeform: recall few yrs back during 1st obummer term, for instance, when they set to work on the remaining ortho-mormons
asciilifeform: ( enemy has a very good idea of the efficacy of the mircea_popescu form of harem org , and tries to burn it down wherever and however the chance presents itself )
asciilifeform: subj lit is so laden with desinfo that asciilifeform has genuinely nfi
mircea_popescu: wants to fuck them himself, and what he can't fuck he kills.
asciilifeform: hm. gotta wonder then, wainot
asciilifeform: i thought this was sop for meatcults
BingoBoingo: AHA, the Family!
mircea_popescu: IN THE SEVENTIES.
mircea_popescu: in vaguely related lulz : there existed a cult which had the girls prostitute themselves for membership. (apparently it was tried with boys too, but it didn't pay.) eventually they just listed them as proper whores with "escort agencies". apparently a total of >quarter million men were made to feel religious however briefly during a decade.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: entirely troo, there are no mechanical prostheses for love, loyalty, honour. the ancients -- knew this.
mircea_popescu: i suspect this is what we are gazing upon in amazement : that slavegirl must ~love~, ie that there is no mechanical solution to the problem.
asciilifeform: or is this a perpetuum mobile.
asciilifeform: specifically such that puzzler specifically rewards the breaking of the proggy, rather than the condition.
asciilifeform: hey mircea_popescu : asciilifeform sat down and tried to make a 'and i'll give you a 1btc prize' puzzler for douchebag re 'break pehbot' . but how to phrase the condition of said puzzle, i am still at a loss, burned half hour nearly.
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-26 05:06 mod6: and it goes back to the same thing as with diana_coman. having two '++' at the front of the line. the way the vdiff is written, when it passes the diffed file off to awk to pattern match the ---|+++ it adds that '+' in the front, then it matches, causing it to call sha512sum.. which is where the false comes from. I think.
asciilifeform: !~later tell mod6 http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-26#1776700 seems to be ye olde http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-11#1581504 inbandism crapola ☝︎☝︎
ben_vulpes: douchebag: how does this allow a user to create fake logs?
mircea_popescu: not the first, but yes, rare.
asciilifeform: ( and lol, this has gotta be the 1st time i hear mircea_popescu refer to a hardcopy of sumthing..? ) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i got a hardbound copy. shall i have it transcribed ?
mircea_popescu: at issue is the resumption of a redeemable currency in fact, through payments in specie, supported by new york alone and firmly opposed by our good friends in http://trilema.com/2018/the-principal-agent-problem-or-how-america-went-away/#footnote_9_77193 (ie, 2nd national bank and the wide array of western and southern banks dependent upon it. because guess who brought you slavery in the sense of financing it ? oh yeah, the re
asciilifeform: got text ? or does one have to go to nyc and break into a museum to get it
mircea_popescu: in entirely unrelated lulz : i recommend to the expert entomologist item #341 of the assembly of the state of new york, entered into record april 12, 1838 (a message from W L Marcy, the governor).
mircea_popescu: not if it works to deliver the results above ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: sticking to wwwtardism stack is not a manifestation of learnedhelplessness ?
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 19:52 phf: i can see the education angle, and how it fails these people, but what i'm surprised about is the lack of personal drive? it's some kind of learned helplessness
asciilifeform: how's that? i dungetit
mircea_popescu: well... didn't the problem appear misstated originally ?
asciilifeform: why is this a whatnow
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform admire the recursive gift : his "reputation in the community" doth indeed grow. what now.
mircea_popescu: but, take heart douchebag : there's not that many people your age that can say "hey, i sent mp to meditation room" ; and they're overwhelmingly female to boot.
asciilifeform: a flounder in epoxy , then.
mircea_popescu: i suppose the workings of this insane nut posse must be quite disconcerting to the professional. "i told this guy he had an xss hole in some file and he proceeded to sign an unrelated snippet of javascript".
mircea_popescu: in the future, it can be mecanicized.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i didn't expect it'd work mechanically ; but there it is now.
asciilifeform waits for mircea_popescu to scream in 'joy' when he finds that not 1 attempt at any such pgpsig verifies, on account of newline mutilation in www stack
mircea_popescu: // motherfucker who comes up with this shit