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mp_en_viaje: phf, how's
this apply
to
the "ima photograph missile silo" set for instance ?
mp_en_viaje: he may be right, but it was not
that in argentina,
those fuckfaces have 0 capital.
phf: mp_en_viaje: new biostock, but rarely invents anything new, mostly just copies something
they read in a magazine
they found in
the attic
trinque: "why,
they sit at a big
table in a skyscraper and shout 'business!' at each other"
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, ro consul here
thinks its a lot of you know, money laundering.
trinque: I would've said
this in jest of soviet perceptions of AMERICA (TM)
mp_en_viaje: phf, i suspect
this nver happens, "evolve into one another". seems
t ome it'salways 100% new biostock
trinque: lol what do
they do in americaland, "buy and sell stocks, and drive cab"
mp_en_viaje: but
there's plenty of other
things. utterly inept real estate market, exact same
thingas buenos aires -- 500k+ units on market, high prices for no reason, 500 close a yeat at MOST, rest happy
to wait.
phf: oh yeah, scenes have
that property discussed in
thread about opensource, once it's named it's over. i'm actually more interested not in
the scenes
themselves, but in how
they evolve one into another and how differrent scenes influence each other. something dies, gets replaced by some mutation of something else resurrected, or rediscovered, etc. etc. etc.
mp_en_viaje: and when i
tell
the girly
there "when you are
told
to get cab you get cab" she had BUTS in her schedule!
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, girl called desk
to call me a cab. desk wanted
to know where it's going. insistently. when
they didn't get what
they want,
they OPTED NOT
TO DO WHAT
TOLD.
mp_en_viaje: i suspect
the sheer size of
town may have deleterious effects. "go over 5mn pop at your fucken peril
mp_en_viaje: in no case is
the farc-ready colombian any kind of argentino dickless "letrado".
mp_en_viaje: i have a new
theory by
the way. so bogota is ~8mn inhabitants. and
there's DISTINCT signs of argentinetardation. but i mean itemized, multiple strands, quite visible. eyt
the folk
themselves aren't at all similar, not fenotypically nor culturally.
BingoBoingo: Not at all, but it imagines it is a place
that can keep enough Brasileros happy
to not
turn into a small Argnetina
mp_en_viaje: t
think anyone imagines uruguay can be genoa of 2020.
mp_en_viaje: spiderman got bit by a strange bottle, right ? it wasn't a prepubescent girly some dood in british academia was
trying not
to actually fuck. it was spiderman!
mp_en_viaje: it's not physically possible, you know,
to have
the same silly "informationsuperhighway" wank
today. scenes are usually borne of specific ignorances which permit specific hopes
to flourish. so
today its photorecon-parkour and self-administered drmengele.
BingoBoingo: The great geopolitical risk is
that
the stoners do
to Uruguay what
the
trannies are doing
to USia... a malignant species of nothing
phf: oh yeah, but again, slowed down, because of analog regulations. 5 years or so you had all
these labs popping up,
tweaking common chemicals (like ketamine into methoxetamine)
mp_en_viaje: it's sad in
that it will go strictly nowhere, but... what can you do.
mp_en_viaje: whole lotta "what does
this potion do" self-experimentation.
mp_en_viaje: arguably
the other scene is
the chemhipsters.
BingoBoingo: <mp_en_viaje> here, not so far smelled any. no visible intoxication, no methgirls... << Here lots of cannabis and
they discovered edibles so you see a lot of intoxication without
the smell. Only
they very poor and New Zealanders seem
to seek out stims.
phf: but i
think
that it died on
the
tail end of "asians who were all black outfits made of space materials", which is a kind of postcyberpunk
think
that happened in
the 00s.
mp_en_viaje: dc is a shithole. but... i dunno, im unconvinced by
the
theory "kids
today" = ded.
the mass is about as motile as a fish in vinegar, yes. but ..
they always were.
phf: actually i don't know! i'm in a bad place, spatially, DC is literally
the worst place
to keep
tabs on
this kind of stuff. everything seems dead, but i know if i were
to just
travel
two hours north
there's going
to be updates on what's happening
mp_en_viaje: phf, why do you
think it died ? going by what, some measure of www activity /
phf: well,
that's good, cause
then i can relax for a bit!
mp_en_viaje: much like you know,
the 0day/elecart scene was
THE scene mid 90s
phf: there was
that russian
team
that was breaking into scyscapers in jetsetter cities and
taking risky pictures, but i
think
that died with
the rubble crash
mp_en_viaje: well "when did i
tstart" is always an iffy q. but
to my mind
that's
the current scene.
