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mircea_popescu: i can readily see
a definition of freedom as "one has enough resources to protect himself from the outside world". this definition is impractical, however, belonging to the sphere chicken world.
danielpbarron: what is
a free man in asciilifeform terms? do I qualify by being someone who only needs to work full time for one season out of the year?
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 00:01:57; asciilifeform: 'Élisabeth de Rothschild (née de Chambure;
a.k.
a. Lili; March 9, 1902 - March 23, 1945) was
a member by marriage of the wine-making branch of the Rothschild family.'
assbot: Logged on 10-03-2016 13:36:51; punkman: anyway, doesn't hurt to come up with
a pricetag. who knows maybe the satoshi hoard might move this year.
mircea_popescu: the discussion is
a whole not
a half. yes we both understand one half of it. now you understand the other half of it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the ideas of
a not free man about what freedom'd do to him are null and void.
assbot: Logged on 10-03-2016 13:11:28; asciilifeform: the 'reddit appeal' of what we do is ~0, and this is PROPER, and it is in many ways
a barometer of doing The Right Thing
mircea_popescu: not in statements of fact, we're not painting
a still life here. what do!
mircea_popescu: i'd rather we be prepared, if possible, and i pointedly not care how unpleasant
a discussion may be to anyone's/everyone's favourite assumptions. so here we are.
mircea_popescu: things are happening with or without permission, as
a general rule. either you're prepared for the possible outcomes, or not.
assbot: Logged on 10-03-2016 12:57:10; *: asciilifeform doesn't expect to get to eat lsd in his natural lifespam, just as doesn't expect
a real tailored suit or to sail on
a dirigible
assbot: Logged on 10-03-2016 12:54:35; asciilifeform: it melted my brain that he even half-seriously hinted at the possibility of such
a thing.
mircea_popescu: i don't see the future well enough to judge what chances we have, but i do see the future well enough to see that if you have no horse in
a race, you can't win it.
mircea_popescu: understand that if there's
a summer of crazy,
a NEW schelling will emerge.
mircea_popescu: i do not expect anything, this is why this is
a discussion.
mircea_popescu: so basically you propose - wait and see on trb, meanwhile i'll also develop
a fork variant which i won't either share or have ready in time ?
mircea_popescu: anyway - what isn't
a strategy is "if the bad thing happens i'll get really butthurt".
mircea_popescu: there is
a very specific danger which you perhaps are not seeing. if indeed we continu with trb as is, and if indeed 3) happens, as these two share pow and we don't control .7 or so exahash we become extremelty vulnerable. recall the fate of altcoin ?
mircea_popescu: at this juncture, tmsr must make the decision if it will continue strictly with trb, or ALSO offer
a tmsr fork of trb.
mircea_popescu: 3)
a miner-fork, run by whatever that fat dumb fuck can hire on freelancer.com
mircea_popescu: in any case : while
a hierarchy could perhaps be constructed in the "not in wot" pile, as you propose or otherwise,
assbot: Logged on 10-03-2016 12:48:50; asciilifeform: so if you lot end up surrendering, i will simply have to add 'bitcoin replacement' to my already tall pile of 'redo computing' pyramid, slowly grind it in my mostly nonexisting spare time, and wait another 20 years to find
a new set of sane people, if i live that long.
assbot: Logged on 10-03-2016 12:17:07; fluffypony: most people building crap on top of "
a blockchain" have no idea why they're doing so
punkman: diana_coman: i just hated everything about it. moving/finding things in inventory, trying to equip things and and ending up with phantom copies if I didn't click just right. Trying to walk and floating at
a 45 degree angle, falling to death off smooth hills. The claim sticks that are "points" in space and keys and... I dunno. I suppose some of that might have changed already.
nubbins`: thestringpuller / diana_coman it's worth noting that for
a game like eulora, which should conceivably have massive amounts of art assets down the road, easier tools for getting those assets in place will drastically increase the volume and quality of em
punkman: the whole game interface was
a pain for me. I'd give it another go when that changes.
thestringpuller: Take Source for instance. You open up hammer, import your geometry (as
a map), press play and Half Life loads with your assets.
thestringpuller: diana_coman: it's
a textfile that has no middleware for artist to import assets into the engine. you have to either write it yourself or place the geometry in their yourself. It's 2016 not 1993.
diana_coman: depends on what you mean by "ideas" (i.e. desires in that direction plenty) and by getting rid of planeshift (code is already quite far - in
a good sense - from original planeshift and yes, I absolutely want to take it further away)
diana_coman: what's wrong with
a textfile per se thestringpuller ?
thestringpuller: jurov: not that I'm
a huge fan of unity, but after playing Kerbal Space Program you have to give it
a little credit. What it does have is
a large layer of middleware which allows for much better asset management. Whereas in Planeshift + Crystalspace it's all handled in essentially
a textfile...
