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mircea_popescu: besides, at some point we'll get rid of sha2 in trb, and then we'll know.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that part is the most dubious, but hey.
mircea_popescu: happiness gotta hurt.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nope, it's not. it's fundamental.
mircea_popescu: the bug is the feature.
mircea_popescu: ^
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's the other angle of it though. mining forces you to burn half your milk.
mircea_popescu: who knows, maybe a person may be found, somehow, somewhere, in all this muck.
mircea_popescu: anyway, my interest in alts is like my interest in orc-language "academia" and random gaggles of nubile sluts.
mircea_popescu: you'll have to go into proper detail i guess.
mircea_popescu: of course it's tied ?
mircea_popescu: difficulty is a proxy for "are we there yet ?" ; once half the energy available is burned to mine, we're there yet. the difficulty equiv of this can be calculated.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes why ?
mircea_popescu: but there's naught more abundant in nature than time.
mircea_popescu: it's scarce like time is scarce - you can't make more, just squander what you got.
mircea_popescu: the fact that the world existed before all of them should be sufficient proof.
mircea_popescu: no coin is scarce.
mircea_popescu: a coin is a quanta, really. apparently for some reason quantization is mandatory.
mircea_popescu: same meaning here as in law 2.
mircea_popescu: heat waste, fo sho.
mircea_popescu: teh gods demand their sacrifice.
mircea_popescu: unless they "tattoo" so to speak, ie, burn perfectly fine fat, they can't work.
mircea_popescu: i'm unconvinced.
mircea_popescu: yes, there's no such thing as perfect bitcoin wrt work functions.
mircea_popescu: as opposed to you know, bitcoin, where if you do the hash you get the coin, anyone else be damned.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "premined" generalized here to mean, "you can do any work you want - unless recognized by authority it dun exist".
mircea_popescu: the objection never was as far as i can discern that linus did it (unless of course one is to give voice to the "feminist" cows), but that he seems to have given the keys away
mircea_popescu: incidentally - linux, also premined.
mircea_popescu: heh. ~equal to us level inflation.
mircea_popescu: which ties right into the above discussion of altcoin heads (they can't meaningfully criticize means they can't think) and more generally in the difference between republican forum and imperial forum (eg, reddit). the latter exists specifically so no work is done.
mircea_popescu: then the mocking begun.
mircea_popescu: you mean generally or here ? iirc urbit was eagerly followed for 3-4 weeks here, until it became obvious the author is technically inept and the following he has entirely disinterested in doing any useful work.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-20#1557358 << kinda what makes bothering with p2p in this particular subspace pointless. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: aha.
mircea_popescu: less so than eg ethereum.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-20#1557355 << yes. i very much claim that type for eulora. it's been done, turns out you just dunno where to look :) ☝︎
mircea_popescu: they're on doge team or ripple team like other people support coventry or wolverhampton. it's to their dumb head immoral to switch teams because the others got better players. ON THE CONTRARY.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger what are you, like 26 ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: the most symptomatic point being that they absolutely fucking never have any kind of reason to dislike anything. ever saw an altcoin head meaningfully discuss the drawbacks in alternatives ?
mircea_popescu: these aren't usually the same people as come up with anything worth reading.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-20#1557353 << well, it's sad, but i can't say i'm disappointed, because i had no expectation otherwise. the psychology of the alt-coin purveyor is very much as exemplified by that covertress chick : ambitious, mommy told her she's special which she believes, and "problems" "can always be overcome". preferably - by someone else. you know, what's washington gonna do about it. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-20#1557323 << possibly the implication of wot not fully digested as of yet. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: spooked the party even
mircea_popescu: a sort of localbrew punk/skinhead of the 70s
mircea_popescu: actually i recall ru went through a very acute phase
mircea_popescu: much as the muslim world also does.
mircea_popescu: see, pre 2000, romania had VERY strong antibodies against what jim&friends discuss in that turkey article.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform faggots.
mircea_popescu: also for the sake of humanity, "The teleology of this phenomena should probably begin" is a broken sentence. a teleology is any theory of purpose in realia. so you could say "any attempt if describing the teleology of this phenomena should probably begin" or "the teleology of this phenomena should be expressed in terms of" etc. it dun work like "description" or "philosophy", it works like for "substance" or "relevancy".
mircea_popescu: i don't use summer right
mircea_popescu: not really. facedots get circles once you finally got the fucker, for isntance.
