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phf: err, that's UTC
phf: PSA: btcbase is going to be down for half hour, tomorrow 2018-02-21 sometime between 19:00 to 20:30
mircea_popescu: well... mazel tov
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, the first error I find in my published code, yes; there was the mpi error I corrected, previously
mircea_popescu: diana_coman is that like the first ?
shinohai: ty trinque
trinque: shinohai: nothing wrong, just wait time can be up to 24hrs, and yesterday was busybusy. I'll get to ya this morning.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> that's what i like about idiots, that they're determinedly idiotic. rarely you run into amateurs, it's generally pros all the way. << "expert beginners"
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/02/having-dumped-dratel-ulbricht-continues-facing-grim-trial-aftermath/ << Qntra - Having Dumped Dratel Ulbricht Continues Facing Grim Trial Aftermath
mircea_popescu: but... they didn't use it, and it doesn't work anymore, and they're quite happy together.
mircea_popescu: you'd think someone'd notice if a tool they actually used went away.
shinohai always rather enjoyed it, sort of a treasure hunt of facts if you will.
mircea_popescu: and it shows ; google has become, steadily but acceleratingly, worthless for research. i pointed this out, but the sum total of pantsuit complaints, summed again to the closest integer, is also zero.
shinohai: I don't think people do any actual research anymore tbh.
mircea_popescu: the sum total of "internet users" from the "informatrion superhighway" who sat down at any point since 2016 going "hmm... i wonder what my opinion of this hanno bock character should be. let's do some research..." is, rounded to the closest integer, zero.
mircea_popescu: sure ; meanwhile consider this : the article the fetlife bot keeps linking to the fetlife tards ISNT in the top 20 of the month.
shinohai: Ghehehe, Google "Hanno Bock" and http://trilema.com/2016/psa-hanno-bock-still-a-deceitful-shitbag/ is still in top 5 results :)
mircea_popescu: argentina, too.
mircea_popescu: that's what i like about idiots, that they're determinedly idiotic. rarely you run into amateurs, it's generally pros all the way.
mircea_popescu: schmuck will actually take the time to boot off a different interface, will however NOT take the time to address why he got banned in the first place.
shinohai: trinque: plz to check my deedbot tx when you awaken and ensure I didn't bork something? Thank you.
mod6: I'm gonna try again with a different browser.
mod6: I'm finding it hard to paste my things into there.
mod6: <+ben_vulpes> mod6: be so kind as to comment on the post, my good man << alright, cool.
mircea_popescu: certainly for low sums like this
a111: Logged on 2018-02-17 21:13 ben_vulpes: i would also like to deposit these funds with a non-involved individual to seal in blood the capitalization of this entity
a111: Logged on 2018-02-20 04:12 mircea_popescu: im guessing the manager holds on to them ? or yuou want a separate treasurer ?
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-20#1785233 << http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-17#1784554 << treasurer still wanted, but i'll do the duties if nobody steps up; actually strikes me as a core responsibility of the manager of a bitcoin company ☝︎☝︎
ben_vulpes: mod6: be so kind as to comment on the post, my good man
mod6: mircea_popescu: That might be something for us to consider, I do believe that ben_vulpes said he would handle this himself, at least for now. I guess there no reason why one couldn't be brought on later if the labor involved in that becomes to great for the operations manager.
mod6: (That's all I've got for now, other than those things, looks pretty good to me ben_vulpes. Nice work!)
mircea_popescu: im guessing the manager holds on to them ? or yuou want a separate treasurer ? ☟︎
mod6: Question 4: Where should mod6's and asciilifeform's, and whatever remaining Bitcoin Foundation funds be sent? Do we need a public address to pay these to?
mod6: mircea_popescu: thanks for your guidence here.
mod6: Ah, alright. Maybe there should be a line in there about that, and perhaps unanimous decision required. Or something of the kind.
mircea_popescu: mod6 traditionally board membership changes are voted by the board.
mod6: asciilifeform, BingoBoingo, ben_vulpes, mircea_popescu, any one else, feel free to weigh in on any of my Q's here.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> sure, when bonds convert, same as everyone << Sounds fine to me.
mod6: "asciilifeform, mod6, and the chairmen of The Bitcoin Foundation will each appoint one board member, hire ben_vulpes to manage Pizarro, and hire BingoBoingo to perform remote hands labor."
mod6: Question 3: From the language of part, it sounds like asciilifeform, mod6 and Both Co-Chairs can each appoint one board member. A total of three board members will exist. Can an elected/appointed board member give up his seat at any time for another person? Or if not is the term of the board seat for the existance of the entity?
mod6: Question 2: Where will the shares be issued? Or are they simply just to remain non-transferrable and a line item on the AN0 sheet?
mod6: Question 1: Will the foundation receive any shares for it's 1 BTC contribution?
mod6: Just being a bit more clear on that part.
mod6: Possible change to: "asciilifeform will pay for BingoBoingo's plane ticket home out of his own pocket, with mod6 as backstop and ben_vulpes as secondary backstop."
mod6: Alright, one thing that can be cleared up imho: "asciilifeform will pay for the ticket out of his own pocket, with mod6 as backstop and ben_vulpes as secondary backstop."
a111: Logged on 2018-02-17 20:21 trinque: this thing doesn't need any more chatter; let the parties working work, and see what comes of it.