nubbins`: danielpbarron from "paschal", of or relating to easter. in various spellings, it's
a male or female name
thestringpuller: Turning Planeshift + Crystalspace into Unity is like turning Bitcoin into Visa, so I don't think it should be
a job for anyone.
nubbins`: thestringpuller sounds like
a job for.... whomever
thestringpuller: placing art in that game is
a PITA. the planeshift engine (on top of cs) comes with 0 middleware.
punkman: is "lower someone into pederasty"
a russian thing? the phrase never made much sense to me
nubbins`: sorry, i have
a script that changes words of violence to words of kindness
nubbins`: jurov danielpbarron has
a lot to learn, he's come to me for guidance
danielpbarron: that's
a violation of the rules you like to cite so much
thestringpuller: "
a (usually erotic) homosexual relationship between an adult male and
a pubescent or adolescent male. "
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: "Pederasty is an ancient Greek form of interaction in which members of the same sex would partake in the pleasures of an intellectual and/or sexual relationship as part of
a socially acceptable ancient custom " << uh ok...
punkman: anyway, doesn't hurt to come up with
a pricetag. who knows maybe the satoshi hoard might move this year.
☟︎ danielpbarron: although without
a bitcoin i don't have much interest in computer parts anyway, so that's
a catch-22
danielpbarron: still had
a little left for my great purge when i burned the contents of my drug box as well as some eastern philosophy texts and my karate uniform
danielpbarron once had
a 'vial' of the stuff; used it to put drops on sugar cubes, eat and go for bike ride in the summer
shinohai: mircea_popescu is under stress lately perhaps and needs
a nice lsd trip to put things in perspective :D
assbot: Logged on 10-03-2016 10:43:06; mircea_popescu: in other news - it still remains likely that this summer will see
a bevy of various hardforks on offer. practically speaking, trb can offer either its own candidate, which takes
a lot of work, or else sit tight and we'll follow the more intelligent of the avaialble offerings, which takes less work but also implies
a lot of risk - experience to date shows that there's precious little intelligence avai
assbot: Logged on 10-03-2016 10:52:32; jurov: but seriously, what is
a must have? mempool sanity and anything else?
assbot: Logged on 10-03-2016 10:43:06; mircea_popescu: in other news - it still remains likely that this summer will see
a bevy of various hardforks on offer. practically speaking, trb can offer either its own candidate, which takes
a lot of work, or else sit tight and we'll follow the more intelligent of the avaialble offerings, which takes less work but also implies
a lot of risk - experience to date shows that there's precious little intelligence avai
fluffypony: most people building crap on top of "
a blockchain" have no idea why they're doing so
☟︎ fluffypony: davout: I made that exact argument at
a meetup in Berlin last year where someone presented some junk they're building on Ethereum
shinohai: Ether is simply
a Rube Goldbergesque way of making money for it's founder to buy
a lifetime supply of Retin-
A. When he has it *poof*
davout: ached is
a big part of making this type of crowdfunding effective. Even worse, the project organizer could always fund the remainder of the contract privately, hence it is not at all clear that there is any actual gain of security. While it was
a nice use of SIGHASH_ALL, it really solved
a non-problem"
davout: "The lesson of the very well built lighthouse Bitcoin project, which has resulted in no more than
a few thousand dollars of funding over the past years, has to be that there is extremely little value to be gained by introducing trustless escrow in crowdfunding. Even if you wanted to crowdfund something very controversial, where traditional web platforms will ban you, its not at all clear that disintermediating holding funds before cap is re
shinohai: Plenty of discussion here. When there isn't, there is
a plethora of information in the logs.
assbot: Logged on 10-03-2016 10:43:46; mircea_popescu: in any case we should prolly have
a strategy discussion here. paging mod6 asciilifeform jurov trinque phf an' the other interested parties.
jurov: but seriously, what is
a must have? mempool sanity and anything else?
☟︎ davout: i'm really not convinced we'll see
a HF this year
mircea_popescu: in any case we should prolly have
a strategy discussion here. paging mod6 asciilifeform jurov trinque phf an' the other interested parties.
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: alls, and more likely than not we'll be stuck picking between
a warty rat and
a sickly mole.
mircea_popescu: in other news - it still remains likely that this summer will see
a bevy of various hardforks on offer. practically speaking, trb can offer either its own candidate, which takes
a lot of work, or else sit tight and we'll follow the more intelligent of the avaialble offerings, which takes less work but also implies
a lot of risk - experience to date shows that there's precious little intelligence available outside the w
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: assbot> RIP Google PageRank score:
A retrospective on how it ruined the web << this is not an idle comment. google, like every other usg item, like usg collectively, was entrusted with great responsibility in many fields after the war.
gernika: It looked like there was
a dos util for it -- then I realized that was from 1999.