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asciilifeform: but yeah, iirc it was strictly either tyan and asus, pick.
asciilifeform: ebay. bad sign.
asciilifeform: !~google socket 1207 motherboard
asciilifeform: ('these' being my opterons or mircea_popescu's phenoms)
asciilifeform: and the originals, are scarcer than the chips
asciilifeform: because current ones - won't
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-06#1597510 << btw to briefly revisit thread: it would also be worthwhile to find ~what was the last mobo~ that ate these. ☝︎
asciilifeform tried to get ben_vulpes's thing to display this before linking, no dice
asciilifeform: in other lulz, https://blockchain.info/tx/d38bd67153d774a7dab80a055cb52571aa85f6cac8f35f936c4349ca308e6380
asciilifeform: so they can do whateverses.
asciilifeform: per traditional u.s. law, 'posse comitatus' (19th c. prohibition on soldiers enforcing laws) does not apply in washington .
asciilifeform: the mega-lul here is that this is a crock o'shit
asciilifeform: 'JFHQ-NCR operates within the scope of the law. It will not engage in direct law enforcement activities, but when requested by civil authorities and approved by the civilian leadership of DOD, it supports civil authorities in their public safety missions. Existence of a JFHQ enables better planning by all parties, to the benefit of the public.'
asciilifeform: lulzy.
asciilifeform: uld never sing for him."'
asciilifeform: 'Mormon Tabernacle Choir... ... The group is based out of Salt Lake City, Utah, and dates back to the founding of the Mormon Church. ... It has some 360 members, but the decision to participate in Trump's Inauguration caused one member to leave. Jan Chamberlin said she was dropping out of the group and wrote on Facebook with reference to the inaugural performance: "I only know I could never 'throw roses to Hitler.' And I certainly co
asciilifeform: (iirc chinese?)
asciilifeform: wasn't yoyoma 1 d00d ? cellist.
asciilifeform: lulzily enough i have a crate with the 7700k coming in today (to put in a heathentron), will see how it worx.
asciilifeform: aha. old noose.
asciilifeform: nobody's making cpus no moar.
asciilifeform: ( from arse tech, https://archive.is/tJyF6 )
asciilifeform: while we're in cpuwank mode, 'The Intel Core i7-7700K is what happens when a chip company stops trying. The i7-7700K is the first desktop Intel chip in brave new post-"tick-tock" world—which means that instead of major improvements to architecture, process, and instructions per clock (IPC), we get slightly higher clock speeds and a way to decode DRM-laden 4K streaming video. Huzzah.'
asciilifeform: (no sata3.)
asciilifeform: i like 3ware. but it will also never win any speed contest.
asciilifeform: incidentally this is a good small research project -- 'what was the last pre-fritzing opteron'
asciilifeform: the 2393se is the newest one i've personally tested.
asciilifeform: more or less any pre-2011 opteron.
asciilifeform: (which happily lives in 'harem' of up to 32 iirc.)
asciilifeform: otherwise -- opteron
asciilifeform: if you run 1socket rigs -- them
asciilifeform: i get'em used, because they are ~indestructible. but yes.
asciilifeform: (must point out, though, opteron was not a cheap-side chip, and the mobo that ate it -- also was not, was top-of-the-line in amd world)
asciilifeform: funnily enough it was approx 2k of 2016-printolade's worth.
asciilifeform: ok to be perfectly clear, i compared 2 boxes, one -- the aforementioned crapple, one -- a 2x2393SE.
asciilifeform: 2393 SE ( https://archive.is/4XXYQ ) circa 2009. so actually ~8 !
asciilifeform: in my case, 6 years
asciilifeform: but gotta compare to same-period comp.
asciilifeform: and yeah lappy is to actual comp as sapper's spade is to excavator.
asciilifeform: the crapple is ~impossible to do anything serious on. wtf, gdb
asciilifeform: (behind schedule , behind 3 other things!)
asciilifeform: i realized that this is comical a while back and started building a new 'toilet' box , but it isn't done yet.
asciilifeform: (a la dulap)
asciilifeform: if you buy ddr3 you may as well stuff it full of 'xeon'
asciilifeform: it rowhammers.
