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ben_vulpes: i am going to go do the dishes, rageclean, watch a movie and bask in the cutefield.
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-12-2015#1353741 << if i'm reading this thread correctly, this problem is directly traceable to tools used to jam ascii into dpaste.com et al? ☝︎
ben_vulpes: not i
mircea_popescu: i hope it burns, alf!
mircea_popescu: o wait he was kidding ? i r disappoint.
mircea_popescu: i posted with curl
mircea_popescu: i get what he gets.
mircea_popescu: i know this!
mircea_popescu: it just so happened that the boundary split the 0a from the 0d in the 2nd case but not in the first, so as to appear matching what i put in there.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's whatg i mean.
asciilifeform: i may or may not get around to it.
asciilifeform: nah i don't expect anybody to implement it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i still dunno how you figure someone ELSE is going to implement this thing for you, but anyway.
mircea_popescu: i've had it. two hexdumps. for the love of chrissakes.
mircea_popescu: i didn't mean by me.
ben_vulpes: i couldn't rule out curl hosing my experiments, mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: how the everloving fuck am i getting different byte counts
mircea_popescu: which is what i put in there. /r/n ; /n
asciilifeform: 0a0d << i'll fix mine when you discover how to fix yours ?
mircea_popescu: i gotta try this now.
asciilifeform: (i'm not even certain that this is possible given browser)
asciilifeform: (all that remains is for anybody to give a fuck and write proggy. i'm presently occupied.)
asciilifeform: i want to ./foo | curl blah
asciilifeform: because it doesn't multiply the work i have to do 100x !!!
asciilifeform: i might, if nobody else does.
asciilifeform: because i sure as fuck ain't pressing a hundred buttons
asciilifeform: where i can, e.g., './foo.pl | pastebinatron' and get a link
asciilifeform: we were, i think, talking about a 'pastebin'
asciilifeform: i can't pipe text into archive.is from a shell !!
pete_dushenski: "The only eyewitness identifications that I can find speak of three white men." http://www.unz.com/article/what-really-happened-in-san-bernardino/ << funny, y'know i also recall the early reports being "shooting by three white men in army fatigues" or some such.
assbot: Logged on 26-12-2015 04:48:32; phf: i think it's ascii's purity concern, rather then space as such. why host someone else's graffiti, etc.
phf: i think it's ascii's purity concern, rather then space as such. why host someone else's graffiti, etc. ☟︎
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: the latter was the gavinalert thing and i killed it long ago, yes
pete_dushenski: mnope. that one has a larger breadth than contravex trb timleline part i could handle. maybe in part ii.
ben_vulpes: i saw material factual mistakes and kinda checked out.
pete_dushenski: who do you think i am ?
ben_vulpes: i'd love to hear how he got the mysterious, yes phriendz, rolled in.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i think pete_dushenski was trying to write a history of trb ?
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: pretty sure he brought it up in 2013 not long after i started reading
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform ben_vulpes et al. i also found an even ~earlier~ mention by mircea_popescu of the "0.6.x is the last useable version" line in the sand : http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-02-2014#499837 ☝︎
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell mod6 my pleasure and thanks for the correction. i was confusing december 19th entries, it seems. i've updated that section of the trb timeline accordingly.
assbot: It's Not OK, OkCupid • I just hope my fetish with cheese does not disturb... ... ( http://bit.ly/1NGa2il )
mircea_popescu: http://itsnotokokcupid.tumblr.com/post/29832079161/i-just-hope-my-fetish-with-cheese-does-not-disturb << this goes straight to BingoBoingo
asciilifeform: http://thewhet.net/2015/what-is-a-supermarket << somehow i missed this
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ;;later tell BingoBoingo is anybody gonna qntra the juniper crud ? << If they want to. I dunno if I can do it justice.
thestringpuller: I attempted to create an insane robot, and I succeeded.
thestringpuller: I have one in my basement.
thestringpuller: well i guess I'm moving my nodes to google cloud
asciilifeform: when rackspace starts handing out vm to reddit k00l d00dz for a penny/hour, i'll ban it.
mircea_popescu: i actually support throwing a spoke or three in the expectation of jwz that "struff works"
assbot: I'll pay for your tits on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1MQMd6w )
mircea_popescu: honestly, in my mind i realise now, gpg --clearisng has taken over a hole left by telex.
mircea_popescu: i lived just fine with telex.
mircea_popescu: to put it sanely-er : i'm more than happy to redefine "ascii" for clearsign to include a subset of ascii
asciilifeform: but in no case could i be ~guaranteed~ of signing an arbitrary ascii string without mutilation
mircea_popescu: for all you know i do read it in a byte editor.
mircea_popescu: more importantly, anyone bored can kill themselves figuring out why the fuck i have to do two passes of sed interspersed with a grep to get the dumbass thing to work as intended.
