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benkay: you don't rent servers this is bitcoin
benkay: u can't bitcoin, u no has bitcoin eventually
benkay: you're investigating this months old thing where someone tried to slip in under the wire of a bet before it closed, but sent from a not-really-a-wallet-wallet and so didn't have a txn fee, which meant their txn had to wait for the first friendly miner including zero fee blocks.
benkay: if you can't handle txn fees, and you don't understand their impact on transactions, you don't hold bitcoin for long.
benkay: a logical person wouldn't smell anything but stupid
benkay: basically some idiot had a dependency in his financial toolchain whose impacts on sending money he didn't understand.
benkay: people who don't understand how things actually work are generally going to fuck themselves.
benkay: it may as well say "because he's an idiot who doesn't understand the bitcoin protocol"
benkay: no because his transaction didn't clear before the deadline
benkay: i can't even fathom the mind that decided that a return to the broken past was necessary.
benkay: "I saw JR Willet present at Bitcoin 2013 conference in San Jose. He struck me as an honest guy, well intentioned, and smart. That's why I don't think Mastercoin is a scam."
Duffer1: i haven't looked at it myself so can't say either way
KRS|Gotyawallet: Ain't levin no presents...ain't tastin no cookie..straight up gankin.
KRS|Gotyawallet: Thats how everyone knows Jesus and Santa Claus were white. A picture of a black Jesus doesn't even look right.
Duffer1: didn't you just say you hate gambling? :P
benkay: i'm interested in the notion of cheating as a prerequisite for success, and how most americans don't get this. gotta be a part of the socialist thought repression...
mircea_popescu: if you ain't cheatin' you ain't tryin'.
mod6: Perhaps we'll all look back in 25 years and realize that it has already started, just that the switch hasn't been flipped to "rock & roll" yet.
benkay: real world moves slowly. us ain't gonna collapse day after bitcoin arrives.
mod6: (who was really suprised about the RSA/NSA news anyway?) I don't think there is a single software or hardware producer in the US that trust. Not that I perhaps ever did, but now its all out there!!
Duffer1: i want one so i don't have to keep reinstalling gpg4win everytime i want to auth
mircea_popescu: i don't think apple for instance would have a problem with making a system that doesn't work with any computing hardware in the world.
mircea_popescu: i can't use wikipedia for this purpose
mircea_popescu: but if you didn't have the luxury to make it more complicated than that ?
mircea_popescu: isn't it the case that the situation summarizes as "the russki folks came up with the idea of trying out alternative logix, made the setun, proved thereby the thing is a waste of time" ?
mircea_popescu: and since we're on that logic topic : don't you find it that if indeed you go for 1 false then it would make sense to get rid of the ancient&antiquated binary logic model ?
mircea_popescu: apparently "we switched true and false around notwithstanding this breaks the logic / arithmetic superimposition" isn't quite as big
mircea_popescu: not because there aren't eggregiously bad examples peppered everywhere, but because it is the one phrase that came back underlined in all the review copies i sent out
mircea_popescu: or maybe you wouldn't. "mit still running fortran". big whoop.
benkay: fuck bitches, get bitcoin. daytrading's for shitheels who can't promote bitcoin into their wallets by driving back the forces of entropy.
dj_jazzy_jeff_: i don't ever buy into a pump its just not smart move, alecpap we share the same name
Duffer1: oh ya i wouldn't mine any of those crap coins for more than a couple days after launch
Duffer1: isn't that still just 40nm?
Duffer1: i'd be surprised if they aren't designing miner specific cards right now
Duffer1: if that was a bitbet i wouldn't put money on either side
Duffer1: it won't work, but will be amusing to watch them try
Duffer1: i don't think*
Duffer1: i don't they will until they believe they have a way to control
Duffer1: i don't think we can make fun of that one... :P
Duffer1: doesn't even have a central issuing authority
Vexual: i don't know if aa even exists in australia outside of innercity lezzo sex parties
Duffer1: but i don't process anxiety or panic like a normal person, so i'm totally fine if my neighbors house is on fire
Duffer1: i wouldn't want to find out hehe
Duffer1: if i don't have to leave my house for it then ya that's ok :P
Duffer1: same thing with that as well, can't even eat stuff cooked with alcohol
Duffer1: i don't think it counts if they don't touch
benkay: !t m s.mpoe
mircea_popescu: pity i can't short it more.
mircea_popescu: if you went to the us army and said "you have to increase your firepower by 50%. you have one month. you can't get a bank loan for this"
mircea_popescu: i still don't know how they manage to be so well picked ffs.
