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mircea_popescu: no,
that's not what i mean. i mean i don't want
to play genitorial roulette, i'd rather choose
the new members of
this family myself.
lauren22: Yes, not worth getting
trapped in a bad relationship over kid
mircea_popescu: lauren22 ben_vulpes has a coupla,
the other married guy left ; i keep slavegirls, most everyone else is vaguer about it.
douchebag: trinque: I'll do actual work once I have a machine
that can be on 24/7
trinque: douchebag: and when you bring
these chicks in here,
tell
them A) register, B) don't expect
trinque hops off what he was doing
to immediately cut
txn for
their precious cuntlet C) once
they withdraw, balance is 0 again, because duh
trinque: nothing happens if
they weren't registered
lauren22: Oh, I started in CS, did not finish
though.
mircea_popescu: trinque i sent payments
they didn't have keys yet, i don't want
to resent lest it ends up doublespent.
trinque: so,
the girls are bitching
they don't have a balance, after having run withdrawal requests, or what?
mircea_popescu: well, in
the sense of, do you bash ? do you c ? do you ada ? do you what ?
mircea_popescu: now modesty aside, considering i've seen your
tits : what DO you do with yourself ?
mircea_popescu: zx2c4 i'm sorry, i got confused. "
this scandal is why socrates didn't even fucking want plato's disgusting silver. and now
think --
that for his great merits, socrates was in fact given by
the city "2000 btc"" is what i meant.
lauren22: Cloudflare & lava lamps? Live in
the flesh?
mircea_popescu: imagine, if you only had 100`000 more pairs of
tits you could write cryptographic client-server protocols.
mircea_popescu: thatbitchlola im waiting for
trinque
to show up ; won't be very long.
lauren22: Watch over my 2 children until
they start school
thatbitchlola: would you be able
to pay me and sluttydiamond now
that we added our keys?
mircea_popescu: and now
think --
that for his great merits, aristotle was in fact given by
the city "2000 btc", ie exactly what you mean by it, "sufficient money so as i can be a righteous man alone".
mircea_popescu: and aristotle had
to face
this desert before his eyes : here, you did what you
thought best, and here's what came of it, your students
trying
to force innocent men
to
take part inb murders
to avoid retribution.
mircea_popescu: nevermind phaedo. socrates
tried, his whole life,
to make people capable of standing on
their own. and his products, among which plato is a minor outlier, held
that bloody affair, where most of
the city was gutted.
zx2c4: im being interrupted now, but ill be back in a while
to continue
this
zx2c4: not sure i have
the same interpretation of phaedo as you
mircea_popescu: do you understand
the
terrible shame plato was, for socrates ?
mircea_popescu: zx2c4 so i
take it you're familiar with history as retold by
the esl : how socrates died, and how plato did not die.
zx2c4: yea, sure, im pretty certain of what it'd
take
to be financially viable in either philosophy or jazz music.
that's not something universally available and
there's a lot of luck involved, however, and even
then it's a pretty rough life. it's not even available
to all
types of philosophy study and all
types of jazz music.
mircea_popescu: but i affirm
that you equivocate "lesiure", in
that your idea of leisure is never what occured when actual civilisation was produced.
zx2c4: i'm not saying everyone with leisure _does_ do something worthwhile with it. but you cant deny
that leisure is in many cases a necessary precondition for many great aspects of civilization
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: zx2c4 but you are aware how
the economics of either greek philosophy or jazz music worked irl ?
zx2c4: for example, i've spent my life studying greek philosophy and playing jazz music, and it doesn't pay anything. hence programming. but
the economics of
those activities doesn't really relate
to
their quality or importance
mircea_popescu: zx2c4 so where's
the 500 rembrandts ? (do you know
the reference ?)
zx2c4: i don't
think so. plenty of people with
the necessary leisure study or create literature, philosophy, music, art -- great aspects of civilization for which
there isn't always an immediate economic incentive
mircea_popescu: tis infinitely better
to be a promising systems developer
than
to be a guy who wasn't cool enough for
the chunk of bitcoin he got.
mircea_popescu: and in all cases
the answer comes back again and again, "i was an inadequate successor
to a greater past".
zx2c4: some rich kids seem
to use
their funds
to pursue interesting
things and deepen
their character with
those experiences. others waste away
their
time.
mircea_popescu: "What were you in
this life ?" is no small matter. and yes it requires a correct answer ; what's
the
trust fund do for
that ?
zx2c4: the point is
that
the grandson rarely has problems answering correctly
to
too many questions
that necessitate correct responses
mircea_popescu: occasionally hollywood nuts leave pets behind in
the ~same situation also.
they get a daily pellet and so on.
mircea_popescu: but what is
the difference ? some ancestor decided
to preserve his degeneration. as a rock or as a grandson, whatever. are
they more
than
this ?
zx2c4: one difference is
that
the ruins aren't people, not
that
they are, obviously. not sure i'm getting your rhetorical point...
