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phf: i'm going to have some kefir and decompress from the day
ben_vulpes: i'm off to waft the child through hipstergenic clouds of pot smoke
phf: well, after my eulora travails i can trivially build anything on mac os x with homebrew (thanks mp!), in this case there's not even a need to fuck around since b-a approved versions of dependencies have brew formulas for them
ben_vulpes: yeah i imagined that running buildroot wouldn't make sense on a bsdalike
phf: well, i can give you half baked version ;)
phf: but then i also tend to overthink things, for all i know there's a perfectly trivial solution to all things
ben_vulpes: okay i'll leave that and the slime work to the real artisans
phf: i think ascii short term plan is specifically rewrite of rpc, because it's an easily achievable low hanging fruit, which when done completely will let us get rid of json/http
ben_vulpes: phf: i don't quite know yet. i'm just barely a code-technician, creativity and imagination's another 5-7 years off for me.
mircea_popescu: by 2020 or so, if i do at least 10-20k a day, we might be caught up
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i guess i'm just going to add "this is good for fiat" comments from now on.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform (phf, adlai, mod6_, mod6): okay this is grand and i can see several rpc commands trivially slain in this vein, and others with application of work. but but but! would someone send me a map for running /scheme/ code from within satoshis abortion? ☟︎
BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2016/02/2015-irs-breach-estimate-revised-upwards-to-720000-records/ << Pls to confirm I used the correct Bre(a/e)ch
ben_vulpes: i thought we considered that glass left on the floor for barefoot burglars
mircea_popescu: lol. may be a long while, eulora took the crown for "most broken republican codebase" sometime this year i think
phf: knuth actually made a version with working crosslinks and table of contents and such, but those cost as much as the printed version and are "personalized". i take it nobody bothered getting rid of watermark and publishing it, or i can't find a copy anyway
phf: i'd like to read knuth chapters for a bit, but aocp warez is surprisingly awful. torrents of pdf scans without table of contents (!!!) and people in comments going "thanks for most useful books evaa!!!". does anybody actually tried using this shit?
ben_vulpes: have fun in meatspace, i'll derp through it.
ben_vulpes: i believe so, yes.
asciilifeform: i will explain, hopefully for the last time,
ben_vulpes: was i not to interpret "rebake using the correct v-tron" as "supercedes previous missive"?
assbot: Logged on 21-02-2016 00:37:21; phf: i can't figure out which patches are actually shiva patches. there's "(EXPERIMENTAL) Introducing: Shiva." and then sometime after there's "Tinyscheme Genesis, Cleanup, and Fixes, CORRECTED; -and- Shiva Pedigree Bridge."
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=21-02-2016#1411369 << i am failing to turn this thread into usable actions ☝︎
ben_vulpes: so i should be able to leave the tinyscheme dir as tinyscheme? or am i screwing up royally in that my patch applications don't result in a shiva dir?
asciilifeform: when we get a turingcomplete vtron, i will regrind all of my works
asciilifeform: normally you ought to use the shiva i posted and its bugfix.
ben_vulpes: also i suppose polarbeard?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> this is for the first time in like a decade i ever remotely felt like visiting that place. << All Cascadians coalesce to Jewish culture
ben_vulpes: but i'd hope to only use that for bootstrapping.
asciilifeform: (i can think of one reason)
asciilifeform: i mean, it makes sense in a pressure hull
ben_vulpes: but yes, i would rather live in bootstrapped country squalor in plastic domes than most us cities.
mircea_popescu: sometimes i suspect i might be the most tolerant of women fellow that ever lived or something.
asciilifeform: i had no idea ben_vulpes was a pashtun.
mircea_popescu: this is for the first time in like a decade i ever remotely felt like visiting that place.
mircea_popescu: i hear that's how the founding fathers grew up all weird.
mircea_popescu: this "home education" thing works for me, if and when i decide to knock up two dozen slaves and then produce a litter the size of an average obeast.
mircea_popescu: just because my eyes move independently of the head doesn't mean i'm not reading!
mircea_popescu: i was here.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: to get briefly back to the cramer shoup thing, i am very much curious re: who is going to review it, and how
ben_vulpes: i'm expecting vietnamese-style contact mines launched from a longbow but yes
asciilifeform: l0l i can see him setting mines for nazi echelons near warsaw or the like.
ben_vulpes: i saw
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 01:38:57; asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415038 << i suggest that it is done 1) no earlier than 4th 2) no earlier than working cramershouptron is posted 5) paid not to my earthly carcass but to snsa piggy - under whose flag it will be published.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: re: that, i answered a while back, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=25-02-2016#1415070 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes atm i'm just trying to politely temper the fellow's enthusiasm and un-allergenically redirect more of his efforts towards practical if boresome matters.
asciilifeform: actually he went to pm, at me, and is very sad, can't get sig to verify for no reason i can ascertain.
