asciilifeform: lol!!

asciilifeform: ought to ?

asciilifeform: will confess, not seen this film

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: 'wtf, i solved apparent given equation, and this fella goes off re 'cuntlogics'..' != 'slide'

asciilifeform: imho poorly specified didactic problem tho, in orig thrd.

asciilifeform: this is when i admit that i dun think i have with what to disagree with mp_en_viaje

asciilifeform: right. so per this extended model, even tho on paper broker 'breaks even', he is still chump, as e.g. lives in reich where usg can steal his brick castle on a whim

asciilifeform: ok, take the succesful broker, 1m/y in. that same brick house, 900k. what is output of algo ? ( per my reading of orig - 'not scam' ? )

asciilifeform: aite, so ~was~ strictly re the sums in given units ?

asciilifeform: so , to expand this binomial, 'if yer living in cardboard, thereby you pay to go' ?

asciilifeform: there was 0 in orig thrd re genuine vs scam, read entirely as 'is yer 'job' in fact paying, or do you pay to go to it'

asciilifeform: in fact do

asciilifeform: possibly i dun follow the analogy. not pretending, swear.

asciilifeform: false as in 'could ride, idjit' or false in re 'toy'

asciilifeform: plox to expand?

asciilifeform: funnily enuff iirc we had thread re literally whether one could ride 100 toy chopper

asciilifeform: i read orig thrd as 'yer gulag dun even cover cost of barrack, they make you pay for barrack' but difficult to argue with 'scam house, scam job, and breathe scam air also', all of it is entirely tru

asciilifeform: 'if rocket puts out less thrust than it weights, it dun go up' 'ok, this is true of my toy chopper also' 'idjit, i was speaking only of my moon lander, plebe'

asciilifeform: nuffin re '% of national land'

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: given example was specifically a ratio of 'cost' / 'budget' tho

asciilifeform: ^

asciilifeform: it makes sense now, you kept only skeleton from 'rotor'.

asciilifeform: pretty substantial find, mod6 . ty for documenting.

asciilifeform: at least seems to be the case for ada projs.

asciilifeform: ( previously thought that it ~always~ builds statics )

asciilifeform: interesting, apparently ave1's demands 'disable-shared' in some yet-unknown case, to actually build static cppism

asciilifeform: aa

asciilifeform: i may be thick, but it is not evident from the patch

asciilifeform: mod6: i see what you did, but under which gcc got the eggog ??

asciilifeform: mod6: 1st pleez say, under which gcc you get this, and under which -- not

asciilifeform: interesting : this happens on ave1's gcc, but not orig rotor's ?!

asciilifeform: cuntoo, per my current understanding, obsoletes 'rotor' entirely (by doing same thing to ~entire system~ right off the bat)

asciilifeform: ( or do i misread ? )

asciilifeform: mod6: this part makes sense. but i'm curious re the apparently redundant piece

asciilifeform: ( ... or didja substitute ave1's for rotor's ..? )

asciilifeform: mod6: plox to detail ( e.g. if on musltronic cuntoo, why needs 'rotor' system ? it existed only to build musltronic gcc 1st, and ~then~ trb, on heathen envirs , recall )

asciilifeform: see also e.g. ☝︎

asciilifeform: ( i've met 'fresh off the boat' 'was physicist, now cabbie' emigres, who suffered from this delusion. but ~these~ were not emigres... )

asciilifeform: verily it sounds as nutty as it was, but they were hoping to, believe or not, 'live off writing books'. in usa, no less.

asciilifeform: trinque: i once attended a gathering of 'writers'. one unusually introspective type uttered phrase 'do you all understand that we're competing for each other's beer money' ☟︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-17#1914441 << this is good q imho. the only reason i can think of for 'throw dice on flat table', is to avoid 'came to rest sharp edge up', which can introduce 'must either throw again, or pick between numbers by hand ' etc ☝︎☟︎

asciilifeform: i imagine all of the holes look quite similar from mp_en_viaje's olympus tho -- sorta like stones on the ground, mountains to ant, all look ~same from man's height ☟︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-17#1914449 << i know a whole platoon of folx , in meatspace, in deeper holes ( e.g. mortgageisms, alimonies, childrenz, 'student loans', drink. ) but there is ~always~ somewhere a deeper hole to be found than whichever . ☝︎

asciilifeform: incidentally fwiw the shack asciilifeform lives in , would cost ~2y of his pay to buy. but i ~dun want~ to buy it, why would i want to buy a decaying cardboard-an'-siding thing. ☟︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-17#1914445 << pretty lulzy detail in there : >> 'a tax-free annual net base salary' . wonder how this worx. ☝︎

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: guess what else they taught in ameri-hs (e.g. 'if you put in 100 $ , yr later can have 105' , and other meanwhile-retracted 'communism by 1980' promiseisms ) ☟︎

asciilifeform: mp described in detail this subj, better than i could ever hope to

asciilifeform: it rots people from inside.

