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trinque: probably not firing off
a "fuck you" to everyone you can think of in one conversation, l0l
danielpbarron: write
a blog article, deedbot your formal accusation, say whatever ~once~ in the log (not 20 times)
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for nubbins` from 2 to -1 with note: for the purpose of turning the spam nozzle two clicks towards the off position, and in the interest of discovering whether
a lord can be silenced or not
assbot: You rated user nubbins` on 30-Jun-2014, with
a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: He's good for
a trade in the 1 bitcoin range..
hanbot: anyway i'm not sure if i oughta take jurov's rating as
a wholesale endorsement. advise as ya like.
nubbins`: FTR, calling my wife an ugly broad hurts just about as much as calling my left elbow
a bicycle
nubbins`: if i had
a satoshi for every time mp said "looky" when he'd lost an argument, i'd be able to donate
a tx fee to bitbet
☟︎ nubbins`: for all the good it did, being
a lord and all.
mircea_popescu: looky,
a republic is not
a democracy no matter on what face you turn the democracy pebble.
jurov: if #b-
a thinks nubbins` should not have
a voice, let's negrate him
BingoBoingo: <pete_dushenski> kyle's dad and
a hot tub or something << Kyle's dad and Randy's dad. 2nd part of 3 that includes Jew Scouts
mircea_popescu: you think who and when decided what in
a private corp is open to your inquiry because you have the ability to roll your eyes ?
nubbins`: asasshole in
a suit who can't count
nubbins`: it was his right to introduce
a private expense to the business
nubbins`: how dare you call
a fraudster
a fraudster
nubbins`: lol he selectively quoted so bad that he got half
a word at the start.
nubbins`: jurov ask him about the putting
a private expense on the books! see if he dodges it! ;p
nubbins`: imagine finding yourself in such
a spot
nubbins`: danielpbarron also, as
a lord, your clicks don't put me towards the off position at all
hanbot: jurov hehe what're you doing with such loaded questions? mind you, i'm not suggesting you're wrong for disagreeing or asking or anything of the sort. i'm just curious about your judgment of what i see as
a guy on full tilt.
mircea_popescu: cazalla everyone has very legit cause for complaint. the problem is that [the subsection of everyone who thinks the us is the world] imagines that the thing to do when you got legit cause of complaint is to try and identify
a kulak and get him to admit his mistakes.
danielpbarron: nubbins`, i'm trying to give you an out to the negative rating i fear i will eventually have to give you, and I don't mean that as
a threat, just that at
a certain point what you are doing is spamming, and i like to read this log every day and have the power to at least turn the nozzle two clicks towards the off position
cazalla: he won't cash your stock warrant as he has you on ignore? it's clear such
a request can be relayed to him if required
cazalla: pete_dushenski, sure, but sometimes
a dry bite is all that's needed
nubbins`: asciilifeform and others who have partnered up with mp should keep
a close eye on things from here on out
cazalla: pete_dushenski, never seen pod racing used in that context though, guess ill find
a new me me
pete_dushenski: "Randy asks Gerald if he'd ever had
a gay fantasy and Gerald explains that he has always thought of watching another guy masturbate. The fantasy then becomes
a reality."
nubbins`: here's
a quip for you, ya fuckin idiot
nubbins`: "dump the ugly broad" is the best popescu can come up with as
a rebuttal to legitimate accusations of fraud
cazalla: it's
a me me pete_dushenski
mircea_popescu: looking forward to the nubbins 1g box so he can be
a lord on his own merit for once.
mircea_popescu: well yeah, had we had the pogos deployed last year or somesuch this might have been
a very different story.
mircea_popescu: i've encountered to signs of this animal, and this is such an unlikely event if there were
a battle even ?
davout: mircea_popescu: well, it also "doesn't not work" in the sense that I sometimes have got transactions stuck because I'm
a cheap zero-fee jew, that I got unstuck by issuing
a double-spend
mircea_popescu: my telescope, in it being man made not god given, is not much more than
a tool.
assbot: Logged on 07-03-2016 23:20:09; mircea_popescu: you think you're running
a node, because, symptomatically, in the windows definition of running code (hey, click items till it works) you are. but the sense of running code contemplated for bitcoin is negative, not positive, and you don't know how to check for that nor do you specifically care.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: but i dunno how to carry that particular discussion in
a way that'd dispose.
mircea_popescu: back in the day bitcoin mining was healthy, after
a fashion, pools came and went. they've been stable for
a long time now.
