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ozbot: BitBet - Bitcoin to drop under $400 before June
fluffypony: hah hah - this was posted re: the < $400 slump: http://i.imgur.com/2bVRHRX.jpg
truff1es: $$$$
nubbins`: to make it worth $500, you'd need to save ~$21/mo by switching providers
nubbins`: TomServo: fair enough, but worth an extra $500?
nubbins`: i pay, i think, $50/mo
nubbins`: TomServo: $0
nubbins`: $700 straight-up or $200 on a two-year contract
nubbins`: or you spend the extra $500, and two years later, you own your phone
keonne: well lets see, $500 phone you get for $250 because you sign a 2 year contract paying ~60-80 a month. 
nubbins`: suppose you save $500 by getting a subsidy. at the end of your two-year contract, you own your phone
keonne: my phone was $200
nubbins`: if you drop your $500 phone so often that you need to put it in a case, maybe you shouldn't have one
pLambert: imagine if Warren Buffet wanted to buy shares of his company back based onthe dividends: $0.00 to you, shareholders
nubbins`: dell will uninstall windows and refund you the $25, as long as you don't turn on your new laptop and pay shipping both ways
nubbins`: mostly because you're paying microsoft $25
Azelphur: for those not in the know, if he had that running since November, he'd have made about $20k worth of BTC.
cgcardona_: nubbins`: $5 and not 0.1BTC ?
TestingUnoDosTre: think of positions like Senator , which makes like $175k or something.
thestringpuller: $depth mpoe
ThickAsThieves: ugh "Actually, what is needed is to leave it as property but add an exemption for the first $X0,000 of gain, which is what other countries are doing, particularly in Europe. That way it can effectively function as a currency, but investors who go long also get favorable tax treatment."
decimation: I guess this is why it only costs $1 to ship anything from hong kong
decimation: They beg to get $100k to pay $100k, in the best case
decimation: just like Mr. Zuckerberg's campaign to import foreign engineer-slaves - who will beg to pay $100k to pay $100k
decimation: why does she have to living in the middle of SV? So that Elon can get a burrito for $6?
decimation: Not to mention, there are thousands of other localities where $12 an hour easily pays for housing
MGK: I have a few deals on there, 1 for over $10k with Goat
bounce: so it's get in free and don't critique or get in for $$$ and sing hosannas along with the prophets
bounce: $400 entrance fee, or whatever it was, just to ask scammers why they be scammin'?
nubbins`: if bitcoin magazine has to charge $99 for a year subscription because their readership is so small, imagine what a year of trilema would cost
ThickAsThieves: $10 worth of bitcoin has got me through a year of trilema
thestringpuller: $99.95
nubbins`: i mean, you can still get a 1br slum for $500
nubbins`: 5 years ago you could find the same 1br for $600
nubbins`: 2-3br for $1000-1200 for something nice
nubbins`: $330nzd per week for a 1br?!
mircea_popescu: in other news, us rents now $330 ?!
asciilifeform: the most frustrating part is the folly of the engineers, who salivate after the '$300k sv job'
mircea_popescu: <kanzure> kids out of school are making $90-$100k in the bay area <<< sure. but the 10 year veteran is not making 5-10mn.
decimation: assuming you lack a competent technician, it would probably be $1000's
asciilifeform: everyone loves the $500 hammer. but how many people who laugh at the hammer have ever built a one-off prototype of anything?
MisterE: $500 hammers :0
decimation: 27 year old with a wife gets $2800 tax-free per month
kanzure: sure. i wouldn't be willing to go into an office for $150k.
asciilifeform: 'I wouldn't be willing to develop in javascript for $300k' << this goes back to the original point i was trying to make, when i mentioned hunting for flat (i generally don't discuss crap like this without a good reason) -
decimation: I wouldn't be willing to develop in javascript for $300k
decimation: at some point the harvard MBA is going to ask "Why are we paying this guy $300k when we could hire 20 Indians for the same?"
asciilifeform: a much smaller set actually provides $maxint of value
decimation: there are many details missing here, but it seems to me that kanzure is basically saying that big gov't/corps are willing to pay $100x to get what they could otherwise pay $x to get
asciilifeform: kanzure: the way i understand it, this is not how markets actually work. if i'm the only one who knows how to build xxx, i don't get to collect $maxint for building an xxx. simply, xxx doesn't get made.