asciilifeform: whaack: if yer making piles and piles o'dough in reich, and ~very~ disciplined, it can theoretically be a thing to do, save it up an' buy a block of flats in BingoBoingostan or similar. but i hesitate to recommend to anyone to sit in reich a single day longer than can be helped

asciilifeform: 'cs education' is, believe, 9000x easier, than to try an' escape reich as old man

asciilifeform: and best way to learn lang, is to live & conduct biz where people speak it, this is gold standard for subj

asciilifeform: the longer yer in, the harder to break out

asciilifeform: whaack: in your position, i'd focus on getting out of reich 1st; can 'book larnin'' 2nd. ☟︎

asciilifeform: 'Roll the five dice ten times on a flat, even surface, writing down...' ☟︎

asciilifeform: http://edgecase.net/articles/how_i_bought_and_stored_some_bitcoin << also notbad, his walletron alluded to in prev thrd.

asciilifeform will take closer look at ^above when hands less full

asciilifeform: http://edgecase.net/articles/ << lotsa classic eng. lit of various vintages, transcribed, in there.

asciilifeform: fella defo lurked for a good while, and attentively.

asciilifeform: sept. 25 , '18 .

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-17#1914370 << pretty great piece. hand-cranked verification of mp's gpg1.4.10 tarball deed . ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-17#1914364 << this is quite similar to the direct ancestor of v , jurov's trb mailing list system . ☝︎☟︎

asciilifeform: right

asciilifeform: fwiw stjohn_piano_2 , unlike many prev. noobs, seems to have the virtue of patience.

asciilifeform: yea i suspect e.g. Mocky currently in 1 without an orchestra..

asciilifeform: ( even auschwitz had an orchestra... )

asciilifeform: diana_coman: imho it is achievable objective, re salt mines, to have ~some~ juice remaining ~sometimes~ .

asciilifeform: ( afaik similar level of inflatola here )

asciilifeform: diana_coman: it aint impossible, e.g. asciilifeform manages.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-17#1914368 << consider ada. ( ffa series imho makes a decent ada tutorial, and so does diana_coman's series ) ☝︎☟︎

asciilifeform: no bitmaps.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-17#1914355 << schematics + text in e.g. svg vector graphic. ☝︎☟︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-17#1914373 << i thought it was obv from the www, but must note that fg was sold out year+ ago . at some point we'll make the third gen. board , but not any time soon. danielpbarron however has a dealership and iirc still has a few in stock. ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-17#1914356 << plz don't bother unless you have one lined up already; i will prolly do it with own hands sooner ☝︎☟︎

asciilifeform: ( where is the limit of the 'brilliant biz plan', i have nfi, but they haven't even scratched surface yet.. )

asciilifeform: for so long as it's < the typical plane ticket, tourists will prolly still pony up

asciilifeform: wainot 100, 1000

asciilifeform: i dunget wai even start with 10

asciilifeform: noshit

asciilifeform: at least this , 10bux, vs argie 200

asciilifeform: ( just as argentina stopped, lol )

asciilifeform: in other ~recent lulz, 'Mar 9, 2019 - US citizens travelling to Europe will need to obtain a visa from 2021, the European Union (EU) has said.'

asciilifeform: 'doctor, you gave me these pills but nothing happens' 'didja take'em?' 'of course took, they're right here in my pocket'

asciilifeform: afaik 1st fella to press ~this~ particular 'anykey' .. ☟︎

asciilifeform: but loox like stjohn_piano_2 realized already.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-16#1914153 << lol, after asciilifeform went for tea thought 'hrm, that fp looked familiar', sure enuff http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-16#1913962 << >> asciilifeform's primary sub fp ☝︎☝︎

asciilifeform: happens at 10-20man shops scattered all over

asciilifeform: it dun happen in the gulag proper

asciilifeform: last i knew, ~that~ was contracted out to same people who http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-16#1914284 ☝︎

asciilifeform: it dun take so many hands to turn 'and we put buffer overflow at X' from microshit, into 'deliverables'

asciilifeform: iirc we had coupla thrds re whether they even still ~have~ a 'core of productive' somewhere.

asciilifeform: ( dunno how 'desk flyer' ends up in afghan, i guess grunts could not be trusted not to mate cable connectors using sledgehammer..? )

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i recall coupla yrs ago an nsa flunkie reportedly ate a bullet in afghan. was novel enuff that was newsworthy.

asciilifeform: ( dunno re cia, was never yet hungry enuff to try ~there~ )

asciilifeform: upstack : asciilifeform at one time learned that nsa has an unofficial exemption from 'discrimination laws', they dun hire ru folx -- but china a+++ a-ok

asciilifeform: 'convergent evolution' . y'know, like how 'new world' & 'old world' vulture, unrelated birds, but to naked eye exactly alike

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: entertainingly, some yrs ago i had to write a 'decompiler' for these, to pull out ie 'sploits etc

asciilifeform: + half MB of obfuscolade

asciilifeform: 'var Fingerprinting={sendFingerprint:function(b,d,e){var a=Fingerprinting.getFingerprintData(),c=new XMLHttpRequest;a["x-f-uc"]=e;a.csrf_token=d;c.open("POST",b);c.setRequestHeader("Content-type","application/json");c.send(JSON.stringify(a))},collectInitialFingerprint:function(b,d,e,a){setTimeout(function(){Fingerprinting.sendFingerprint(b,d,e)},a)}...' lol

asciilifeform: of course generated. i doubt that the collective stable of monkeys have typed in half MB all together in 10y

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: half MB is even 'slim' by modern standards, for these.