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felipelalli:
I had to learn that when
I was living in Australia! :)
felipelalli: (
I hope translate it to English in future)
assbot: Logged on 04-02-2016 23:34:43; mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag> how many us folk realize that usa was mega-power in mid-20th ~because~ it was a place where folks like ulam wanted to live ? >> this is what
i've been saying re tmsr for a while nao. finally dawned ?
mircea_popescu: when
i see the "s-boxes" and schedules and bs
i get this distinct "technician aspiring to be engineer" feeling.
assbot: Me 22 M with my 23 F 6 month girlfriend,
I love her and can't stand the sight of her. : relationships ... (
http://bit.ly/1S3Zu0X )
BingoBoingo:
I dunno seems like an interesting time to put it out there. Who knows what will wash up?
mircea_popescu: da fuck can
i do, freedom and decentralization means people run away with the things!
adlai: this block cipher challenge is too soon,
i haven't even finished my BBCC yet
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag> how many us folk realize that usa was mega-power in mid-20th ~because~ it was a place where folks like ulam wanted to live ? >> this is what
i've been saying re tmsr for a while nao. finally dawned ?
☟︎ danielpbarron:
i made squares of varying widths where each pixel was colored darker for each prime factor it had, the darkest pixels being powers of 2
danielpbarron:
i made some kinda neat scripts on my own for playing with prime number patterns
danielpbarron:
i went to college for math, even if
i did drop out right before actually getting a degree
assbot: Logged on 18-11-2015 14:54:26; asciilifeform: shinohai: '
i heard that ivan won a car in the lotto.' 'yes! but not ivan but piotr, not a car but an overcoat, not in lotto but at cards, and not won but lost'
danielpbarron: and
i thought ascii's avatar was an albino fancy rat
ascii_butugychag: for some reason,
i came to associate him with lisp programming in my head.
mircea_popescu: "Dear Ms. Tarzian: Here's another idea
I've had: Weight Beaters. Weight Beaters are a method of encouraging participants to lose weight. A participant who does not lose the desired number of pounds in a month is beaten up. This negative feedback can, of course, be combined with more traditional positive-feedback weight-loss mechanisms."
Nicknaem:
i'll be back, this isn't my final form. keep up the good work.
mircea_popescu: sure, but
i wish to hear a bunch of "oh there's nothing wrong with tiny block ciphers - bitcoin needs larger blocks!!11"
ascii_butugychag: the imbecilatronics will continue exactly as now until physically unplugged,
i suspect
phf: mircea_popescu: ok,
i don't get it, about the card printed
mircea_popescu: and by "we"
i mean you know, actulaly trained specialists in teh field.
phf: but fogbank stories always seemed like Damascus steal,
i.e. very precise and advanced, once discovered and lost, equally hard to recover. never did
i think that something like glove coupling can get fogbanked
thestringpuller: ascii_butugychag: yes, saturn V blueprints are on net. lets go to moon shall we?
i have 3 days off coming up.
thestringpuller: ascii_butugychag: re: nuke designer.
I remember reading a wired article saying that practical nuclear engineering (bombs) is a dying field since no one can technically test nuclear detonations. Most of the students who were learning from manhattan project-age engineers were learning via word of mouth.
ascii_butugychag: sorta how
i'm being paid, through a pyramid of derpatronic intermediaries, 'not to tmsr' for 8h/d
mircea_popescu: it is insulting. if
i was djb and lived in su
i would fucking phone stalin over this stupidity.
ascii_butugychag: also
i will add that preferring 'weird' operations, vs. simple arithmetic, costs us more than it costs the enemy.
ascii_butugychag:
i'd add 'probabilistic' to the requirements, but this might be just aesthetic
mircea_popescu: except the only paired transcendentals
i know of are pi and e.
mircea_popescu: which is why
i'd like to see much more computationally intensive cipher and encryption.
mircea_popescu: give people a perfectly valid reason to only take crypto : "
i don't want to be spammed"
ascii_butugychag: this is sort of why
i'd like to take the opposite approach, rather than take a 'this looks confusing!111' item like transcendental digits, take a proven-nphard problem and 'cryptoify' it somehow
mircea_popescu: the properties which º' must exhibit may make the entire scheme unfeasible, but
i can't seem to prove º' may not exist.
mircea_popescu: the properties which º must obviously exhibit make it only partly similar to plain multiplication - perhaps group theory may produce a good candidate,
i have not currently a very clear picture of what this item should actually be, but seems like some sort of modulo-multiplicator.
mircea_popescu: you need a proper "destructive multiplication" item, which
i'll discuss later, noted here º. you proceed to calculate the maxint+key to maxint+key+block digits of pi via repeated applications of the original plouffe algo, and you º the result with the plaintext message which yields the ciphered message.
phf: mircea_popescu:
i've been using his guide in the early 2000s, but then
i think he caved and switched to laptops, because he stopped updating it. he has a recent build recommendation
https://blog.cr.yp.to/20140602-saber.html from his "saber cluster"
mod6: nice
i threw it out there in the twat space
mircea_popescu: from
https://cr.yp.to/bib/online.html : "instead of signing a copyright transfer agreement. If you ever encounter a publisher that doesn't accept this, let me know, and
I'll be happy to blacklist that publisher here.
