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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is one of the reasons why i see malware artists as doing godly work, and wish to help them
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415656 << i'm so 100% with this you couldn't believe. ☝︎
asciilifeform: in more than a month of active combing, i was not able to dredge up so much as ONE adult implementation of c-s.
mircea_popescu: kinda like "i'm so cool i get my salary directly on my credit card, no need to use cash"
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415547 << ok i chuckled.\ ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 18:40:53; phf: their whole experience of su is through intourist propotainment and politruk control. who's going to let an american nobody in a company of the valuable products of soviet system. it's a needless risk. at best you get invited to some aparatchik family dinner and get to playbelieve "i was even friends with a russian family!"
mircea_popescu: i'd rather read kitsch, naomi klein's autobiography by naomi klein
mircea_popescu: dude wtf am, i reading.
asciilifeform: i predict that usg will come out with a 'doomed but lulzy' taintatron thing for ransom
mod6: ah, i see.
mod6: and since i have no clue "what lispers typically do", I'll ask: I usually read files one line at a time and then do things accordingly, is this a typical lisp convention? Or do most just read one word at a time and then do stuff?
danielpbarron: was considering betting against myself but decided against it because i figured if i was right, there would be a massive bet to follow anyway and it would just knock my percent down anyway; might as well stick with my first bet and hope a miracle happens
danielpbarron: i saw that bet coming
pete_dushenski: as also used to the methods we use in Zimbabwe when we get in these situations, so I said to him: " Come on Sir, what if I give you something? Will that speed up the process?" I'm sure he could tell from from my accent where I'm from so he looked me in the eye, lowered his voice and said to me softly : "Sir, you have just offered me a bribe. We don't do that around here."
pete_dushenski: "Now, in my first week in the states, something got trapped in the earphone jack of my laptop so I went to an Apple store to see if they can fix it. The genius there told me that he would need to first check it in and that I would only be able to come back and pick it up after four working days. I knew there were other computers in line before me and I really didn't think I could survive four days without a laptop an
phf: yeah, probably on the way out. i was there last about 8 years ago
asciilifeform: i ran into a few when i went to 'rur' at the czech embassy.
asciilifeform: phf: i think they're mostly old/dead now
pete_dushenski: phf: you're right, that's far more 'mediated' than i'd understood to be the case previously.
asciilifeform: i met these tourists, here.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: editing text is 99% of what i do as well
pete_dushenski: phf: that's very much why i specified '2nd-tier' ru city, though i suppose this was based on the presumption that most of the mediation was happening in larger urban centres, which i suppose statistically it must have been, but whether that made it easier or harder to break mediated mold in smaller centres isn't thereby granted as being in any way obvious, admittedly.
phf: their whole experience of su is through intourist propotainment and politruk control. who's going to let an american nobody in a company of the valuable products of soviet system. it's a needless risk. at best you get invited to some aparatchik family dinner and get to playbelieve "i was even friends with a russian family!" ☟︎
phf: american experience in su was highly mediated. i've had a chance to meet a handful of these "spent some time in su in the 80s" types, and at best their conclusion is "them russkies are no worse then us". not like they would be allowed to spend their leasure time in the company of my grandfather and his friends, etc.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: idk about you, but i edit text on display.
pete_dushenski: i wouldn't send them anywhere. it's not for me to lead their lives. but a couple of years in 2nd-tier city in 80s ru wouldn't have hurt.
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 07:22:41; ben_vulpes: aww i missed the cascadian-hunting ok cupid slut!
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415278 << haha family friend is lead counsel for wb asia pacific, based out of hk. i actually crashed at his place last time i was in town. ☝︎
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415346 << i hope we're all this fit 'tomorrow' ☝︎
pete_dushenski: " Double Dick Nightmare - A nightmarish dream involving voluntary double penetration of massive cocks." << i don't care what you say, this is a much funnier ddn
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=DDN | I woke up in a hot sweat due to a terrible DDN... It started with me being in a prison shower and dropping the soap. Did you get the new dvd of "White chicks and ...
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415090 << had ukrs been offered free land there a century ago and ro jews offered refuge there 50 years ago, i would've could've should've. but fi didn't, to my knowledge, do either such thing. so here we are. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i put it on teh list.
mircea_popescu: can;'t say as i have
asciilifeform: i'm sorta coming to terms with the fact that the year is 800 again
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and i say this with no prejudice to your fundamentally correct "stop thinking letters are numbers omfg what's wrong with you! are you greek ?! retarded ?!"
asciilifeform: possibly i see where mircea_popescu is going.
mircea_popescu: if i take a buffer, split it up in words, and give you some and him some, and you convert them to strings and give them back, i must be able to reconsturct the original buffer without possibility of error.
asciilifeform: i.e. elaborately enumerated crapola.
mircea_popescu: i did.
mircea_popescu: but today machines are 64 bit. for all i care your alphabet can be on 64 bit chars.
mircea_popescu: i would have been very firmly 8 bit in the old days
asciilifeform: i, like many ru folks, do this in the keyboard
asciilifeform: i am also not opposed to ^
mircea_popescu: also, i am not in the sliughtest against 16 bit chars.
asciilifeform: e.g., i flip a bit and now ????????
phf: i've been mulling over that question with logs. fwiw, entire log can be kept in memory for analysis, annotation, whatever, 180mb as utf-8 byte arrays. with unicode strings takes up twice the memory on 16-bit cmucl, and ~~4 times on 32-bit sbcl. i'm not yet convinced that transcoding everything you get into string and then transcoding it back to a bytearray onto the wire is the best strategy ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i'd personally much prefer unicode join the scrap heap with "pki", dns, ntp etc.