BingoBoingo: <mp_en_viaje>
they seem 100% unaware us exists. at all. "americano" strictly means newworlder and other
than
this
there is 0 reference. anywhere. << AHA,
this weekend I heave heard
the word "gringo" more
than any other
time so far because a New Zealander
tried
to insist he and I are gringos
to a couple of Chilenas, and
they Chilenas had
to keep
telling him BingoBoingo es un gringo, pero
the New Zealander was just a very
tall, pale asian
phf: oh right right,
that was a while ago
though, i suspect
that photographing ue for livejournal has been a decade long activity.
they've just been increasing
the boldness
mp_en_viaje: they're fewer by headcount
than
the "erryone empowered" stuff in
the 90s, granted. but it may be better quality.
mp_en_viaje: hm. iirc we even had
them in
the logs. here's our run of chernobyl here;s our run of nevada nuclear missil base etc
phf: there's a strange lul in
the scene, because necessary aged youngsters are glued
to ipads. and i'm not just being an old grandpa,
there's literally a whole generation missing at
the outside activities
trinque pulled a rack and couple servers out of
the
trash behind some biotech lab when ~16
mp_en_viaje apologizes for
the approximated spelling. new kbd.
mp_en_viaje: i
think
the
thing now is "run
through abandoned in fac
tbut not on books mil bases,
take pics".
phf: which was convenient since i didn't really know
the area at all
phf: yeah,
those guys would organize dumpster diving runs
phf: well, it's because you went
there for content :> i was doing socializing with americans and such
phf: there was a fat guy at 2600 meetups in dc (in crystal city, which are unfortunately no more), who was doing infosec for mil and who always had cool
toys. i mean coming from moscow in
the 90s, all
these people casually showing off
the $3000 equipment,
talking of dumpster diving whole computers, it was kind of like moving into
The Hackers. culture ~completely~ dead
mp_en_viaje: by
the
time you're stuck forcing yourself on zee maids you've got other problems should be attending
to anyway ; and one can always buy his own breakfast.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> what exactly is 'ada apache' ? << Done right prolly something similar
to lig
httpd without
the C
a111: Logged on 2017-03-22 23:43 asciilifeform: btw maybe pete_dushenski can
tell me
the seekrit of how
to get 'lombard'
to eat an ssd.
BingoBoingo: <mp_en_viaje> i can sadly report
that ye olde days of raping
the chambermaids and somon fumee buffet breakfast are all gone. << Butt
the accents are clear and
they open
their mouths
to speak!
phf: and a powermac g4,
that i haven't booted in a while. i'm pretty sure it has netbsd on it
though
phf: i don't remember specific designators, a g3 ibook
that was a hand me down when i was poor and just came
to
this country, a g4 powerbook
that i bought since it was "last model
to run os 9", a wallstreet
that someone game recently (i like
the "my name is
the plague" kind of feel
to it, but have no use for it)
phf: "walther ppk, 7.65 millimetre. only
three men i know use such a gun and i believe i've killed
two of
them."
mp_en_viaje: means all sorts of other
thngs. pockt pc, payperclick, etc
phf: i suspect mp knows what powerpc is, in logs frequently, but
the common abbreviation is rarely used
ben_vulpes: doubtful, all
the girls out here spend all day on
twitter
triggering
themselves.
mp_en_viaje: how many feckless usgistani boys in business school
tell listless, confused girlies from ohio
they're saudi princes i could not guess. bu
the fambly itself is under 2k.
ben_vulpes: hey it was a nice one!!1 "don't laugh, it's paid in full" or whatever
that bumper sticker says
ben_vulpes: few, but how many princelings are now running around.
the nissans are saved for
the poorest, who don't even get into nyu.
mp_en_viaje: ITS A FUCKING NISSAN FFS. seems
to me you just deliverd my point right
there.
ben_vulpes: certainly, golden age of individual prince has long since passed, but
the sheer number of
them running around are such
that
they even raise
the hackles of normally entirely diversity++
towns like portland, with
the all-reflective nissans etc
mp_en_viaje: ben_vulpes, conceivably.
tho
the golden age of saudi prince seem more like 80s.
ben_vulpes: mp_en_viaje: well
they didn't offset
the costs of eleventy
thousand princelings while
the spigots were open...
mp_en_viaje: i've not seen any. i suspect drug reports
to be greatly exagerated
mp_en_viaje: they seem 100% unaware us exists. at all. "americano" strictly means newworlder and other
than
this
there is 0 reference. anywhere.
mp_en_viaje: btw asciilifeform you might enjoy columbia for
the following unexpected property :
mp_en_viaje: losses are a product of optionality. wtf optinality does saudi have ? if
they don't sell it
they could also... sell it ? o wow. such options.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-26 23:54 asciilifeform:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-26#1777305 << 'One of Japan’s biggest cryptocurrency exchanges said
that about $400 million in NEM
tokens ...' >> asciilifeform was replacing a ceiling light and lost a screw, which he arbitrarily will value at 500
trillion unified reformed dubloons
mp_en_viaje: your item is worth $0, everything you get for it is green, get off
the "losses" nonsense.
mp_en_viaje: no, but
this is fantasy fullfillment wank among
the girls
themselves, "oh,
the gringo paid gordita x 599 and i'm so much better
then her so every
time i suck it for a 20 i lose out 579". rrrrrheheheheally.