assbot: Logged on 27-02-2016 18:35:59; ben_vulpes: what, reading the logs magically solves the key distribution problem? or do i catastrophically misunderstand.
danielpbarron: well i shortened it for brevity; my actual response was something like "no i'm gonna tie you up and hang you from the rafters, yeah talk"
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron anyway i think what the cascadian is trying to say there is that it's fashionable these days to say something you know, hip and edgy. "nah, we could go pillaging and plundering! arrrr!" or whatever inane bs of the sort.
mircea_popescu: i guess... tho technically it'd be "made into a punk" otherwise it's kind-of ambiguous
mircea_popescu: yeah, that's veering into "i can't drink coffee - it keeps me up" territory.
mircea_popescu: i suppose this is an idle objeciton, the "no fucking" "just friends" of yore made exactly as little sense.
mircea_popescu: but it WASNT "just friends", as in, not fucking. it was "just friends" as in... i have no fucking idea what, facebook lists ?
danielpbarron: i encountered one of these "just friends" chicks somewhat recently : girl hits me up on farceb00k seeing that her friends are friends with me; chats me up daily for like a week; I suggest she come see me and get some food somewhere; her response "what would we do? just talk?" ; mine "sure" ; haven't heard from her since
asciilifeform: don't get me wrong, i very much see the mircea_popescutronic perspective here.
asciilifeform: i probably would, and will, if These Things Go On (tm)
asciilifeform: eh who am i to say turnip isn't fuckable.
mircea_popescu: and you know, it's something i actually encountered in teh field ? slavegirl picks up random 19 yo, kinda mousy, manga fan with glasses living with parents sorta chick. they go out a coupla times over the course of i dunno - months ? eventually she cuts her off. turns out teenybopper was turning down ~9 out of 10 invites, never put out, her last email being something like "we'll i'd like to continue being friends". bit
mircea_popescu: basically, i'm starting to understand, socialism is, other than utter idiocy, an alt-way to be social!
mircea_popescu: i'm not really as constrained about where i leave my seed.
mircea_popescu: i want to use my buttcoins at EXACTLY 0 places of the wrong sort.
kakobrekla: i want to use my buttcoins at more than 7 places, ideally
asciilifeform: i can't really disagree with mircea_popescu.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: look also in the log, i think it just got fixed 1/2 hr ago
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-02-2016#1416641 << i just looked in the wiki. ☝︎
asciilifeform: possibly because i don't do the update thing ?
assbot: Logged on 27-02-2016 17:52:40; asciilifeform: i have every possible wwwtron here, i think
danielpbarron: for me, i also had a problem with the buildroot sig, but it finished with a working bitcoind anyway
hdbuck: asciilifeform: hdbuck: if you take that key and manually run gpg --verify ..... on one of my patches, what do you get ? >> could you dpaste it so i dont get it wrong?
ben_vulpes: sorry, i was being snide.
ben_vulpes: what, reading the logs magically solves the key distribution problem? or do i catastrophically misunderstand. ☟︎
ben_vulpes: ah, i recall now.
asciilifeform: after i explained that it is a catastrophic mistake
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i thought he quit doing this ????
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: while mod6's scripts pull them down from the net, i think this is actually a social problem.
danielpbarron: i think it's generally solved by the 6-month rule
asciilifeform: i did not say that this was a solvable problem, in the usual sense.
danielpbarron: http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/the_real_bitcoin << updated, let me know if I messed something up
hdbuck: also i just did it again now, with the link you provided me with, still not working
hdbuck: i look up from pool.sks-keyservers.net directly using the 0x… keys from the script
hdbuck: @ben_vulpes now i got this http://dpaste.com/2N5V06F
hdbuck: anyway i gotta go, i’ll come back for moar help setting it up, thanks anyway
hdbuck: so i get to dl obsolete script :/
asciilifeform: i have yet to devise any serious final solution to this (outside of eldritch horrors like blockchain telegraphy.)
hdbuck: @asciilifeform got it from the commands the wiki tells us to do i suppose
ben_vulpes: anyways this i believe to be the current version: http://mod6.net/btcf/build-bitcoind-V99995.sh
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i get that
asciilifeform: i have every possible wwwtron here, i think ☟︎
hdbuck: when i execute it i just get this: http://dpaste.com/2F3PSGN
hdbuck: how would i do that?
danielpbarron: i saw him /part yesterday
hdbuck: i got a v hash not matching
hdbuck: pardon for my agnostic demands but as I’ve just followed Mr popescu’s guide to set up the realbitcoinfoundation node, i am unsure how it is working :/
asciilifeform: (or i shouldnt've bought those decade-old dimms...)
asciilifeform: either that or i finally got fed the polonium. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: she should be eaten, and in a sane world would try and befriend a wolf in winter. i'm sure this actually happened historically, if not recorded anywhere.
asciilifeform: i often wonder why they never raise big cats
asciilifeform: i think this is really it .
mircea_popescu: i suppose they'd raise spiders, if spiders ate human flesh.