phf: raymond toy does, almost exclusively, code cleanup, bug fixes and work on floating point code (i think he maintains fortran to lisp compiler, that i think he used to (?) make big consulting money with)
phf: tradeoffs) and much better for floating. there's still a tightly integrated interpreter (i heard sbcl brought that back in recent releases), so doing eval even on early 2000s machines is almost instantaneous for repl work. memory usage is much much better (pretty sure sbcl core policy is "memory is cheap")
phf: i kind of look at it like version 0.5.3. there's barely any development on it, very little actively harmful code, if you don't count asdf 3.* in contribs. it works, it can be studied and improved upon, as it stands it's utterly ignored by the cool kids. there are also of course technical merits, the compiler is conceptually identical and on average almost as good (there were many micro optimizations done by sbcl team, but even they are
trinque: when I get around to it I'm going to pester the port maintainer to get a flavor going for that
phf: it's a bit down the pipeline for me. there were some attempts to make cmucl go entirely syscall, but as it stands it's probably 40% there. i want to link it to musl first, and then play around with control interfaces uses curses/cl-charm, which is when i'll test out this thing
asciilifeform: i wish i had time to test this.
kakobrekla: i didnt say 'what' is open. could as well be the doors.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, i only vaguely track the vctardation.
asciilifeform: and in any case i'd airdrop radio relays
asciilifeform: and i'm not rich.
asciilifeform: i ~could~ see an argument for airdropping such thing behind nazi lines
jurov: i don't see where, you mean the "hd fury" box?
asciilifeform: i won't make tv either.
jurov: ok, ftfy: but not while the chief engineer thinks himself usg subject, i guess
jurov: but not while the chief engineer is usg subject, i guess
asciilifeform: i don't even care for modern american film.
asciilifeform: i cite the cable method as a kind of final solution.
mircea_popescu: but more than on one occasion i could tell the 30-something year old's past by my own cinavia, and the situation was pretty much exactly "i brought her up here after the first date and basically - she never left"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform honestly i think it's nest building. dudes have discovered that the way to attract washed up ex-whores in family mode is to fill the fridge and mega-tv-couch arrangement.
punkman: I'm fine with 720p or less
mircea_popescu: that's the other thing you know, every other derp here that i ever visit has bought a huge tv, oft times at a cost that compares to that of his car.
punkman: jus the things I watch
punkman: I've started downloading x265 releases when I can find them, they are pretty great
asciilifeform: i still don't get why i oughta care about megahighres film disk.
mircea_popescu: punkman he was ? who the fuck cares about the consumer here that i may negrate him!
mircea_popescu: (and yes, my despise of laptops and crapple-ade is well grounded in this strategic choice made 25 years ago. if it is not programmable i am not buying it!)
punkman: sure, I don't watch dvds or blu-rays. but you were asking who would buy these things
mircea_popescu: i've never bought any of the non-computing computer crap since the fucking 90s. which includes no fucking playstation, no "analog video camera" no bs.
asciilifeform: and, as i said, capture the frames.
mircea_popescu: but the fact remains that if i am examining the photo data from foreign planet with life on it,
mircea_popescu: i call this the mp rule of tit thirds.
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 07:33:20; punkman: http://www.inbali.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/A-girls-school-in-1941.jpg http://i.imgur.com/3Qbdisz.jpg
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes> i am categorically unqualified to opine on this << wasn't a matter of cryptography, merely of you know, "what's reasonable management of contest"
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-02-2016#1414470 << i am categorically unqualified to opine on this ☝︎
punkman: http://www.inbali.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/A-girls-school-in-1941.jpg http://i.imgur.com/3Qbdisz.jpg ☟︎
ben_vulpes: aww i missed the cascadian-hunting ok cupid slut! ☟︎
punkman: I'd also buy shares in S.SLY if it was a thing
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415142 << there is no open-source equivalent. last time I checked. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i dunno, never been there.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i don't get it, derpy windows-based, closed source dvd copy thing ?
assbot: Logged on 07-11-2015 23:34:52; asciilifeform: 'no need have i of mercy, / no need have i of laurels, / but let me have a rifle, / and let me have a horse, / and if i chance to perish, / let my red platoonmates, / let my red platoonmates,/ make'em pay, of course.'
mircea_popescu: i guess it's assignable like anything else...
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I am confused
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 00:46:24; BingoBoingo: https://i.imgur.com/Moidh5E.jpg
asciilifeform: i will do it, but strictly because i do not presently perceive an alternative to exist.
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 00:29:59; mircea_popescu: the idea being that i announced a contest, haven't seen much in the way of submissions, ima award the 10 btc prize to alf for an implementation of a c-s derivative.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415029 << i am actually very ambivalent about recommending an integer field arithm cipher for use as block cipher on a conventional pc. for one thing, we will have transfer rates measured in kb/sec (if we're lucky.) for another, extreme side channel danger, because we're branching-on-secrets. for a third, entropy starvation. ☝︎
asciilifeform: but i do not expect this.
asciilifeform: and i would secretly love to be proven wrong, and for an actual cryptographer to exist, and show up, flying on jet pack, and show a scientifically-founded blockcipher for us.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415038 << i suggest that it is done 1) no earlier than 4th 2) no earlier than working cramershouptron is posted 5) paid not to my earthly carcass but to snsa piggy - under whose flag it will be published. ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 24-02-2016 23:40:41; BingoBoingo: Most of the ads I've seen bundle water/sewer into the condo fee, but may be a regional quirk
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-02-2016#1415005 << probably limited time offer. land developers are in a nasty habit of this atm. i've even seen "we guarantee that you'll be able to rent out your new suite for $1500 per month for the first 2 years. buy now!" in an attempt to sucker in would-be first-time landlords ☝︎