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punkman: I didn't even dare suggest adding it of course!
asciilifeform: i thought all of this was elementarily obvious.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-01-2016#1382747 << ftr i do not like this one bit. WHY ADD 1000 LINES OF ???? ☝︎
asciilifeform: anyway i did not touch the json thing for the same reason i did not touch the whitespace formatting
asciilifeform: i.e. something built by the hands of ACTUAL people, that WORKED, but taken by jolt-cola-drinking jwz types and 'hacked!111 1333773d' into... what we have
punkman: so if I talk to to bitcoind with python I get sexpr in ascii or otherwise?
mircea_popescu: i guess so.
asciilifeform: sorta what i meant in earlier thread, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=21-01-2016#1380326 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i do but i don't recall why i wasn't so hot about that.
asciilifeform: if you recall, i wanted to replace it with unix signals.
asciilifeform: i very dearly wanted to rip it out, but then all the robotics folks are presently 'come to expect' will have to be scrapped.
mircea_popescu: what i took it to mean was that if he's gonna load his head with shit, would rather do two things than one and reload
punkman: both gui-snip and debug-sanity are gonna touch a lot of files though, and I would prefer to do this once
asciilifeform: one way to look at it is that he isn't much more of a 'free man' than, e.g., i am
asciilifeform: punkman: i'm a fan of the man's cryptoanalytic work. but the sv-popularity of his cipher primitives is concerning
punkman: I'd like to contribute more debug-related patches, could maybe split the gui-snip stuff from debug_sanity patch, and start over.
kakobrekla: afaik there were 'duds' i dont recall specifics from top of the head
asciilifeform: i remember very well the smoking ~boards~
asciilifeform: i am specificially thinking of ~ic~ rather than ~board~
kakobrekla: i did say probably, not possibly.
asciilifeform: but i - obviously - wasn't there.
asciilifeform: i've always wanted to do a bit of microscopy on those, see if there was a set of magicks for re-enabling the 'accidented' cores
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-01-2016#1382433 << all i really want presently is to dump mempool. and to have some means of removing ANYTHING whatsoever from it. because if we had this, we COULD semispace-garbagecollect. ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-01-2016#1382439 << i thought we had this ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i have no idea how to formulate this better than to refer you to the (oft mentioned, by me) worms dispute.
mircea_popescu: i am immune to it, it depends on me. this creates a certain situation of power in the field.
Azelphur: I feel bad -10ing him though, I like to work things out with people and it just sucks that he's not meeting his obligations or even being reasonable really
mircea_popescu: the argument against gosplan is exactly the argument against "hi guise i am ceo".
Azelphur: started to get really annoyed when I had the choice of taking money out of my cold wallet or taking a loan from my parents to make rent over christmas - not cool :/
mircea_popescu: Azelphur i c.
mircea_popescu: while you personally may not be inclined, i am, and without me it dies.
Azelphur: if it was just missed payment by a few days I'd be cool with it, heck I was fine with it up until about 2 weeks late, stopped working when it was a month late, and public -10 has only happened after 3 months late
asciilifeform: i'm trying to grasp how it isn't an argument for gosplan tho
mircea_popescu: i guess it can be viewed so, yeah. ok.
Azelphur: mircea_popescu, yea I know, dude is very good at excuses, as I say it has been 3 months, and even if he has sent a bank transfer it's still only for a small percentage of total owed
Azelphur: but yea, officially looking for new work now. Hopefully it's a good move and I'll get paid a little more (and at all :P)
punkman: mircea_popescu: yeah I get a new cert on bitbet, issued 2016/01/21
Azelphur: punkman, yea, I started with him last October iirc
assbot: Logged on 23-01-2016 06:06:51; ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: and i'm going to guess most of this history is on bitcointalk.org
Azelphur: whoops, he said he'd pay me an installment of £1000ish on Monday, then said it was a bank holiday and that he would send it out Tuesday, ignored me till yesterday where he claimed he had sent it out, but honestly he has said it's sent so many times and it didn't arrive I don't trust it any more
Azelphur: punkman, yea for me I did the work, he just keeps saying he will pay and continues to delay / make excuses
gribble: RagnarDanneskjol was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 44 weeks, 0 days, 2 hours, 50 minutes, and 19 seconds ago: <RagnarDanneskjol> trinque - i am occasionally using the nick for continued development on punks ver. if anyone here's partial to the name I can pass it over. Wow that xm42
Azelphur: Was really unsure whether to place that one (badmouthing former employer and all) but figured he'll probably look here for someone to replace me, and other people might not be so financially secure as I am.