asciilifeform: i don't dispute that there live unique specialists who are paid $xxx k for something that could be described as 'engineering.' but most of them are on some kind of physical leash, however long.
decimation: kanzure, are you implying that one with suitable skills can easily make $300k without "knowing" the "right people"?
asciilifeform: except in the wonderful case described earlier, where a chumper pays $250k to live near 300k job
decimation: these same $300k vp's famously conspired to underpay said engineers
decimation: okay, let's pretend that 15 year veterans are all making $300k - when a reasonable home is $1 mil, they are still pretty poor
kanzure: the poll is only to help idiots calibrate that $90k is low-end of the scale
asciilifeform: engineer who has to pay $100k to live within range of his $150k employer, cannot be described even as 'well to do' ☟︎
kanzure: at *minimum* the metric is +$1k/month per year of experience
kanzure: well, from personal experience i'd say at least $.. oh, yeah, definitely more than 150
decimation: I bet not more than $150k
kanzure: kids out of school are making $90-$100k in the bay area
decimation: but they make $100k
decimation: no rational engineer would work there for less than $300k per year
asciilifeform: 'you grew up in our glorious motherland? still want to leave, bastard? fine - pony up $1mil, to cover the cost of building you'
decimation: you can live aboard a boat docked at baltimore for a few $k per year
decimation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_George%27s_County_Public_Schools "Budget: US$1.6 Billion"
asciilifeform: 'i have $xxxx.' 'sorry, you can't get - shit - for $xxxx' - or for '$xxxxx'
asciilifeform: imagine paying $3k/mo for a building with no garbage disposal
chetty: hahaha save the man some travel $$
MisterE: sounds like CCS was set up just to offload the blame for that retarded $9mil USD XP support contract.
MisterE: $9 mil ouch http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2337930/windows-xp-thrown-last-minute-lifeline-with-gbp55m-uk-government-deal
cgcardona_: try to grab a tea and chips "oh sorry it has to be $5." "ok just double the order"
cgcardona_: $5.00 minimum payments at gas stations etc have been making me buy double the crap I want for years
bounce: ``The Bitcoin Foundation is basically the official establishment of a loose collection of technology geeks, businessmen, and big-government skeptics from around the world. The 18-month-old group has thousands of members, plus roughly $3 million in dues and donations contributed in bitcoins.''
Shakespeare: than $6 billion. "
VanCleef: man i feel sorry for ex firefox ceo, just because you donate $1000 dollars to a anti gay marriage campaign you get fired, that's some serious heterophobic stuff
thestringpuller: or more $2 lemonade sold for $0.50
thestringpuller: a $2 lemo bought for $0.50, change in btc
chatquack: buy a $2 lemo and pay with a $50, change in btc.
chatquack: I think there is a sub $100 wifi-3g huuhaa in this state, not sure about coverage though.
asciilifeform: if embarking on this, get an ion diffusion 2nd stage pump from a university surplus. $100 or so where i live.
bounce: what's wrong with institutions that $person dies, $institution dies is preferrable?
asciilifeform: to be fair, i did blow $xxxx of lunch money modernizing my bench. but that's not an s.nsa expense item.
rithm: step five $$$
nubbins`: what's a plane ride cost, $1?
punkman: $depth x.eur
punkman: that's a really weird design for the $2k option though
punkman: ABS pellets are like $100 for 1000kg
punkman: $300/kg ABS filament for those
moiety: only <$5k!
bounce: not just that. there's been cases where the gold key image had some virus or other, causing $largenum of usb keys to ship that way from factory
ozbot: BitBet - Bitcoin to drop under $400 before June
ozbot: BitBet - Bitcoin to drop under $400 before June
diametric: I was next to him at Makerfaire NYC, its a crazy machine but like $10K USD in cost for a very marginal improvement over a similar $2K machine.
cads: I estimate $200-$300 to have the stuff made
cads: so right now my clients feel too cheap to pay $60 design fee, _and_ they find out how much I ostensibly work.
Mats_cd03: i think charging $100 for every design would serve you well
cads: I've got a small virtual firm, with just one client that gives us a $1K job every couple of weeks
jborkl: but yeah $13 to $7? with pirate was pretty nasty, I thought it was over then
jborkl: idk $266 to $50 was rough