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mircea_popescu: anyway, his position is bolstered by
the fact
that from
the looks of
things,
the empire is going
to fight
to
the last
to defend
the re racket, much like body will keep liver going if it's
the last
thing it does.
mircea_popescu: lobbes austria is in
the wrong. you buy cheap young hussies generally. romania-czech-slovakia-slovenia-serbia etc,
the periphery of
the empire. not austria (or hungary),
the fucking center of it
☟︎ BingoBoingo: lobbes: More Germans I have
talked
to here are
thinking Hungary
than Austria as places for
their parents
to retire.
mircea_popescu: but,
that said, as long as he's evaluated it and it came out green, more power
to him.
ben_vulpes: i'm not laboring under
the delusion
that i'd actually own
the
thing
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: hue, buying paper
that can be sold
to other chumps
lobbes: I've been slowly eyeballing Austria mainly because I enjoy what little I've learned of Deutsch (and actual Germany screams "pantsuit" based on what I've read), but it is -essentially- still in natoreich (and I dislike cold climes). Seems like all roads eventually lead
to a LATAM of some sort.
BingoBoingo: lobbes: If you don't need
transit grade internet Chile is an option.
lobbes: Still,
theoretically nothing stopping me from one day heading
to e.g. BingoBoingostan and leaving house sitting
there
lobbes just recently 'bought' 'own' house. Mainly for
the lower (and fixed!) monthly expense (i.e. monthly mortgage payment ended cheaper
than my previous rent, and will never increase (rents here always
tend
to go up)). Plus waaay more space
than previous rented space
lobbes: Hey, no reason it needs
to anchor you. Can 'own' properties around globe neh?
ben_vulpes: sitting in
the scales on
the other side is "but mom i don't need another boat anchor holding me stateside"
ben_vulpes: i was planning
to live here for another
three years so i might just get
the place so's i can avoid having
to go
through
the hell of another rental search. also it's a rather spiffy haus
ben_vulpes: so my landlord comes over
the other day, nominally
to
talk about installing
the fence
that was a condition of my renting
the place, "hey i might liquidate
this place within
the year, do you want it? i'll credit rent paid so far
to
the down payment"
mircea_popescu: gambling AND slavery ? oh
the pantsuit are gonna love ya
mircea_popescu: wait, was
this "i'll bet you x you can't do y ; your side is indentured servitude" sorta structure ?
mod6: just checking, didn't wanna step on your
toes :]
trinque: what, no I'm not paying him
to do it
mod6: trinque: hey, are you paying douchebag
to figure out
trb on his own? or does me helping him violate what he agreed
to?
mircea_popescu: it occurs
to me actually,
this is a very... classical model of
tribal organization, huh.
there's a boy's hut in
the village where people work magic an'
teh young girls "hi, i came
to show you my
tits".
deedbot: trinque rated douchebag 1 << brought a surfeit of
tits
a111: Logged on 2018-03-29 14:32 mircea_popescu: let's use
the pieces on
the
table : you just were 10x more effective
than historical record because "being able
to yell at
them via voice chat when
they're being retarded". i'm, literally, a further degree of magnitude more effectual, and literally because whipping if retarded. which makes me not have
the "girl problems" ~everyone else has.
deedbot: BingoBoingo rated douchebag 1 << WIP, has some hustle willing
to creatively leverage some
toilets
BingoBoingo: !!rate douchebag 1 WIP, has some hustle willing
to creatively leverage some
toilets
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> anyway, whadda ya
think mod6 , can we get him back
to positive rating ? << aha, let's
try
this again.
mircea_popescu: (dezlinata = ro, literally "unwoolened", intensively something of
the uneven consistency of clouds, or scattered about wool.)
mircea_popescu: i
think
this is kinda why
the discussion's been so... dezlinata. people who ran into it vs people who mostly made
their own disciplined
trees and
therefore hadn't.
spyked has read it, but
tbh, it
took
this particular example
to finally understand
the issue
spyked: the way I understood it from reading v.pl,
the edges in
teh graph are established based on changes introduced by each hunk in
the nodes (the patches). so since
there are no patches changing
the files in vdiff_lib_xalloc_static_xnmalloc.vpatch, it's a leaf (and
this, if I understand correctly, is intrinsic
to
the current design of v).
mircea_popescu: yeah
this is
that whole histfile
thing
that somehow never got implemented.
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-03-29 08:15 ave1: For musl
the initialization / finalization part is minimal and easy
to read, for gnu lib C it is not and part of it used code from
the dynamic linking library.
mircea_popescu: anyway, whadda ya
think mod6 , can we get him back
to positive rating ?
☟︎ douchebag: Maybe if
there wasn't any cock involved
shinohai: Hard level: You must convince btcvixen
to let you snort a line of cocaine from it's cock.
mircea_popescu: the drawback however is
that i ~absolutely~ can not be retarded. not even a little bit.
mircea_popescu: let's use
the pieces on
the
table : you just were 10x more effective
than historical record because "being able
to yell at
them via voice chat when
they're being retarded". i'm, literally, a further degree of magnitude more effectual, and literally because whipping if retarded. which makes me not have
the "girl problems" ~everyone else has.