mircea_popescu: ie non-figurative stylisized pattern
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, they never got semantic, a la ru prison tattoos. most girls got what today'd be called "tribal" shit
mircea_popescu: and i'd have busted your face on the street.
mircea_popescu: also at a time and place where listening to depeche mode wasn't merely happenstance but more cultural identification and political statement than a trump tshirt
mircea_popescu: but this is from a very insular culture, where for instance lesbos had it very easy : "does she wear anklet ? talk to her."
mircea_popescu: sort-of.
mircea_popescu: well some things were important, such as : did she get it somewhere her parents might see ?
mircea_popescu: this i suspect is the ancient, tribal, functional usage. "modern" my left foot.
mircea_popescu: but in any case, no hymen = fair game. and as there was need for easy visual identification to know whom to invite to parties... the sluts got inked.
mircea_popescu: anyway. when i was a kid, tattoos meant a thing and that thing only : she fucks. there exists no majority age in romania, a girl's a woman the moment she starts doing it, which can happen as early as 12, though as a rule it's more around 15.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-20#1557293 << the question eschewed, of course, is why "modern". and what;s it supposed to mean. very strange sort of amateur anthropology. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://blog.jim.com/culture/how-to-not-be-offensive/#comment-1442563 << dpood ever show up ?
mircea_popescu: myeah.
mircea_popescu: the overhead is : i encrypt 1 number, and communicate 127 numbers to 127 people then their responses to 127 people.
mircea_popescu: sure. log2(340282366920938463463374607431768211455) = 128. which may still be too much
mircea_popescu: it could in principle end up too much back and forth.
mircea_popescu: yes but even then
mircea_popescu: maybe fixable
mircea_popescu: but these have ~nothing to do with the weird objections raised.
mircea_popescu: anyway. the main problem with the algo described being that if i want to multiply 2^2^7-1 with 2^2^11-1 i'm stuck requesting 340282366920938463463374607431768211455 discrete additions, which isn't worth doing in any possible universe.
mircea_popescu: i think he'd greatly benefit from mp-wp, but anyway
mircea_popescu: notrly. just can't handle html.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform packet may be logged, this dun matter.
mircea_popescu: anyway, comment sent.
mircea_popescu: well, here's some lulz http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/vdlxv/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: i jus' did, and best i can see it is sufficient, and how we'll do stuff like rsa encryption/decryption over uci once gossipd is here.
mircea_popescu: ima leave him a comment
mircea_popescu: incidentally, was this jim fellow ever invited over ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if one "reduced" to all then set theory would be a funny place indeed.
mircea_popescu: alrighty.
mircea_popescu: every one is always going to be representable as "in a kettle".
mircea_popescu: this has no bearing. it was "all" not "one"
mircea_popescu: this is a fundamental strategical choice, and it is not getting reviewed. which is why there isn't a geographical republic.
mircea_popescu: anyway - we shall never again find ourselves "in a closed castle".
mircea_popescu: for all i know the guy has a point ; but we've not to date managed to put it in terms i can read.
mircea_popescu: trinque he has a serious issue with things that i don't yet fully grok, but i can not presently distinguish from this irrational meltdown and the irrational meltdown on the gossipd spec.
mircea_popescu: i'm not interested in the branching, will be happy to have a bignum machine that's securely separable via uci.
mircea_popescu: http://blog.jim.com/culture/why-women-get-tattooed/#comments << in other news, holy shit check out the ream of experts in women.
mircea_popescu: i dun follow ?
mircea_popescu: so its strength really is n*rsa + x
mircea_popescu: it is. in order for you to get the whole set you must a) break rsa keys as numerous as the whole set and b) magically intercept all communications, even those happening outside of any set that includes you.
mircea_popescu: this is a stronger guarantee than what rsa offers, incidentally.
mircea_popescu: except you can never know that total set.
mircea_popescu: from the fact that A asks B to p-add P1 and P1 you can not distinguish whether P1 is being multiplied or added. that you can't distinguish between these two means you have 0 bits, not > 0 bits.
mircea_popescu: you present to yourself that you do, because you wish to. but in practice, you do not.
mircea_popescu: this is an illusion.
mircea_popescu: but you can't know that i'm multiplying
mircea_popescu: the scheme presented isn't in any sense what you describe.
mircea_popescu: this is a very abstruse spoke off an interesting discussion. i dun really want to follow it. can we get back to the point ?