asciilifeform: this whole discussion, every time we have it, really mirrors in my mind the debates i've had with greyhaired non-programming folk who insisted on 'one day we will program in NATURAL LANGUAGE!11111'
asciilifeform: and i still insist that the 'clearness' of 'clearsign' is a jwzism. NO YOU CAN'T actually read the payload 'without tools'. yes, you can put it to a line printer, and get a human-readable page. BUT it will not be WHAT YOU SIGNED! not bitwise, and not mandatorily, and therefore not at all.
ben_vulpes: i am just looking for a sane balance between toilet for the mob and useful tool for the wot.
asciilifeform: or sign every scrap of paper i put in the shredder
ben_vulpes: that i understand.
asciilifeform: i don't want to need to imprint turds with a seal before flushing.
asciilifeform: i don't want to replace my toilet with an authenticated one, either, y'know ?
mircea_popescu: what am i to be like one of those us military base commanders that can't run a quarter mile ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i gotta keep up with you young folk!
mircea_popescu: i want it to match /start/ not start
mircea_popescu: you understand, i hope you do but if you don't i'll explain it, that the only - THE ONLY - reason for literacy is so you can read contracts.
mircea_popescu: i can't read tar.
assbot: Logged on 25-12-2015 21:29:42; mircea_popescu: thinking about it : the one thing i like about dpaste in preference of uploading files is that i don't have to provide a filename.
mircea_popescu: honestly, i started using it in b-a. it is, for me, a replacement of email.
assbot: Logged on 25-12-2015 21:08:22; mircea_popescu: in short, i wisened up to the fact that this particular thing is of the "go big or go home" variety and insistence on peculiar versions of small are a waste of time.
mircea_popescu: so i said.
asciilifeform: i don't sign my farts either.
asciilifeform: and i don't see any reason to sign a disposable, ephemeral turd.
assbot: Logged on 25-12-2015 20:38:47; ben_vulpes: punkman, mircea_popescu, asciilifeform: destestable though they may be for injecting state into the stateless protocol, would a single "signin" page with an assbot-style decryption of OTP that results in a session key authenticating the user to the perlwad be an improvement, and are there better solutions i'm not considering? anonymous drive-by pasting is not a better solution imho.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-12-2015#1353073 << not for any of my use cases. i wanna paste from a shell without unsheathing my pgptron ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 25-12-2015 20:35:32; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-12-2015#1353048 << no. this is a color of bits issue ; i couldn't care less what the technological constraints [appear to] be. a contract is a single item, not a text and a separate signature.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-12-2015#1353065 << 'v' lives and dies by detached signatures. and i'm not implementing payload mutilation in 'p.' and i won't be using anything that mutilates payloads if i can help it, ever. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: "And this worked really well for foursquare thanks to the mayorship. If I tell someone I’m the mayor of a spot, I’m in an instant conversation: “What makes you the mayor?” “That’s lame, I’m there way more than you” “What do you get for being mayor?”. Compare that to talking about Gowalla: “I just swapped this sticker of a bike for a sticker of a six pack of beer! What? Yes, I am still a virgin”.
ben_vulpes: jurov: why'd i not be?
jurov: i suspect ben_vulpes is not up for that kind of latrine anyway :D
jurov: i'm not hellbound to having it. my idea was to accept anything, signed or not, make it available for a week, and put older pastes behind a paywall
mircea_popescu: the thing i fucking hate about dpaste is the dumbass "select data type" and that they think text is "plain text" and starts with a p.\
mircea_popescu: thinking about it : the one thing i like about dpaste in preference of uploading files is that i don't have to provide a filename. ☟︎
ben_vulpes: which is why i think it should be hammered out and left alone at the earliest possible moment.
ben_vulpes: anyways jurov if i had an inkling that someone would do it besides myself i'd not have done it in the first place. if you want the thing on your plate, lmk, otherwise if you have an obvious solution you're not holding out for paste-opoly also let me know.
mircea_popescu: kinda why i stuck it in there - bitcoin has deeper roots than commonly realised.
jurov: oooooh. i wanted to see your megasuperdevstack in action, tho
ben_vulpes: all i want is a prophylactic against crlfs.
jurov: maybe i'll act on it myself, so i won't say now. but it's quite obvious.
jurov: ben_vulpes: i'd say you are going at it in wrong direction
mircea_popescu: either that or befriending more adults, i guess.
mircea_popescu: in short, i wisened up to the fact that this particular thing is of the "go big or go home" variety and insistence on peculiar versions of small are a waste of time. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: <mircea_popescu> ben_vulpes i do not think you should. !
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i do not think you should.
ben_vulpes: so riddle me this: why the everloving fuck *should* i make any tool usable for anyone outside of my wot?
ben_vulpes: yes well clearly when we actually have gossipd auth i can wash my hands of auth too.
mircea_popescu: i like registrars like i like microsoft.
ben_vulpes: if so i would like an introduction to this registrar, they sound like good people to know