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mircea_popescu: sure they can. you can have the whole thing shipped there in one go.
asciilifeform: now the cost of filling 12 rack slots with as much cpu horse as they can hold, (using asciilifeform's method, rather than mircea_popescu's, if not clear from context) would be such : 32 cores of opteron @ 3GHz, 256GB ram, 1TB durable ssd, comes to 1600 per 1U machine; no more than 4 machines can travel in a cargo carried by a 1300 two-way ticket
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo himself costs 311(desk) + 350(hostel) + 600(food) per mo; his rack : 2834.06 ; total ~4096 (nice an' round!11) to stay above waterline ( all units above in heathenbux )
mircea_popescu: what the fuck mess of reference will this be in the future ?
mircea_popescu: lol, the man that hates writing articles on his blog.
asciilifeform: i'ma substitute in 350 for the hostel cost, iirc it was close to this
asciilifeform: grr there's a missing param,
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform explaining the thought process in detail will prolly be useful.
asciilifeform: mod6: i was about to expand
mod6: Any thoughts on what this 1 year cost would be?
asciilifeform back from the calculation mines, and regrets to inform that he does not have the juice with which to power a year of BingoBoingotron , and will not be submitting bid, unless someone l1 ( phf? ) were to want to co-own.
mod6: you were looking for a trilema article?
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/02/unilever-perpares-to-stop-feeding-facebook-and-google/ << Qntra - Unilever Prepares To Stop Feeding Facebook And Google
hanbot: why did the anarchist bookstore go out of business? wh
deedbot: http://thewhet.net/2018/02/blinks-abroad/ << The Whet - Blinks abroad
shinohai: Apparently, half the uk gov websites too: https://twitter.com/Scott_Helme/status/962684239975272450
BingoBoingo: If I am headed out of here I would at least like the chance to more overtly spread machismo and racismo on the way out.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-11 16:34 asciilifeform is not asleep, but in fact still calculating whether he has enuff fuel to take, theoretically, BingoBoingo's rocket to orbit, or only to make larger crater on the ground
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-11#1783278 << There are no problems waiting through tomorrow. Probably until Wednesday even since the city is shut down for Carnaval. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: they figure it lends weight to their otherwise weightless speech.
mircea_popescu: eh, took my foot. this is the stock in trade of the pantsuit rhetorics, "i am crying" "it took me X" etc.
shinohai: The best part is it took her 2 whole weeks to formulate a reply
BingoBoingo: WTF, She opened with... A negotiation on term!
mircea_popescu: upon reflection, it does seem canadians have rather more issues than is average for esltards.
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2018/02/11/trade-warz/ << Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - Trade warz.
asciilifeform is not asleep, but in fact still calculating whether he has enuff fuel to take, theoretically, BingoBoingo's rocket to orbit, or only to make larger crater on the ground ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: very fallout flavour to it.
diana_coman: obv, there should also be in principle a speed-up because of cutting off the "now word-> bits" part but that's sort of bonus the way I see it
diana_coman: so when it's bits it's bits only, when it's octets there's no bits
diana_coman: as that's the trouble in the first place
diana_coman: what I don't really see the point for is the mixing bit + octet basically
diana_coman: but obviously, matching the set of choices that we fix
diana_coman: well, the bit-level implementation can and will remain
mircea_popescu: i kinda liked the fiction that we have a bit-level something.
diana_coman: going with 1.1, 2.1 and 3.2 also takes out entirely from keccak the bit-to-value and value-to-bit conversions ; input is a stream of octets, output is a stream of octets and keccak itself works at word level anyway
a111: Logged on 2018-02-08 17:47 diana_coman: mircea_popescu, well, if input+output are considered at octet level, there is a case to say that reading out of the state is also done at octet level; I'll mull this over a bit longer re speed as such (for the word-level implementation because the bit-level is just as slow either way)
a111: Logged on 2018-02-08 17:01 mircea_popescu: diana_coman seems to me on the first pass the winning combo is 1.1 / 2.1 / 3.1 ; the phf objection to bit meaning precludes anything else it seems to me ; with the exception that won't bit-extraction (3.1) be particularly slow ?
diana_coman: on http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-08#1782802 and http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-08#1782813 <- the more I think about this the more it seems to me that there is no point for bit-level extraction from state either; basically if bit notion doesn't make sense then why have it at extraction anyway; I think the choices would be 1.1, 2.1 and 3.2; as to the bit order for the output at the end of the day that is a convention too so it needs only to ☝︎☝︎
BingoBoingo: I'll get some lunch while I wait to see what the aspiring next worry allocator's bid is to get me to stay in Montevideo.
mircea_popescu: capitalism is nothing if not the piecemeal management of worry into manageable pieces.
mircea_popescu: so then let your boss worry about his worries.