Namworld: Not sure. I don't know how coinbase wallets are designed
Namworld: Not really. How would you prove you sent that transaction? You can't. A screenshot isn't good enough. I could make a screenshot and edit it 50 times for all amounts and claim all bets as mine.
nubbins`: a screenshot isn't proof
mircea_popescu: this means, not using shitty services that don't add a fee to txs, and not betting late.
mircea_popescu: if however you send in such a way that your transaction doesn't make it before the bet closes, you're screwed.
pankkake: I don't think you have a way to prove you were that transaction
zach_: not totally sure but i don't think i specified a different address to receive
pankkake: bitbet allows you to have a custom address, it won't necessarily use the sending address
mod6: bitcoin doesn't need the internet: http://trilema.com/2012/the-politics-of-bitcoin/
pankkake: I don't even understand how something so bad can exist
nubbins`: world war 3 will be different, in that it won't be called world war 3
fiat500: "This module is like violence: if it doesn't work, you just need more of it."
benkay: next computer my company actually buys me is a well-designed thing whose default ctags implementation doesn't recurse
BingoBoingo: I wouldn't mind a Macintosh SE/30 with less magic smoke than the last one produced.
benkay: but BingoBoingo wouldn't you like your platform to support true parallelized operation eh eh eh?
benkay: it's typically obvious after 2 weeks when they can't.
BingoBoingo: fiat500: Why shouldn't you be ale to change the system as it runs?
fiat500: BingoBoingo: i mean in the sense that many people who are using c++ don't really understand wtf is going on behind the scenes
benkay: hopefully ones fundamental data structures aren't evolving too quickly
BingoBoingo: Eh, At least we aren't debating SQL
BingoBoingo: I don't think .NET and OOP are equivalently problematic. OOP can be useful in cases. Somethings want to be objects. I mean CLOS is a thing. The problem is what happens once you make an object.
benkay: yeah i just can't accept FB as an example of a mature and sustained development environment delivering business value.
benkay: doesn't understand nonlinear comms overhead.
benkay: neither. i don't quite understand your comment about wheres and whys, tho.
benkay: but i gather that you don't actually need to be scripting python, and the cleaner the break with whatever your past is (Java especially), the easier of a time you're going to have wrapping your head around the functional approach.
benkay: obviously, i don't know anything about anything and my 'advice' on programming matters should be regarded as highly suspect
benkay: you wouldn't go learn to do things the wrong way just to hear your sensei tell you to pour out two years of practice, would you?
Duffer1: howcome there isn't a MP coin?
Duffer1: i wonder why sex coin didn't survive...
mircea_popescu: isn't it the guy;'s gf blogging there ?
mircea_popescu: most of which aren't actually true.
Duffer1: well he can't get it on SR any more so where else is he going to get hooked up?
mircea_popescu: anyway. i wonder how many shitty officers are breathing easy now, because they won't get fired because well... they dont' get drunk so it's all ok.
mircea_popescu: i say take his citizenship, he doesn't fit in.
mircea_popescu: you don't get root with amazon cloud.
ThickAsThieves: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_6p-1J551Y#t=129
asciilifeform: but you aren't really winning
mircea_popescu: i dunno what that site threw at me, but it didn't werk
mike_c: oh, you can't see it
mircea_popescu: you wanna be a car executive you don't show up at the vp meeting acting like you belong there
mircea_popescu: benkay there isn't a fixed fee. you negotiate it when you list.
mircea_popescu: there's not an "it", this isn't aluminum siding.
the20year: in other words i shouldn't be typing when i'm doing 5 other things and not paying attention to what goes on IRC
mikaeldice: Increased investment isn't growth
mircea_popescu: i don't think god himself can answer that.
mircea_popescu: bah, father. wasn't his father, they were barely related, nm me.
mircea_popescu: the schmuck that joan of arc wanted on the throne ain't so good either, and then with the 1789 revolutions you got plenty of nutty socialists to pick from
mircea_popescu: jurov well i don't include live people.
Duffer1: without the circus the bread isn't enough?
the20year: Smoot hawley is why I don't like him