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ascii_lander: but if
trinque wants
to do his, i can put him on kvm
mircea_popescu: cool. ascii_lander you using
trinque 's recipe or own device ?
diana_coman: engentootation by ascii_lander's own hands sounds good
to me
mircea_popescu: it occurs
to me : next
trip could actually be bingoboingo himself ?
ascii_lander: ( 100% of cargo racked btw.
tho some of
the rails had
to be bent, i bent'em back by hand lol )
ascii_lander: mircea_popescu:
took pic. will upload when i get back
to room where
the photo-extraction cable is
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron, so are you going
to become
the al soto v2.0 ? historically
the guy did a lot
trying
to get
the
thing online, with mixed success.
mircea_popescu: ascii_lander, pic
the lovebirds, i'm curious if any of
the weight rubbed back off on him!
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, oh
the why not irc, i'd have
to ask for more specifics but generally he's pretty busy as it is, and he doesn't like
to hang out with non believers
too much
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron, it's not world-readable in principle, but you can just lock it
to yourself only without drawbacks also.
ascii_lander is on a pingpong
table in BingoBoingo's coworkery, freeloading on a sp pronounciation lesson by very puurty venezolana chixx
danielpbarron: is it not a good idea
to allow all on
this directory? is it not protected in
the same way
the rest of wp-admin is? via username/password SESSION or w/e?
ascii_lander: of greater concern is
trinque's machine; i am starting
to
think
that one of his sub-blades has overheat issue
danielpbarron: aha, i see
the problem. js/.htaccess had "deny from all"
ascii_lander: ( it needs a dr mengele job re
the power cord )
ascii_lander: mircea_popescu: you can have dulap's gentoo, or make own when
the ipkvm comes online
tonight
mircea_popescu: but
the why not was re " he's not interested in doing
the whole irc
thing".
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron, sounds like permission issue on
the js dir. check all your htaccesses.
danielpbarron: right now i'm
trying
to figure out why
the pretty urls
thing broke my edit-post
thing
to where
the handy "insert link/blockquote" buttons disappeared
☟︎ mircea_popescu: ah. well, same
to you, except you';re already registered lol.
danielpbarron: i shall write up a blog post
to link
to
them i guess
mircea_popescu: have him register himself, get a cloak, he's silly dreaming of south california while eschewing
this wonder.
danielpbarron: i meant me doing it. he's not interested in doing
the whole irc
thing on a regular basis
mircea_popescu: well, if he does it in channel he'll prolly get whacked. if he pms
them... whatever. maybe freenode won't like it.
danielpbarron: would it be over
the
top
to warn each and every one of
them? probably spammy i figured
danielpbarron: btw Darwin said he was glad some chix showed up while he was in here, so
that he could give
them a warning
danielpbarron: "huh what's
that for? i'm here
to show you my ADA bitcointron i wrote"
mircea_popescu: douchebag, for
the record,
this
thing whereby you get a coupla in, wait for
them
to be processed, get another coupla in etc is not only dumb, but against
the very concept of a batch. get all of
them in, save me
the
trouble of having
to handle n batches.
deedbot: 1E2A462B7D3948185C0D6A5AA099DF103B50478E registered as
TammyLol.
danielpbarron: yes but you can hold against
the false churches,
theire own
translations!
mircea_popescu: the ancient "a philanthropist is
the guy who gives me money so i can do what i was going
to do in
the first place".
mircea_popescu: "well gee! if you can
trnaslate it for me, why can't it all be about what i want
to do anyway ?"
mircea_popescu: they're
the necessary fruit of "here, learning languages is
too hard, we
translated it for you"
mircea_popescu: anyway,
to get back
to
the 2nd fold of
the error :
the NOTION of
translation is pernicious, and stuff like
the protestant lulz of "church of self-esteem" or "we choose
to emphasize <bla>" are not unbound errors.
☟︎ danielpbarron: Mark 10:25 It is easier for a camel
to go
through
the eye of a needle
than for a rich man
to enter
the kingdom of God. 26 And
they were greatly astonished, saying among
themselves, "Who
then can be saved?" 27 But Jesus looked at
them and said, "With men it is impossible, but not with God; for with God all
things are possible."
danielpbarron: i don't see
the point, as it's not part of
the Bible
danielpbarron: ^
there is hope for even you mircea_popescu, for
there have been rulers of
the world who praised
the
true God
danielpbarron: Daniel 4:37 37 Now I, Nebuchadnezzar, praise and extol and honor
the King of heaven, all of whose works are
truth, and His ways justice. And
those who walk in pride He is able
to put down.
danielpbarron: 1 John 2:19
They went out from us, but
they were not of us; for if
they had been of us,
they would have continued with us; but
they went out
that
they might be made manifest,
that none of
them were of us.
danielpbarron: the false churches are wicked in everything
they do, even when what
they do is good
mircea_popescu: sure, here. i meant with
the religious practice abroad.