I'm now blacklisting IEEE and ACM."
PeterL:
I used to really be into following sports and politics, at some point
I realized my fervor had equally little effect on either,
I am trying to cut back and ignore them
PeterL:
I think liberal used to mean something different, but the term has been coopted by idiots
PeterL: my wife is pretty sure Sanders is going to save us ,
I don't get it
ascii_butugychag: if
i can't decide friend or foe after first 512byte, then no go
ascii_butugychag: and now
i wonder how the fuck mircea_popescu can live with rsa
ascii_butugychag:
i'll wait for mircea_popescu to cough up provably-correct cipher..?
mod6: alright,
i've got a local fix for gernika's bug where it'll press the entire tree out if the given vpatch is not in the flow.
ascii_butugychag: because
i don't have 20 years to wait for discovery of good cipher.
ascii_butugychag: but re: earlier thread,
i'ma publish 'g'. and it'll have one or more of the bad old ciphers from gpg. BECAUSE gpg is ~already~ the weak link in the proposed system. or ben_vulpes doesn't get to download his w4r3z
ascii_butugychag: 'this is clever and
i have nfi how anyone could possibly attack' is proof of ~nothing~ but the intellectual limits of the author
mircea_popescu: which isn't much of an idea, admittedly, but it's all
i got.
mircea_popescu: after which
i will write a cipher competition, and include my idea.
assbot: Logged on 04-02-2016 16:57:23; mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag seriously, you are going too far too fast. we are not ready to do this yet.
i do not wish to use, and
i see no purpose of having deployed in any capacity, a block cipher that does not satisfy a) and b) and idealld d) from
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=02-02-2016#1394698 mod6: yeah,
i agree. im hoping that after this round of fixes in place, that the mission-critical features are solid enough to warrent a genesis.
mircea_popescu:
i think it should yea. besides, here's the beauty of it : "broken" v as previously was could nevertheless be used to bootstrap fixed v as currently it is found. you know ?
mod6:
I've got a local fix in place for ben_vulpes' error that he brought up: A file (of any type) exists in 'patches', and it causes V to fail ungracefully.
mircea_popescu: fix MY fucking flat tyre so
i go where
I wanted to go in the first place., don't tell me idea is better than 2kbit bassomatic,
i couldn't give less of a shit.
mircea_popescu: so sure, they "fixed" his error, but the wrong way.
i don't want a fix for a flat tyre that consists in loading me up on a trai nthat goes a different direction.
assbot: Logged on 02-02-2016 23:48:55; mircea_popescu: incidentally, thinking vaguely along the lines of making a b-a call for papers for symm cypher, what would we actually want ?
i'm thinking a) block sizes of 1, 4, 16, 64 kbytes. none of that bit-denominated bs, wtf is this, 64 bits. fuck that. b) key size of 64kb fixed. c) bonus points for proved hardness, as-hard-as-x etc d) bonus points for not using just basic arithmetics. fuck this shift-and-xor
PeterL:
I'm just brainstorming here
BingoBoingo:
I think
I'm going to stop reading the "Phenomenology of Spirit".
I didn't get sober to import the mental version of systemd.
BingoBoingo:
I guess it's time to start clueing regular contributors in on that stealth turn we decided on.
mircea_popescu: yeh.
i mean the inkling is good, but this seems a footnote in something else.
BingoBoingo: The magic pisstank turns out to be placebo when comes to NOx apparently... But
I guess this is a bit much for that point.
assbot: Logged on 04-02-2016 10:23:40; jurov: oh
i see "MPEx will issue twice that count of shares, allocating half to the Qntra board block, and half to the respective authors"
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo so
i'm reading here a 500 word opinion piece about mercedes in qntra. why ? not newsy, not bitcon-y, not funny, what is it.
mircea_popescu: btw, for the list of "best shit in the world only found in argentina" it's cherry season and omfg. never have
i had black cherries like they have here.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> jurov oops ima take the 384 back soz. << It's my bad in addition to total words
I should have reported total shares.
ascii_butugychag:
i like bernstein but the adoption of his blockciphers by the enemy casts darkness on them.