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mircea_popescu: fucking loony tunes collection over here. that guy doesn't trust anything or like anything ; that other guy wants to cook while running around the streets of mosul. isn't there anyone in this god damned republic that is sane ?
mircea_popescu: yes but this situation is not stable. either you get out of there or you get credit cards and whatnot.
mircea_popescu: aaaand you can't rent a place because no bank accounts, amirite.
mircea_popescu: sometimes i wish i knew someone in san francisco who wasn't a bum.
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel how does this relate to having someone drive all the way from canada to hand you laptops ?
mircea_popescu: Framedragger note that there isn't any serious "bitcoin invoicing" thing. you can have a "take customer;'s bitcoin and give me fiatola", there's 500x of those. there's NO "take customer's fiatola and give me btc"
mircea_popescu: "i'll believe it when i see it with big font in rounded corners."
☟︎ mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel "here's the shopify page, now it's legit to pay 700" ?
mircea_popescu: yes, but as a more general thing, re earlier discussion. bitcoin has 0 infrastructure, just a bunch of dorkage.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger he's a fine example actually. has a fucking "shopify" thing because...well ? idiots want my cc. what's he to do, practically, "dude don't checkout with paypal but instead..."
mircea_popescu: this guy needs a girlfriend stat. preferably a ho that comprehends the points about infrastructure.
mircea_popescu: listen, you gotta fix your infrastructure this is ridiculous already.
mircea_popescu: oh, he doesn't actually have his key anymore does he ;/
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel so how about you hop in a plane and bring me a coupla ? i'll buy you a steak even!
☟︎ mircea_popescu: well yes, from what i understood you've been trying to stand up a whole thing, from hardware ?
mircea_popescu: check out the latest kardashian ass pics, do the yoga routine, cheezburger, foodporn, etc ?
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel so it actually is ho-level complete replacement of ipad whatever, they can do on your item whatever they do, snapchat, whatsapp, whatever ?
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski they seriously made that domain ? i thought was just bingo being memetic.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel so basically you can make lisp machines i can give out to hos ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform very much a mistake. i was going to say something derisive about the % but then i passed.
mircea_popescu: tmsr-web as in, not replacing apache, replacing mozillachrome ?
mircea_popescu: so basically, you're talking about a client stack on which a browser-like could be stood up ?
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel is this cl-fpt an apache replacement then ?
mircea_popescu: Framedragger if you want to write a monograph on that topic i'd read.
mircea_popescu: you can't simply take the pages out, photograph the miners in boudoir interiors and overwrite them with "IT LIFTS! AND IT SEPARATES!"
mircea_popescu: yeah. in different terms, if you run a shop selling denim overalls for farmers and miners and notice that this magazine sells (quite lucratively!) chiffon dresses to boston ladies,
mircea_popescu: well, no. the objection is, in nucet, that you've not so far proposed a bridge over the gap of "the republic is about empowering people to matter in the world and the redditardisms are about assuring cattle that their play will have no consequences"
mircea_popescu: 2021 ? you folks'd better provision, there's literally no telling what a bitcent means in four years
mircea_popescu: which explains why "a fascination with the complexity of universe" or similar blabla is so predictive of idiocy (call it iyi, jewry, whatever) : the dude who goes "i fucking love science!!1" in response to artist's renditions of galaxies has a very low tolerance to complexity.
mircea_popescu: in the end, the only difference between us and them is that we're not particularly impressed with the notion of "bn datapoints!!1" because whatever, i'll just cat/grep them. their computer only has notepad and it can't load bn line files.
mircea_popescu: * = or until your connection floods and you turn it off.
mircea_popescu: "rather than have you evaluate 1bn datapoints, how about i send you the number 4 a thousand trillion times*"
mircea_popescu: no, the more i think about it, the more this makes sense.
mircea_popescu: then let's make "all of them agree" and suddenly - problem solved!
mircea_popescu: apparently if i have a billion datapoints and a billion idiots who can't, individually, evaluate a thousand data points, the solution is to create a list of all the thousand trillion "evaluations" of each data point by each idiot, and then list those. because why deal with a billion when i could deal with a thousand trillion.
mircea_popescu: hence why any "discussion" of the global warming scam by the proponents starts and ends with a litany of... all the proponents that agree with this proponent.
mircea_popescu: hence the whole "i want time magazine to tell me how the shutdown relates to me" ie, "i don't want any data (ie, anything about objective reality, outside) i just want commentary, entirely baseless if possible."
mircea_popescu: there's nothing substantively making the data less comprehensible than the commentary. on the contrary, if you had to write a parser it'd be easier to write it for the data - the commentary is baseless and as such incomprehensible through sheer variance.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not even, it's more a matter of "but the wall meat is pink and his meat is purple. purple is better"
mircea_popescu: AND, observably, the recipes slowly diverge - it was 1 part wall meat to 3 parts cattle meat years ago, but by now it's 1 to 10 or elss
mircea_popescu: the model for the situation is roughly speaking that of a man caught in a prison made out of cooked meat, walls so thick he can't physically eat his way through - and his reaction is to raise cattle to make sausage.
mircea_popescu: it's a very interesting paradoxical effect this, from either a cultural anthropology or a gnoseology angle, that when deluged with first hand data the human brain reacts by secreting and seeking out... commentary, which is to say spurious text that's not even data.
mircea_popescu: never fear the FEARFUL!!!1 by consensus, what's awesome by everyone's agreement is always the magical wizard of oz, a hunchback old codger behind a mirror.
mircea_popescu: but he talks to the postmodern crowd, that's drowned in information it can't process. the same "public opinion" which snowden imagined will cause some sort of equivalent reaction to nuclear holocaust only bigger through publishing his data ; but then turned out to fizzle (exactly like the nukes)
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-18#1569826 << meanwhile read the source. phoronix forum lel. anyway - funnily enough, and predictably enough the dude plays the "commentary supersedes reality" game, and purports to handwave the... what is it, 1.5k cracked moduli with loose discussion of a coupla imaginary examples he came up with on the spot, notwithstanding that after all the whole fucking thing is published.
☝︎ mircea_popescu: even the quoted statement is a disguised tautology. "don't herd with the guy that's not herding with the herd." hurr durr, i totally needed a degree in something of the other studies to figure this much out!
mircea_popescu: the part where this is necessarily self-limiting, and always ends an "inexplicable hillary defeat" is out of their horizon.
mircea_popescu: the graph is walked backwards. they say what the audience expects. not schooled in any facts, it's all "consensus building"
mircea_popescu: see, you lose. i "have a history" of rape and terrorism. 1-0.
mircea_popescu: the "value" is that it has nothing to say ; from a certain perspective this makes sense.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i still believe it's "no matter what happens, wow will not tell me anything about myself."
mircea_popescu: i suppose the intimate history of red radicalism is only familiar to dedicated entomologists.
mircea_popescu: but it is reassuring to see that a century later, the menshevik-bolshevik debate is all happily chugging along.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: Framedragger objection against the "we'll do a cicada thing".
mircea_popescu: do you understand the objection though, or is it just so much nonsense ?
mircea_popescu: Framedragger woulja care to go into detail or is it too depressing ?
mircea_popescu: and no, it requires no skill, it requires a specific representation to be believably made. that "nothing will happen". i can't make that, nor do i wish to (these two are related).