BingoBoingo: I have a lot to learn before trusting myself much with the self direction is what this past week has been beating into me.
BingoBoingo: It is why I am inclined for alf to solicit pete_dushenski or another more experienced manager as either a consultant or partner if he is interested in taking over.
BingoBoingo: That management need matches with the learnings of the past week, which... I retrospect I can see in my entire time here.
mircea_popescu: the reason i'm cutting you out is because we have very poor fit, i'm a "provide general guidance and hangings" sort of manager and you evidently need a mommy, to check whether you packed your lunch and to ask if you need to pee every so often. should you find one you can certainly thrive, but you've not found her in me is all. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i dunno if as a kid you ever did those things where "oh, if i had time machine, what'd i carry into past to be rich" a la http://trilema.com/2012/the-seven-pillars/ say, but this is just about exactly that. space is time, you know.
mircea_popescu: the exact same holds re your overhead there. you have an office and so on that costs 1/10 or less of what it'd cost had a fiatola scampany carried it on its own books ; and the matter continues -- if we get a semi fulla 2u chassis in, we will have a pile chassis worth 2x what we paid for them due to the barriers the ineptitude of orcs place in our favour.
mircea_popescu: the world is anywhere near. let's keep things in perspective, depressed or not.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo what your lack of experience isn't informing you is that you have a very significant advantage. your ~7k per annum cost compares very VERY favorable to what empire pays to hire a walmart drone (25k or so base + 20k or so in overload). the walmart drone costs 6x what you do, and i daresay they do not do 1/6th of what you do. just because you came out short of lordship in the field does not now mean the baseline of ☟︎
mircea_popescu: now that out of the way, let's handle bb.
mircea_popescu: i don't imagine there's other bids ; but if there are feel free to put a time limit on your bid and we see. i certainly see no problem with the matter being disposed by nightfall.
mircea_popescu: either of these under the firm condition that if at a later point bb has to fly out, it won't come to me.
mircea_popescu: alternatively, i have no problem taking say 1.5 worth of absolutely senior convertible equity in your continuant venture, however you call it. ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: the economic value of the item as it stands would be about .80 ; i'd take that in cash today.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so he has like 20 bitcents in cash, plus whatever's left of the start of month 2k fiats + about 6k of credit with providers (pro-rata for what's left of two months).
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo it's not that expensive, simmer down.
BingoBoingo: So if anyone really wants my monkeyland mess, there is some time to think about it.
BingoBoingo: So, if anyone wants to take on an expensive, high risk corpse of a venture at almost certain substantial loss in BTC value... I'll be here at least a few days, probably a week, maybe even the end of the month before heading back to the land of petrocheese.
BingoBoingo: And further mind a brief investigation of the local labor market yielded: http://archive.is/Hp01G#selection-3125.0-3125.286 "Una buena empresa donde trabajar si uno quiere desarrollarse, ya que siempre hay nuevas oportunidades. Se aprende una forma de trabajo completamente diferente a la que uno está acostumbrado en Uruguay. La gente que tiene uno a su lado es en el 99 % increíble. Es lo que mas se destaca."
BingoBoingo: And any potential saviors looking for a vanity project ought to mind that likely the best thing for my health and reputation is going to be returning to familiar AA meetings and the humble, anonymous life working in a hardware store.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu is appears to be increasingly tired of propping up on his own.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-10 14:58 mircea_popescu: more generally : i do not perceive any sort of future for the republic without an isp.
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-10#1783157 << On this point, taking a lot more explicit direction... perhaps from an alf pete_dushenski partnership, where my role becomes more hired hand than self directed center of the brand. I mention pete_dushenski because of his lack of toxic US passport and apparent management experience. I have my doubts alf alone is sufficient to right this ship, but if pete_dushenki wants try saving the republic ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-02-10 14:48 mircea_popescu: i did try throughout, up to and including yesterday, to somehow compensate for the various issues, but eventually the time comes for the observation that the situation you created for yourself there is not actually tenable. spend your remaining cash on your plane ticket out, we're putting an end here to this well meaning but ultimately ineffectual effort.