mircea_popescu: you're not about
to
tell me
these shambling ruins are people or something.
mircea_popescu: and i know jewish cemeteries with upkept graves. what's
the difference ?
zx2c4: i know a lot of rich people with
trust funds set up by
their ancestors.
they receive fixed income every month, and otherwise aren't hassled
mircea_popescu: you have
to answer questions, and answer
them correctly, and for ~all
time.
mircea_popescu: money has specific needs of you, duh. what, you
think it cares about your family ?
zx2c4: how does
that necessarily lead
to "being stupid"? what if i just choose
to raise a boring family and live a boring life?
mircea_popescu: if you want a lot of monyz, business is
the only way.
there, you risk losing it, and you learn what it is and how it works. if
that's not of your interest, you can never have it. period. even if you
think you do, for whatever reason. are you familiar with
the all-amusing ers example ?
zx2c4: the reason is actually, "so
that i can have a fixed income without any concrete labor obligations"
☟︎ mircea_popescu: zx2c4 looky,
the only reason you want "an infinity of monyz" is "so
that i don't have
to
tihnk of monyz anymore", which is simply
the way you've rephrased "so i can be stupid with impunity" in a way
to meet your blindspots.
zx2c4: i realize
that's
the classic
trope -- it's
the kind of
thing you read about all
the
time
zx2c4: i dont
think it'd
translate into any kind of significant "power beyond my means"
douchebag: once
trinque vertifies
that's
the issue you'll repay
them mircea_popescu - correct ?
mircea_popescu: zx2c4
this certainty is borne out of nothing in particular. i've been sitting here for many years, watching many kinds and sorts of people getting power beyond
their means.
douchebag: yeah because SluttyDiamond is having
the same problem
zx2c4: oh, i really don't
think
that'd be
the case
mircea_popescu: and in exactly
the way a
toddler suddenly getting 2000 Nm impulse would be worse off.
zx2c4: the latter point -- because you suppose i'd convert it
to EUR and
that'd harm BTC in general?
mircea_popescu: zx2c4 you'd be
terribly worse off, and so would be
the bitcoin ecosystem.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: douchebag it's almost certainly due
to
their not having had keys ; because otherwise payments work.
zx2c4: to put differently, if 2000 BTC suddenly showed up in 1ASnTs4UjXKR8tHnLi9yG42n42hbFYV2um, I'd be quite happy and don't
think i'd be worse off
mircea_popescu: evolution at work,
the reason
the fish doesn't remove
the bloodsucker is
that
the bloodsucker is so designed as
to sit in
the fish's blind spot.
mircea_popescu: zx2c4 understand,
this self-flattering notion
that you're in control is bunk. you're in no position
to be in control in
that sense. all
that you're filtering for by
that mechanism is "bullshit deal i don't comprehend". which... of course you would be.
zx2c4: i'd be wary of any 'deal'
that's different from: 'i'm given money. you're given warm feelings of having helped
the internet.'
☟︎ mircea_popescu: zx2c4 it relates specifically
to
the "which is why real funding for wireguard would be so much better". no, it wouldn 't be. you'd just end up
trapped in some sort of bullshit deal.
zx2c4: i still dont see how
this applies
to my situation,
mircea_popescu: costa rica is starting
to rub off on me, biodiversidad Y
TECHNODIVERSIDAD!
BingoBoingo: So many experiments in programming
the wetware
today!
mircea_popescu: i promise you it's worth
the read ; if you read it and
think otherwise you can come here an' complain.
mircea_popescu: zx2c4 it's more generally about how
the whole sucker business works.
zx2c4: mircea_popescu:
this article is about making a company right? i'm not doing
that. im just writing painstaking careful code and giving it
to
the world for free
☟︎ zx2c4: rare occurrence with FLOSS
though
mircea_popescu: kinda why i never bothered ; basically
the whole "tech" imperial flea circus is
this game of
trying
to outsource your costs on a sucker. whether it's ugc or gsoc, or "investing" or w/e else.
zx2c4: large part of
the student motivation is
the mentoring, i suppose
zx2c4: yea. it pays worse
than real internships. so
the pool of students willing
to do it is smaller
than what you'd wish
mircea_popescu: except of course if
they're also dreaming of great
towering riches in exchange for doing what
they were going
to do anyway.
zx2c4: mostly really under-qualified applicants. but if you already know students who are smart, or have some better means of reaching out
to
them
than just
the gsoc landing page,
then it's possible
to hand select people you'd like
to work on stuff, and give
them summer funding.
mircea_popescu: zx2c4 how's
that work out btw ? i vaguely considered it for eulora but never actually bothered
to push
the point.
mircea_popescu: douchebag maybe i checked
too late. anyway, ima wait for
the man
to come by and set
this straight.
zx2c4: mircea_popescu: for
the most part,
though
trying
to get some interns
this summer via GSoC