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assbot: Logged on 20-02-2016 23:33:14; asciilifeform: to the point where i cannot even release
a patch because wtf, against ~what~ do i patch
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes if you recall the mjr guy or what's his name was here trying to mealy mouthedly take the temperature re bitfinex last time they did
a scam cycle.
mircea_popescu: if i find it in
a fucking bottle in the east river, my problem.
ben_vulpes: wow and world trade financial group is no longer even
a thing
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i suppose he just ended up in the wrong "have
a catered lunch on us" line.
mircea_popescu: obviously. what's bum with
a reputation of bfl shilling/fraud got to lose ? costs 0 for him.
BingoBoingo: Luke-Jr: "Because the cost of increasing the limit is lower than the benefits of peace/not constant fighting and showing that Bitcoin can in fact do
a hardfork."
https://archive.is/u1Dv9 assbot: Successfully added
a rating of -1 for petertodd with note: joined coup attempt
assbot: Successfully added
a rating of -1 for bluematt with note: joined coup attempt
assbot: Successfully added
a rating of -1 for pgp with note: random schmuck with bizarre pretensions.
assbot: You rated user petertodd on 01-May-2013, with
a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: the gift cert expert..
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for bluematt from 1 to -1 with note: historically respectable bitcoin tester, recently joined forces with known scammers
a la Luke-Jr and assorted nobodies in
a doomed if lulzy effort to break bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: !rate bluematt -1 historically respectable bitcoin tester, recently joined forces with known scammers
a la Luke-Jr and assorted nobodies in
a doomed if lulzy effort to break bitcoin.
assbot: You rated user bluematt on 06-May-2015, with
a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: one of the very few dudes in -dev actually doing something useful..
mircea_popescu: nobody is to use AntPool,
A-XBT, Bitfinex, BitFury, Bitmain, BIT-X Exchange, Blockcloud, BTCC, Coinfloor, F2Pool, HaoBTC, Ledger, LIGHTNINGASIC & BitExchange, OKCoin or Spondoolies-Tech for any purpose under any circumstances, or ever hire anyone who ever worked there.
☟︎ ben_vulpes: ;;later tell mod6 b-b-...5.sh works fine on something approaching
a sane computer
ben_vulpes: strictly
a release tool for the free world, then.
mircea_popescu: or maybe phf rebases it into
a change of his and signs that.
mircea_popescu: people in the senate floor of the most serene republic notice the silly things the kids are doing in bed these days and lo! ben_vulpes signs it, which makes that snipped suddenly go into
a bunch of servers.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: depends how good the fucking was.
a) is more discrete.
mircea_popescu: the girl, upon visiting, notices this, likes the functionality, and either
a) signs herself or b) imports his sig in her wot.
mircea_popescu: moe finds bitcoin in 2056, long after the republic prevailed, through his gf at the time. he steals her script, copies her .wot directory and now has
a node!
☟︎☟︎ ben_vulpes: i'm still trying to cook up
a syllogism over here
mod6: thanks mircea_popescu. I'm doing my best -- I need to get us in
a non-disjointed situation, hence the self-imposed deadline here.
mod6: if you encounter any issues, let's do what jurov did and dpaste 'em, we'll get through this one step at
a time tonight.
mircea_popescu: mno. the enveloping of
a tool which by its functioning and nature guarantees
a free world into
a sufficient wall so as to be safely operated by the opposite.
ben_vulpes: the turning of
a compiler which should simply ingest code and shit elfs into
a developer-centric tool?
ben_vulpes fully adrift now, without even
a sun to tell east from west
mircea_popescu: but understand that in any perspective, there's something fundamentally broken with telling V "press me this list of nodes". conceivably it may be useful as
a graph-debugging tool, but it is not
a v-ism.
ben_vulpes: i should simply expect misery from you every time i bring up the topic of how
a v might work then?
ben_vulpes is hit by
a particularly unpleasant revelatory wave
mod6: ok, i haven't eaten in like nearly 2 days. so im gonn walk away and get
a bite.
mircea_popescu: the idea is to have diverse coder process, and
a lot of fuckign toi land trouble on tghe coders, for maximal output quality.\
☟︎ ben_vulpes: you will get
a release patch and you will press to it. there is your hammer.