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-10#1783155 << After a night of meditation, sleeping, and taking in the local culture at the Desfile de Las Llamadas, "well meaning but ultimately ineffectual" is probably my best possible exit from this situation. ☝︎
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/scott-pilgrim-vs-the-world/ << Trilema - Scott Pilgrim vs the World
mircea_popescu: ima have to merge these now. why's nobody said anything ;/
mircea_popescu: whoa, so it turns out that besides http://trilema.com/2016/republican-thesaurus-with-vocabulary-and-dictionary there actually existed all along a http://trilema.com/2017/the-new-and-improved-republican-glossaurus/ !
trinque: pete_dushenski: all set, must've been tired eyeballs indeed.
phf: it was pretty quite until i started installing gnat, but then it kept on spinning. i'm not going to investigate right now
trinque: hm, dunno then.
phf: i can probably put that machine on ssh, but it's been sitting in a closet and wildly spinning the fans, so i wonder if there's something i need to tweak in openbsd to keep it from doing that..
phf: and here's a simple hack to verify that the machine is in fact BE, http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/W0EhS/?raw=true
phf: diana_coman: output from powerpc g4, openbsd, identical to what x86 machine produces http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/nLkau/?raw=true
pete_dushenski: but harvard has all the presteej donchaknow
shinohai: pete_dushenski: At least goes to show smarter than the Harvard idjuts mining Doge that time.
pete_dushenski: http://archive.is/x9LpT << anglo spin. obv references to stalin because have to put all evils in one soup. sloshy slosh!
pete_dushenski: trinque: any luck with the non-expiring pubkeys ?
BingoBoingo: Anyways, going to go to see the local blackface Carnival parade tonight. Hopefully I get better at the night time photography thing.
BingoBoingo: At any sort of density, even with 125 Watt processors that is a lot of hardware to risk (in terms of RAM and heat sensitive SSDs)
BingoBoingo: That is the only long game I had been seeing which might justify continuing the adventure. Especially considering THIS is the local webhosting competition https://www.netuy.net/hosting.linux.uruguay.php?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIlpvT_4qc2QIVkYKRCh0msAP1EAAYASAAEgKVU_D_BwE
mircea_popescu: (saneland here technically is taiwan or somesuch, i expect, but anyway)
mircea_popescu: then in 20 years important worms can hurr durr about how you "stole" your fortune (from the "less advantaged" who "had fewer oppportunities") because, ohohohobiously, "all capital is theft".
mircea_popescu: ow it's half what they thought it costs, neh, not to mention nobody else has it. free monopoly granted you through stupidity.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-10 15:18 asciilifeform: iirc idea was , when originally proposed by mircea_popescu , for it to be +ev in ~year
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-10#1783178 << for the sake of it being said, nominally all difficulties are naught moar than more proffit opportunities. if you get organized to import all the shit the dc MUST have but did not in fact have, you have yet another revenue stream ready. pay $150 per chassis in saneland, plus $30 or so in shipping, sell them the dozen for 3300 (+ "iva") -- which hey, is a GREAT fucking deal seeing h ☝︎
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/02/10/the-photos-from-places-between-the-places/ << Bingo Blog - The Photos From Places Between The Places
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo so go sleep, there's little you can do this saturday anyway. we see tomorro.
BingoBoingo: As fucking disappointing as the locals are, I still prefer being off the reservation. If asciilifeform can promise the fuel to continue Hostel + Desk + $20 daily per diem to not starve... BingoBoingo is going to take time and think himself... After blogging the other pics from the yesterday walk.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I am not opposed to taking alfdebt in favor of mircea_popescu debt minding that the mircea_popescu debt comes first unless alf makes other arrangements with mircea_popescu. And also that a substantial part of the +EV involves BingoBoingo does things alf will find very disgusting to a few boxes in order to sell shared hosting. Think of how alf directed venture with PCengines 8 to the 1U as opposed to VPS for small
asciilifeform: i'ma back tomorrow; still in the process of last iteration of 'do what mircea_popescu told'
mircea_popescu: yes yes. do what i told you, i don't say these things out of boredom. then we'll see.
asciilifeform: well let's first see 1) is there sale 2) does BingoBoingo include himself , then 3) is there buy
mircea_popescu: you certainly don't have to buy him from me in any case o.O
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: That isn't anything to sell. You would be financing BingoBoingo's increasingly uncertain adventure. Or coming down here personally meeting BingoBoingo and seeing if Latecho will transfer the contract to you before the end of February.
asciilifeform: well this stump comes with an emplaced pair of l1 hands
mircea_popescu: yes, but that was an idea, and the idea lives equally well everywhere. you don't have to implement it on this particular stump in preference of any other.
asciilifeform: iirc idea was , when originally proposed by mircea_popescu , for it to be +ev in ~year ☟︎
mircea_popescu: otherwise what the hell are you buying, "the rights" ? come feb 25th or so the item is worth ~0.
mircea_popescu: well carcasses have to be bought on the spot, they rot.