☟︎ douchebag: Ahh I see, must make
things a hell of a lot more interesting
mircea_popescu: douchebag no, because kinky connotes it's
this side dish, condiment, whatever. whereas with me it's foundational.
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-03-29 00:58 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
they're rank nonsense, "how
to
take a 95% productivity hit by everything
taking longer and using a blocking channel"
douchebag: You sure are into
that kinky shit eh?
mircea_popescu: you should see how much being able
to whip
them when
they're retarded helps.
douchebag: It helps being able
to yell at
them via voice chat when
they're being retarded
mircea_popescu: from experience (over a few dozen cases
to date or so) it
takes
the average girl about a degree of magnitude more
time, effort and misfires
than yours managed.
douchebag: All
the druggies who use silkroad boast about gpg4win so it can't be
too hard haha
douchebag: they were all windows users so I just had em use gpg4win or whatever
to make
the process as straightforward as possible. Couldn't imagine it being as easy
telling
them
to use gpg CLI
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-03-29 07:44 douchebag: Yeah, I'm glad
they could figure it out haha
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: Sent 6 hours and 18 minutes ago: <ave1> re:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-28#1790127, not close at all. I do have a script
to make a musl C library based ada (and one with a minimal Ada library). No C library only makes sense for systems without an OS.
shinohai: Nice
tits in log
too, great way
to start day.
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-03-29 07:53 mod6: douchebag: at
the
top of
the howto document, it lists all of
the pre-reqs you need before
the build. did you ensure
that you have
them all?
spyked: anyway, I suspect all systems relying on shared libraries are stuck using
the system-provided ld, regardless of
the gcc version. if anything, because of
the insane gcc defaults (glibc, dynamic symbols etc.) on newer distro versions.
spyked: ^ wait,
this doesn't make sense. ld shouldn't know about "static" and "inline", but it might make different assumptions about
the linkage nevertheless. I
tested using ld 2.30 (debian) and ld 2.28 (gentoo) and got
the same link errors.
spyked: phf's ld might add an "static"
to "inline"; or not, not sure; can verify by objdump'ing vdiff and seeing if
there appear multiple (with local linkage) definitions of xnmalloc in
the same file.
☟︎ spyked:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-28#1790159 <-- I checked on my system using ave1's instructions and it indeed uses adacore's gcc. however: gcc uses its collect2 utility for linking (for some link-time optimization stuff -- check using gcc -v source.c), which in
turn uses
the *system* ld, i.e. /usr/bin/ld.
that's why
there's a difference in
the link-time behaviour
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2018-03-28 21:55 spyked bbl, will replicate
the output in
the morning
ave1: I was looking into a process of getting GNU C
to produce small static binaries, but put it on
the back burner after reading
through
the code.
ave1: For musl
the initialization / finalization part is minimal and easy
to read, for gnu lib C it is not and part of it used code from
the dynamic linking library.
ave1: The parts you need on from
the C library on linux are
the initialization (move
the commandline arguments and environment variables from locations prepared by
the linux kernel
to
those needed in C)
the functions called in your code and
the finalization.
ave1: Note
that if you use
the musl c library, you will only get
the parts from
the C library you actually use in your binary. (this is not
true for gnu C library)
ave1: And even more, you can let gprconfig make a config file (run it without any arguments) and gprbuild will
then use
the selected compilers.
ave1: Also see how
the selection goes do: gprconfig --show-targets -v
mod6: well, im about
to crash out. but let's
tackle it
tomorrow, we'll start fresh. no worries.
douchebag: I'll get it
taken care of - it's no big deal
douchebag: I
thought I did I might have missed one
though
mod6: douchebag: at
the
top of
the howto document, it lists all of
the pre-reqs you need before
the build. did you ensure
that you have
them all?
a111: Logged on 2018-03-28 20:18 mircea_popescu:
this is pretty
terrible altogether. ave1 you got a moment ? how close is alf's "quite close" ?
ave1: !Qlater
tell mircea_popescu re:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-28#1790127, not close at all. I do have a script
to make a musl C library based ada (and one with a minimal Ada library). No C library only makes sense for systems without an OS.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2018-03-28 20:18 mircea_popescu:
this is pretty
terrible altogether. ave1 you got a moment ? how close is alf's "quite close" ?
ave1: !~later
tell mircea_popescu re:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-28#1790127, not close at all. I do have a script
to make a musl C library based ada (and one with a minimal Ada library). No C library only makes sense for systems without an OS.
☝︎ mod6: (the ONLINE build does
this for you)
mod6: ah, well, you should just be able
to drop
them into
the right directory. are you doing
the OFFLINE build?