ben_vulpes: unless you expect it to be only and ever
a release tool and not
a tool for people actually working on the thing to use in their workflow.
ben_vulpes: what one might say to
a V implementation.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: not
a list of patches
a list of *leaves*
mod6: until we finally get
a test branch and so on and so forth, this stuff has to be ~perfect~ or we've got zip
mircea_popescu: mod6 im telling you , dunno if you read that log or not : you need
a separate testing genesis.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: only if "actual test cycles" only means "#b-
a test cycles"
mod6: ben_vulpes: yah, and when you're testing in production, this can't be
a thing.
ben_vulpes: mod6: testing cycle in #b-
a is slow as sin
shinohai: if you have
a rotor dir and try to run script it fails.
mod6: why in the world do I work on shit for
a month, post betas all the way, and then we hit these issues now?
mod6: we need someone to maintain
a V that makes sense.
mod6: <+jurov> mod6: trying under gentoo, v.pl complains "/.wot directory does not exist." << create your .wot in the same dir that you place the build script, create
a log of your findings, and see what happens plz.
mod6: these godddam fucking cocksuckers are going to give ole mod6
a heart attack.
ben_vulpes: mod6: well you're not trying to mount
a fs from
a mac into
a gentoo vm i don't think
ben_vulpes: i suspect it has to do with mounting
a filesystem into
a vm
mod6: <+phf> mod6: is there
a genesis for your v vpatch chain? << not until i finally get this thing working.
mod6: ok did
a build on my gentoo with 'build-bitcoind-V99995.sh' and looks fine: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4889056 Feb 20 21:24 bitcoind
assbot: Logged on 20-02-2016 19:04:49; ben_vulpes: "what it takes 6 months to train
a barista from nothing, and 6 months to make
a useful process tech!"
assbot: Logged on 20-02-2016 17:56:45; punkman: has anyone done
a computer-assisted human player go tournament?
ben_vulpes: mod6: i am *still* getting this with build-bitcoin-v99995.sh: gpg: WARNING: not
a detached signature; file 'buildroot-2015.05.tar.gz' was NOT verified!
☟︎ phf: mod6: is there
a genesis for your v vpatch chain?
phf: have
a list of patches that are to be pressed made manually?
ben_vulpes: pressing to
a head should simply recurse to the root of that head
phf: i have an untested uploader, takes
a vpatch and
a seal, lets through only
a valid vpatch/seal combination. i don't think this exhaustively covers what we need though, and is also written for cmucl/araneida which is not giving me best of reliability..
http://btcbase.org/upload assbot: Logged on 20-02-2016 19:39:11; jurov: about
a monh ago one dude offered to do the web submission form... was not heard since :(
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: i agree. but user can 'read tin' on which there is
a label, or just check 'patches' folder once built
assbot: Logged on 13-02-2016 23:22:01; mod6: oh, because the leaf ordering is different. if you want
a press of "all" patches as they exist in the mirror, currently, you need to press up through asciilifeform_maxint_locks_corrected.vpatch
mod6: but yah, anyway, the differences between V [v99996] and [v99995] are outlined in the above emails, and ya, the last one [beta 4] has
a complete vdiff between the too.
mod6: 99996_2 is not
a V release -- it is
a 'build-bitcoind' script version.
jurov: about
a monh ago one dude offered to do the web submission form... was not heard since :(
☟︎ ben_vulpes: phf: i tried for
a very long time with erc in
a seperate emacs instance running on
a server as
a bouncer, and the *constant* muscle memory confusion over the subtle differences between emacs-in-terminal and emacs-with-gui drove me up
a wall
phf: b-
a is ma safe space
ben_vulpes: and then there's the economic differences: barista can dream of what -- going on tour? owning their own coffee shop? writing
a best selling memoir about...running
a coffee shop and going on tour?
ben_vulpes: i'm talking about attention to detail, understanding wtf is happening, why the suit is
a necessary thing, why the sticky pads at each door...
ben_vulpes: "what it takes 6 months to train
a barista from nothing, and 6 months to make
a useful process tech!"
☟︎ punkman: has anyone done
a computer-assisted human player go tournament?
☟︎