mircea_popescu: it is, if it were what occured. most of
the
time it's not what occured.
danielpbarron: if
there is one person in
the fellow
that won't consent
to wholesome words, and everyone else withdraws, is
that not like casting
the one out?
mircea_popescu: compare and contrast
the handling of #b-a / #trilema split and rando "incorrectly minded" etc. withdraw yourself from egregious idiocy of a pernicious bent, sure. but...
mircea_popescu: are you stuck maintaining god's wot now ? why, because he's
too stupid
to know how
to work
the rating system ?
danielpbarron: 1
Timothy 6:3 If anyone
teaches otherwise and does not consent
to wholesome words, even
the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and
to
the doctrine which accords with godliness, 4 he is proud, knowing nothing, but is obsessed with disputes and arguments over words, from which come envy, strife, reviling, evil suspicions, 5 useless wranglings[a] of men of corrupt minds and destitute of
the
truth, who suppose
that godliness is a means of gain. From
danielpbarron: if someone won't consent
to wholesome words,
they are without faith and should be cast out
mircea_popescu: yes, but it is never because of a misread and always because of an erection. referring
to
the sources never fixed
the latter.
danielpbarron: when you rebuke a fellow, you should have scripture
to cite
mircea_popescu: so what do you need a
translation for
then, just use
their string as-is.
danielpbarron: we come accross people all
the
time who claim
to believe in God, and
then deny what
their own
translation says about Him
danielpbarron: it's helpful
to have
translations when contending with others
danielpbarron: i'd like
to eventually get Darwin's
translation up as a html rather
than
the pdf it's currently in
mircea_popescu: so
then what's
the use of
these suitable substitutes ?
danielpbarron: God chooses (before
they are born) who will believe. If He wants you
to be saved, He can do it whether you can read or not. He could miraculously make you literate, not
that such a
thing is even required
mircea_popescu: eaning, as captured in "traddutore,
tradditore" or otherwise in english "conversion" as
the form of
theft.
mircea_popescu: anyway,
the argument against
translating is
twofold, and leaving
the first obvious fold aside (hey, perfect
translations may be impossible, but good
translations do exist, and
that's
the job of
the exceptional person, wtf else -- anania did it in romanian, and others did it before, it is not entirely impossible) : it introduces
the NOTION of
translation. i dunno if you're familiar with
the meaning of
that
term,
the original m
mircea_popescu: were
the book written in
this heavenly
tongue, it'd be immediately readable i guess. but it factually is not.
danielpbarron: do i need
to speak heavenese
to hear
this declaration?
jhvh1: danielpbarron: [KJV] Psalms 97:6 ::
The heavens declare his righteousness, and all
the people see his glory.
trinque: danielpbarron: how can you judge
that without reading (and loading
the
time's literary graph into skull)
the ancient original
mircea_popescu: "suitable" may work in some contexts ; but in
this one
the word is already
the seal of doom, you've lost.
danielpbarron: i
think
the kjv and nkjv are suitable english
translations
mircea_popescu: kinda why
the original argument against "translating
the scripture" is so strong. and yes it was a mistake.
mircea_popescu: i can also read phf's code, "can read" is a low standard in
this context.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-21 18:32 mircea_popescu: because no, words don't "have meanings". your meanings for ANY WORD are a function of ALL
THE OTHER WORDS YOU KNOW. which is why my definitions regularily blow out english dictionaries, wikipedia and other sources of "wisdom" out of
the water - i know more words, and in
this knowledge i know all
the words i know ~better~. infinitely and irreproducibly so.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-11 18:37 mircea_popescu:
this is how it manages
the inapproximable "whisks" of meaning
that latin-style
then has so much
trouble noting down.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron, but
the discussion was re his
teens and early 20s.
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, re greek
texts, drawin can read greek hebrew and aramaic, and is working on his own
translation of
the Bible
jhvh1: danielpbarron: [KJV]
Titus 1:6 :: If any be blameless,
the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly.
jhvh1: danielpbarron: [KJV]
Titus 1:5 :: For
this cause left I
thee in Crete,
that
thou shouldest set in order
the
things
that are wanting, and ordain elders in every city, as I had appointed
thee:
mircea_popescu: "oh, so and so
term means bla bla" motherfuckers, makes my skin crawl just
thinking about it.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-16 18:39
trinque: pretty great name for a pastor
though.
mircea_popescu: trinque, his other misfortune is of course environmental hazards. strikes me as a clever fellow who'd have benefitted immensely by spending his youth among people who could read
the original greek
texts, rather
than in
the mindless hive of pests "quoting" bits at each other.
the functional illiteracy of
the protestant church crowd wrt classic languages is patently offensive. picture "security expert" conversant in php yet una
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron, you know
that jewish
thing, "if wealth is a curse let god strike me down with it, and may i never recover"
trinque: this before even evaluating whether
the magic happenings in
the book were credible