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-01-2016#1382516 << perhaps i am up too late, but i cannot make heads nor tails of this ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 23-01-2016 06:06:51; ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: and i'm going to guess most of this history is on bitcointalk.org
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: and i'm going to guess most of this history is on bitcointalk.org ☟︎☟︎
ben_vulpes: perhaps i'll do that while i install os x on this laptop for the umpteenth time
ben_vulpes: every time i look into pool payout schemes my eyes glaze over and my fraud alert systems kick in.
mircea_popescu: i could hear you chuckling from here.
polarbeard: yep, but nethash is not exact I think?
ben_vulpes: i'm sure polarbeard can get on that train
polarbeard: I'd be happy with unix_time space hex_message sent_or_received_bit
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-01-2016#1382193 << i've yet to meet an electron who thought himself the ceo of the atom in question. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: (actually the only sane model of physical cosmogony i know doth require shifting planck constant, if ever so shyly)
asciilifeform: i am picturing, one day measured value of plank's constant shifts, mircea_popescu goes back to sleep, says 'this shift was implicit all along, could not otherwise happen.' and will sleep until the very integers get up and walk around.
mircea_popescu: i'm sure we also have a new language!
asciilifeform: and i suppose the egyptians must have known this
asciilifeform: (the former wrote a whole mega-l0ltron re: same, 'i am a strange loop')
mircea_popescu: mebbe ? i dun recall
mircea_popescu: and then "omfg what have i done" slapping forehead
mircea_popescu: it's a visual joke. imagine me saying "hmm, i wonder how best to do this" whille scratching the top of my head
asciilifeform: speaking of 'indistinguishable from monkeys', i observed that approx 1 train car in 5 has a loud, rambling nutter in it
asciilifeform: i'd put the bifurcation as the whole of the man-monkey divide
mircea_popescu: now, whether a natural tongue or one surgically bifurcated is a change worth the mention... well... i suppose we must leave this up to the inventor.
asciilifeform: the b00kz become associated with thing-that-anchors-you, i suspect
asciilifeform: i suspect that i will go the same
asciilifeform: interestingly, never happened when i actually was involved in academic racket
mircea_popescu: eh, period in my life, i'd go to a party and inexorably leave with a half sack of books.
asciilifeform: unrelatedly, not long ago had a brain-melting mindfuck, browsed maths crud on 'amazon' rec list, and noticed b00k, 'wait a sec, where did i see the author' - turns out, in email box
asciilifeform: i might get eaten as a snack on said planet, but it'd be almost worth it
asciilifeform: this being said, i wouldn't mind visiting limonov's (or mircea_popescu's for that matter) planet where folks practice bare-handed head-chopping from sunrise to noon, and measure neutron cross-sections, compose symphonies, after dinner
mircea_popescu: "i already ate".
mircea_popescu: there's another great difference, which may be easier to ford. socialism - sacrifice now for later paradise. this - is enjoyable. now. so much so i have not the least care if paradise or no paradise, or as the old man of the mountain said to allah,
asciilifeform: as amply confirmed experimentally as anything i'd care to think of.
asciilifeform: (no, i did not see one with naked eye.)
asciilifeform: in approx same way and to same degree as i know that electron exists.
trinque: mircea_popescu │ eventually, if nothing was cut off, duck in the yard can no longer resist the call of ducks in the sky and takes off. << I'm going to go ahead and carve this one into the inside of my skull.
assbot: Logged on 23-01-2016 01:09:02; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-01-2016#1381724 << if anyone in afghanistan etc were not fully employed in countig rocks and fucking goats thus managing to find their way here, i'd definitely finance a project to fly a quad to a drone and use the old komet trick
asciilifeform: i cannot say to this, but only take off my hat.
asciilifeform: i suppose if asteroid cleaned everybody's clock but the hydrothermal vent microbes, mircea_popescu would (from his dirigible!) still say, 'nothing novel, planet still crawling with whatevers, snore'
mircea_popescu: i expect change like you expect nonsense. it comes out of young / silly people.
mircea_popescu: i don't mind.
asciilifeform: and i suppose 'human processes' didn't change a lick since pharaonic egypt. aha, right.
asciilifeform: i can boot up fortran and set 1 to equal 2 also.
asciilifeform: i know full well that mircea_popescu can arbitrarily redefine 'a thing' for there to be none.
mircea_popescu: besides, the discussion in civilisational terms is besides the point. i guarantee that there was an alf in upper egypt bemoaning the vagaries of fate in the following exact terms :
danielpbarron: i like to retweet those greaterthan 100 btc trades
danielpbarron: ;;later tell mod6 i think your twatter bot died again
mircea_popescu: then they'll rant and rave about "dupa ce i-a cheltuit vor merita sa devina muncitori ! Nu mai au nici o scuza ca au devenit saraci!"
mircea_popescu: when plebs "own stock", the problem becomes unsolvable, because the ready answer is, "i can't blame myself, for i'm nothing - so i'll just blame the gods"
assbot: Logged on 23-01-2016 02:10:21; ben_vulpes: i can see it though
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-01-2016#1382056 << i have nfi. i think it's a lot of "how does one get a gf". not being worthy, per se. not demanding $randomfemale submit, per se. not that far off, either. ☝︎
polarbeard: I wanted to instrumentalize trb a bit, btw
polarbeard: that's right, I shouldn't have released it this early anyway
asciilifeform: which is how i ended up ~not~ doing it in gnumake
polarbeard: I would have to implement a hash table in bash
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: apparently fella wanted to reimplement v in gnumake (as i once considered doing) but made some peculiar design decisions along the way
ben_vulpes: anyways, interesting thing, polarbeard, perhaps i shall test it some day along side the tools written by people i trust like mod6 and trinque and asciilifeform.
ben_vulpes: i saw some turds, asked some questions, am not entirely thrilled with answers.
ben_vulpes: i have to admit, my eyes glazed over.