asciilifeform: i dun use ddr3 on hygienic boxes.
asciilifeform: *possibly
asciilifeform: the one where one box has ddr2 and the other ddr3 possible.
asciilifeform: sadly this is not so in practice.
asciilifeform: best amd box i have is a 2socket x 2393SE.
asciilifeform: i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz
asciilifeform: (and yes, a lappy)
asciilifeform: as for the crapple, it has roughly half of the cpu horse as dulap.
asciilifeform: also to be absolutely rigorously correct, 'phenom' series ~could~ be coaxed into using ecc ram, but only 'unbuffered' variant (so no 16-stick monster rig). what it wouldn't do is to run in multisocket mobo (which is what i use)
asciilifeform: on any parameter but hygiene.
asciilifeform: and no, unfortunately it does ~not~ beat the 2016 crapple.
asciilifeform: so what mircea_popescu just recommended was 'buy the same box that was too slow, but sans ecc'...
asciilifeform: what it is, is the konsoomer version of the opteron i actually have in the box i am sitting on nao!
asciilifeform: or hm, 9500 is not!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's a 'modern' chip, and fritzed.
asciilifeform: (neither is the crapple)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fx is not a ecc chip
asciilifeform: (all of my full-sized mircea_popescu-style comps are 'bearded', this comes with using pre-obummer amd iron.)
asciilifeform: i should add, the crapple was also the fastest box i had available locally.
asciilifeform: there was some supposed workaround involving self-generated ssl certs but it dun wurk
asciilifeform: davout: anything that uses debug hooks, catches fire & dies
asciilifeform: i shit thee not
asciilifeform: MANDATORY CODE SIGNING
asciilifeform: because... guess....
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: phun phakt, i replicated phuctor on a mac lappy (it happened to be the one in the room with sufficient free disk) and it works -- except that apparently gdb no longer works on latest crapple os ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: e.g., knowing how much power, to the microamp, victim is drawing; or time; etc
asciilifeform: davout: side channel isn't magic, you gotta actually ~have~ the side channel
asciilifeform: if you are willing to work with an open arse
asciilifeform: the other 'abuse tool' you can get is internal pcie to external slot snake
asciilifeform: (full bus speed!)
asciilifeform: theoretically x16 pcie!
asciilifeform: Framedragger, mircea_popescu : apparently nowadays you can buy 'thunderbolt' to pcie expanders, if the machine has this plug. (i have not tested this variant.)
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-06#1597368 << more than one thread. ~which~ side channel are you interested in, davout ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: it worx (they come with varying number of bus lanes, see how many in yours)
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-06#1597384 << i used a similar device to connect fpga card to thinkpad, coupla years ago ☝︎
asciilifeform: لا إله إلا الله محمد رسول الله!
asciilifeform: apparently my nick is 'never registered' on somewhere b/w 1/2 to 2/3 of all fleanode boxen
asciilifeform: gotta love fleanode
asciilifeform: in other lulz, http://www.crimeflare.com/russia.html
asciilifeform: aha
asciilifeform: (exercise for reader, to understand why)
asciilifeform: incidentally thermovisor will also show you studs
asciilifeform: 'ought to' is of limited use.
asciilifeform: aha if you like drilling into yer pipes.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: http://www.toolsofthetrade.net/hand-tools/layout-tools/dewalt-wall-scanner-teardown_o
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo's is from 19th c or wat
asciilifeform: and they're densitometric not magnetic, wtf
asciilifeform: lul didja read the thing backwards or wat
asciilifeform: (will also show you who, or what, is alive in parked vans, but best observed quietly)
asciilifeform: speaking of shit wiring, thermovisor will show you some very interesting things in an old house.
asciilifeform: in so far as can tell with naked eye, and with the sensors, it was built 'by the book'.
asciilifeform: it's a standard american 15amp circuit
asciilifeform: view what
asciilifeform: but enough to push the 'dead' cap-less unit over the edge, briefly.
asciilifeform: not enough of a spike to propagate down the wire to where i have the plotter