mircea_popescu: you think you're running
a node, because, symptomatically, in the windows definition of running code (hey, click items till it works) you are. but the sense of running code contemplated for bitcoin is negative, not positive, and you don't know how to check for that nor do you specifically care.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: davout i don't think you take my meaning. the situation that you imagine is, "hey, whatever, summertime and
a bunch of us are at the beach". the situation in reality is, "
a moroccan clan and some fat frenchies at the beach". guess how likely you are to
a) find out the price of dried fruit and b) find out that you aren't finding out the price of dried fruit.
nubbins`: davout all it takes is
a default setting of relayshitzerofeetransactions=FALSE
nubbins`: shoulda been watching the mempool size when you pushed out
a 0-fee
assbot: Logged on 07-03-2016 23:07:12; mircea_popescu: but, generally speaking, sybil testing on purported bitcoin nodes are
a good idea, especially if carried out in secret and uncoordinatedly.
mircea_popescu: and there are VERY GOOD game theoretic reasons for
a miner cartel to do this.
mircea_popescu: it is an intricate discussion, and one i'm unwillingto carry in the full detail, but on the basis of what i have seen, it is my considered opinion that at the time in discussion, the miner cartel was running
a ~half hour block delay thing.
mircea_popescu: davout> asciilifeform:
a transaction being relayed does not imply it will be mined by anyone << especially
a 0fee one.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how does
a transaction that shouldn't even be relayed GET relayed, and then mined, in short order ?
mircea_popescu: but, generally speaking, sybil testing on purported bitcoin nodes are
a good idea, especially if carried out in secret and uncoordinatedly.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no argument. in which it becomes entirely
a bitbet's swamp, which bitbet has to drain.
nubbins`: the most plausible scenario i can think of is that, like dooglus concurred,
a shit-fee tx took forever and then got relayed
dooglus: davout: curious why you'd say "that's
a weird distribution << when mining block N, I have my pick of all the transactions broadcast while block N-1 was the newest block. some of those will have decent fees. transactions broadcast while block N-10 was the newest block that haven't already been mined are probably not very attractive to mine now. so why is block N including so many transactions created 10 blocks ago and so few created 1 block ag
mircea_popescu: its sudden appearance was discussed in these very logs - even for that brief interval before it made it into
a block.
mircea_popescu:
a statement of fact is
a statement of fact. it only becomes
a proof if used in
a reasoning.
a fact and
a proof are very different items : one's
a realia, the other ideal.
nubbins`: i also flatly disbelieve that mp sent A2,
A..n to completely different nodes, because it's extremely, extremely relevant and didn't come out until his original argument shit the bed
davout: asciilifeform:
a transaction being relayed does not imply it will be mined by anyone
nubbins`: you must then write
a blog post
nubbins`: because two entities control most of the mining, and it's absolutely retarded for those same entities to not have
a similar amount of control over nodes?
nubbins`: suppose i run two nodes, one
a member of Nk and one
a member of Nm. As long as my nodes are running proper sanity checks on each other (i.e. passing tx's between them), which obviously they should be because i'm not running SPV nodes, mp's "mathematical" argument falls apart at the seams
mircea_popescu: which yes, on the sheer strength of the abundance and precision, "dang, this better be
a nightmare"
mircea_popescu: the chief problem with trying to communicate things is that there's always going to be
a set of idiots / lazy thinkers who want
a specific outcome out of the conversation, and then proceed to parasitize it with their half-assed sententious bullshit.
mircea_popescu: and so no, one who things "well there's nodes, so it's
a p2p network" is utterly flattering himself. no such thing in bitcoin. there's
a supernode, and
a bunch of whatevers.
assbot: Logged on 07-03-2016 22:49:27; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform suppose there's nodes N1... Nn advertising themselves on the network. suppose you send txn X to all nodes Nk where k is divisible by 2, which has the properties that
a) it would not be broadcast to any further nodes, and b) it would prevent transaction Y from being accepted in the mempool. suppose you verify that nodes Nk where k = 2i do not in fact advertise X. suppose you broadcast Y
assbot: Logged on 07-03-2016 22:49:27; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform suppose there's nodes N1... Nn advertising themselves on the network. suppose you send txn X to all nodes Nk where k is divisible by 2, which has the properties that
a) it would not be broadcast to any further nodes, and b) it would prevent transaction Y from being accepted in the mempool. suppose you verify that nodes Nk where k = 2i do not in fact advertise X. suppose you broadcast Y
assbot: Logged on 10-02-2016 02:24:16; nubbins`: speak now if you believe
a lord that has contributed TRB patches, who owns the second-largest s.mg stock warrant, who trades in the only physical collectibles that are priced solely in BTC, who pays the bill for eulora.org, who is the republic's de facto minister of letters awaiting with bated quill the whittling-down of
a codebase fit to publish, should be stripped of his title; speak your treason now, th