hanbot: imo trinque's insight the other night applies here also: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-17#1784548 ☝︎
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> mircea_popescu: i gotta say that i do not understand the point of the candid photo request << There is a crisis of faith, and the request is for an act of good faith in addressing the crisis.
mircea_popescu: and if it does, it does you the great favour of rescuing the future you'd have poured into something that, in the cold light of day, wasn't worth it.
ben_vulpes: i worry it'll wreck a thing i value and have put some sweat into for reasons beyond my ken.
mircea_popescu: i'm going out on a limb here. i get to say what are teh trifles.
ben_vulpes: sure. i'd hate to lose your custom or his capitalization over what seems to me a trifle whose import i do not understand in the context of the isp.
mircea_popescu: it's a sad fate to ~act out~ your own life, of all things.
mircea_popescu: people tend to (stupidly) eschew taking photos of the important moments of their life, and then many years later they're left with meaningless albums of circumstantial bullcrap irrelevant to them.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i gotta say that i do not understand the point of the candid photo request
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform mod6, all interested in the evolution of Pizarro's corporate structure please to review http://pizarroisp.net/?p=5
mircea_popescu: im sure there's some poor africans in a center for businessmen "owing" each other trillions in notional btc as we speak, what's to keep 'em.
ben_vulpes: i'm just going to grieve this beer: http://signage.showprg.com/GHC2017/day.php?number=4
ben_vulpes: they'da had to have had the sense to use it
joecool: we have paper deeds to sums in the hundreds of thousands of btc :P
joecool: deedbot woulda been useful for these guys
joecool: ben_vulpes: i'm pulling the rest of the documents off pacer right now
shinohai: Oh I'm very curious, wondering if this is a hoaxtoshi sham or what.
ben_vulpes: i'm actually curious about the joecool scoop
diana_coman: I'll focus for now on eucrypt; it has anyway ada-c integration itself so I'll see what I have by the end
mircea_popescu: diana_coman i guess once the eucrypt adventure is sealed a cover letter re ada-c integration may be a good idea, for future reference.
mircea_popescu: aite, so write the piece up, bb is around so it can be quick
joecool: mircea_popescu: nor do they need to publish it as that
BingoBoingo: joecool: Write up a draft, if it's good it gets published but the premise makes this seem unlikely as framed by "probable creators"
diana_coman: fwiw re gprbuild the more I read on it the more I like it actually
joecool: nobody else has reported on it yet, but it's only a matter of time
joecool: BingoBoingo: probable creators of bitcoin filed suit against each other last week, I have the complaint ☟︎
diana_coman: nuke the gnu gnat on sight unless you have time to lose and hair to pull
diana_coman: well, I can talk only about gprbuild from ada being bright enough
diana_coman: no, gprbuild is bright enough to do everything; BUT depending on what tools you have installed you can get weird errors when versions mismatch ; as we had experienced in logs before on various occasions
mircea_popescu: so you basically have to chain them, gprbuild then gnat-make the objects or what ?
diana_coman: theoretically as far as I can tell it's a feature, not a bug aka "it's not gnatmake's business to do this, go use gprbuild"
mircea_popescu: so wait, is gnat broken is the idea ?
diana_coman: gprbuild from adacore works however fine to build aggregate libs as far as I can tell
diana_coman: in lulz from the (eu)crypt: gnatmake helpfully complains about all sorts in a .gpr file; once everything is fine, it.. fails with a very informative "aggregate libraries are not supported"; and indeed one has to use gprbuild and nothing else for aggregate libraries
shinohai: I'm sure with time they can get that number closer to 100%
ben_vulpes: https://arxiv.org/abs/1802.06038 << "on a subset of 3,759 contracts which we sampled for concrete validation and manual analysis, we reproduce real exploits at a true positive rate of 89%, yielding exploits for 3,686 contracts"
BingoBoingo: 's 500 pesos less than a benjie
BingoBoingo: <mod6> I'm gonna give mircea_popescu, diana_coman, BingoBoingo, asciilifeform, phf, and others time to catch up and weigh in, if so desired.<< It appears my opportunity to worry on this came and was addressed while getting the tooth repaired. 2300 pesos. That
mod6: Gotta few things to take care of, be back in a bit.
freakyfractal: Spain currently, but going back to Thailand
freakyfractal: been working.. might be changing that up soon tho
shinohai: Where the bjeezus you bee? Thought you had been raped and murdered by thai ladybois
ben_vulpes: by the name of ... ?
freakyfractal: had some time.. was lookin for an old friend
mod6: nice! thanks trinque
trinque: just noticed the poor thing was gagged at the UI level, thanks mod6
shinohai: Runs circles around the original gribble wallet plugin.
mod6: What a time to be alive, I tell you.
mod6: (did I just not see it? maybe it's already there somewhere)
mod6: trinque: hey, suggestion here for deedbot.org -- A link from the homepage to the Help (help.html) would be nice. or i'd settle for one in the "frequently asked questions" page too.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-19 17:31 mircea_popescu: and to ben_vulpes that you will not allow the natural and understandable desire of strive avoiding to guide you into nonsense, but will firmly commit to clearly and openly discuss problems.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes you committed to http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-19#1785088 ? ☝︎
mod6: Give it the best possible chance of success out of the gate.
mod6: I think it's worth it, to go through the hairpulling, to turn it from "adventure" into "venture".