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mircea_popescu: anyway, ima go to buy chocolate and do things, so bbl we can continue.,
mircea_popescu: no dude, when apple.com was registgered it was registered to a key.
mircea_popescu: what postel thinks'd be chaos, much like what jwz thinks'd be chaos, much like clinton or whoever other of these niggers and jews thinks to be "chnaos" is actually human life.
mircea_popescu: and from thence it all progresses - no, the place to look up needn't be "one across all the internet", because "otherwise postel thinks it'd be chaos".
mircea_popescu: the imperial idiots implemented this as dns, which is stupid and braindamaged, but the implementation being flawed doesn't remove the fundamental reasons, which is why i say - read that damned rfc, the things i didn't mock are actually correct.
mircea_popescu: everyone-who-participates-in-this-conversation is the reference point. evidently, if we are talking about uh i dunno, star trek, the names have to be known and shared. spock can't be the woman with the nice ass. how does one join this conversation ? there's two options - either the usian school of "don't loo kit up - guess, fropm "context", what "it could be" or else - look it up damned it. to look it up, it has to be looked
mircea_popescu: everyone-who-matters is a nonsensical reference point here.
mircea_popescu: and who said they get to be margraves in the first place ?
mircea_popescu: (yes you can rape the woman instead, which is in this sense deliberate, but i daresay not the same thing)
mircea_popescu: it's not deliberate in any useful sense, because some outcomes are not deliberable.
mircea_popescu: for the same reason "pua" is a horrible dating strategy.
mircea_popescu: life hasn't ended, the sun still rises, trilema clearly benefits.
mircea_popescu: i for instance don't credit the english-online-dictionaries opinions as to the meaning of english words.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform alternatively they could you know, just not credit THAT root and be done with it.
mircea_popescu: similarly fatties, gender-confuzeleds and any other special or specifiable interest group.
mircea_popescu: if tomorrow i wanna call barack obama hussein bahamas, i'll call him that and he can cry me a river over it.
mircea_popescu: there's exactly nothing wrong for pepsicola and his friends to discuss pepsicola by "coke.com" in their own context, and CERTAINLY coca-cola doesn't have nor can aquire some mechanism to prevent his.
mircea_popescu: (note that for the needs of this discussion - i know because grandfather told me is a nec plus ultram of buluceala. it's how people know the earth is flat.)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i would say the gns as discussed on trilema drastically reduces it.
mircea_popescu: to get back to the fidonet/various attempts to do independent dns etc - the very naive "symbol context" = X, be x "an identity" or whatever is a liability. you gotta just let the context be its own thing.
mircea_popescu: why the fuck would any of this matter ? in a discussion of "that guy" we may either load the table where he is written "shithead" or "sir", but in either case we gotta load a table for crying out loud.
mircea_popescu: and while it pretends otherwise, it has nfi what . means and would just as happily resolve "illegal" domaions.
mircea_popescu: that's not how it works. i got this local key-data store ; the box can't even connect via dns port.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's rather true. real vs conventional hierarchy. there's these girls who are slaves ; and then there's these poor but ambitious girls who wish to be slaves. all that pretense jazz.
mircea_popescu: the fact that my definitions of imperial terminology prevail over the empire's own definition has nothing to do with the fact that before such a prevailing can take place, those definitions must actually exist and be given.
mircea_popescu: yes, it works fine in context, yes context frames needn't even map to identities ; nevertheless - you will have to have shared symbol tables.
mircea_popescu: trinque the words you use must have meanings. even if they have the most peculiar of meanings such as nigger = bureaucrat or jew = us agitprop agent ; nevertheless they must be given. somewhere.
mircea_popescu: really, read this rfc thing. it isn't long. where the fuck is it.
mircea_popescu: you can't standardize "the asking" ebcause the asking is made out of symbols which have to be meaningful.
mircea_popescu: we call this "dns" for historical reasons. but relations to the imperial braindamaged implementation are spurious.
mircea_popescu: you will have to share some portions of the symbol tables.
mircea_popescu: even now. they try to pretend otherwise. that pretense has to have some light shed on it.
mircea_popescu: "trilema.com is 4.5.6.7 according to mp. if you believe mp - then there you go". that's a dns record.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "mostly" ie, "until mp requires a definition, then it all breaks down"
mircea_popescu: you ask your friends what they think ; not what the world is.
mircea_popescu: trinque and if you want to know what deedbot contains, also ask friends ?
mircea_popescu: out of band dns-over-phone is not an improvement. over anything.
mircea_popescu: if there's nowhere to lookup the "(" how will you have a lisp ? because "we all know" ? and if we don't know how do we find out ?
mircea_popescu: feel free to query it over gossipd, or over whatever else.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the fact that you can query dns server over current dns protocol and get current response does NOT create an obligation on your to do so.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-15#1567823 << every system you ever use will have a dictionary ; and every system you ever used in the past had a dictionary. this is unavoidable. you prefer one over another, dictionaries, systems, that's your problem. but if you read the linked rfc - there's parts they get right, right before the parts they fuck up that i underlined in red.
☝︎ mircea_popescu: there's no discussion re any of that. who said "unauthenticable" ?
mircea_popescu: that's the whole discussion re "delgation" in the comments.
mircea_popescu: go find one line of code currently involved in dns in any capacity that you can prove is going to remain there.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform keeps my foot. what the hell does it keep ?
mircea_popescu: maybe some of 'em want to go away for a weekend, you don't know till you ask amirite.
mircea_popescu: eh. maybe they're paying him in fresh tail. so he made up some scam, sold it to some suckers for $$$, then they want him to come back and be worshipped by all the interns ? sure, why not.
mircea_popescu: lol chris rock dun give a shit, he's promoting some new movie and big titty tuesday
mircea_popescu: o hey, apparently twitter DOESN'T have you know, guidelines etc anymore.
mircea_popescu: kinda the point of the whole "special" bullshit. everything the anal child does is directed towards the same protection of his childhood, and in this particular case - if he's special enough then you can't "say bad things" because are outside ; and if you're not outside he'll just... specialize more.
mircea_popescu: "It hurt me inside knowing somebody from outside our race is talking bad about us," said Rodriguez, carrying a sign reading, "Brown and Proud."
mircea_popescu: what happened to "you're not willing to follow the rules, you can't take public office" ?
mircea_popescu: i think some magic could be had where you put all the new items into a new table then merge the two tables where hashes don't match.
mircea_popescu: to get back to the pguctor feeding briefly - you mean "one at a time" as in insert into whatever values () as opposed to insert into whatever values (),(),() ?
mircea_popescu: ie, the back button itself is promisetronic as implemented by browsers. "almost like lisp!"
mircea_popescu: well, in fairness the back button thing is because browsers are shit more than anything. there's a thousand ways to break it, including by introducing an expiring page in the stack etc.
mircea_popescu: but javascript is specifically dedicated to doing dumb shit like "i'll pretend to be you - and fill the clipboard"
mircea_popescu: t to the point, to disentangle a skein of thought, to detect what is sophistical, and to discard what is irrelevant."
mircea_popescu: not, on the other hand, to deny that there in fact exists this subculture dedicated to the screenshot as quotation mechanism, or that tech support teams regularly see terrabytes of crap each month, clogging the tubes for no conceivable reason. it has to do with a failure of literacy, a certain laziness of the mind that thinks in symbols (which is what the screenshot is).as newman put it, "to see things as they are, to go righ