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ben_vulpes: probably more crowded than anything mircea_popescu engages in willingly, and i don't even like it. ☟︎
SuchWow: i enjoy our twice a year talks lol
SuchWow: anyhow, i'll leave you guys to it, be well!
SuchWow: ben_vulpes: i just asked a question, why so butthurt
cazalla: not sure, from what i know it will change to pos at some point and then inflate the supply forever
ben_vulpes: i wonder how the conversation drifted from parenting to shillcoins ☟︎
SuchWow: did they ever fix that i wonder
SuchWow: yeah pre-sale woulda been nice, but i don't blame myself one bit for not buying the hype
SuchWow: cazalla: that's reasonable. i don't really either, it's just that it's been hard to NOT hear about that one over the last year
cazalla: SuchWow, i don't really follow altcoins, so many of them, so many failures, bitcoin remains #1 despite all the 2.0 shit that has been promised to topple it all these years
SuchWow: i'm not super well versed, but it's come up enough to make me go hmm, plus those charts are cray cray lol
cazalla: i get more cuddles and kisses, but he only turns the tears on if mum leaves, not when dad goes out, doesn't seem to care as much ☟︎
ben_vulpes: pardon, i misremembered.
cazalla: i am looking forward to those things again, times seems to have gone so fast with the first, one moment he can barely roll and lift his head but now it's all walkin' and talkin'
SuchWow: i still watch charts and chatter daily just to keep up with it for fun tho
SuchWow: cazalla: nah i stopped trading about 1.5 years ago, and have been working IT ever since, no time for trading
ben_vulpes: well i'm just having a conversation with an old friend i haven't seen in a few weeks, but thanks for getting involved!
SuchWow: ben_vulpes: i have no complaints lol
cazalla: i remember you SuchWow
ben_vulpes: i'll not talk to any 'staff-emeritus' in pm
ben_vulpes: yeah, i saw the second go through, but i don't think there's a guarantee that *you* did the second one.
cazalla: well, i just auth'd so no matter
ben_vulpes: hm actually i upped you so how would i know
cazalla: ben_vulpes, i wonder which i actually value more :P
ben_vulpes: i am also curious to hear about how long the bitcoind recompile is in your various workflows, asciilifeform, phf, mod6, punkman, jurov ☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎
botneko-chan: I'm using bitcoin and like it, but wasn't tracking fork-related discussions before someone payd for DDoS'ing Classic
botneko-chan: I'm actually not very interested in btc politics, but in my opinion if increase block size then miners would get less profit from tx processing when there would be no new btc mined. Mining would become non-rentable and hashpower will decrease after some time then making easier for someone to get 51% just by turning on ol ASIC that was turned off because of low profit. I'm okay with current blocks and higher fees, in my o ☟︎
botneko-chan: I mean main bitcoin dev team and so, not a forks like Classic or XT
botneko-chan: I support Core too
ben_vulpes: phf, nevermind, i'm a classic core derp
ben_vulpes: running the /exact same/ bitcoind command runs something that i can telnet into and scream lisp at
mircea_popescu: i could see even dedicating a box to this.
asciilifeform: i will pick this back up again when there is reason to.
asciilifeform: but doesn't work as well as i'd like, not line speed (uses dumb bignum)
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i have a (unpublished, for good reasons) prototype that doesn't have 'kernel' or 'userland' at all, but just this bare metal thing that sets up the nic ring buffer (coreboot payload) and loops, checks rsa, retransmits on other nic...
ben_vulpes: the only line i have for coworkers and plebs on this topic is "you haven't thought for half a second why the /nsa/ didn't bring this suit?"
asciilifeform: now i gotta ask, how does mircea_popescu know that it was 'actual woman'
asciilifeform: i have nfi if it even was an actual woman.
mircea_popescu: and i appreciate your "is to produce" construction :)
asciilifeform: (the ultimate thermonuclear version of this is to ~randomly generate~ a cpu arch, instantiate on an fpga ~and generate a compiler~, and compile for THAT! and i was very sad as a student to discover that one cristina cifuentes invented this long before i did)
phf: i thought whole exercise is to produce byte to byte equivalent binaries, as another step in verification process. "sealed vpatches -> press -> binary -> shasum"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i was tempted throughout eulora lifetime to go "fu, no binaries, compile, always". and i can still contemplate why this would be the case with trb.
mircea_popescu: in other news, til i learned that the criteria for "fridge big enough" is : if one discrete item won't fit, push. if it now fits, fridge is big enough. if it still won't fit, "wtf is with these tiny-ass euro style fridges already!!1"
mircea_popescu: i guess.
phf: node was running fine inside a virtualbox openbsd though, same one that i built it on.
phf: now that there was a suggestion of treating specific openbsd version as baseline, i think problem was that i built in on one openbsd and tried running on another
assbot: Logged on 11-01-2016 05:13:29; phf: the goal was to run it on a libretto and try to eat the first couple of blocks, but it wouldn't even connect to rpc for whatever reason, so i gave up on the whole distraction
assbot: Logged on 11-01-2016 05:12:12; phf: ben_vulpes: i'll take at look in the next few days, but one quick comment, fwiw i built it on a 32-bit openbsd.
ben_vulpes: i found one in rubby
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: On OpenBSD. It's the one I chopped together mostly while drunk and still works.
BingoBoingo: I have a partially trb-icized 7 series in the name of implementation pluralism. No earthly idea what all changes happened.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-02-2016#1418478 << i vaguely recall BingoBoingo sort-of trying ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 29-02-2016 19:42:04; trinque: and obviously the hardware's all rotten too; I get that, but that's not an argument in favor of linux.
ben_vulpes: looks like i changed nicks 7/29/2014
BingoBoingo: I don't really have chicory around this time of year
BingoBoingo: Ah, a couple days after I open a can I'll start adding cold milk to it when I pour for the same reason
jurov: but i started to mix it with cereal/chicory coffee to make it easy on stomach
jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-02-2016#1418008 lol i measure my coffee consumption by "does the shit smell like coffee? if not, all ok" ☝︎
mats: http://i.imgur.com/gJj95hz.jpg
phf: that must be right because that's when asciilifeform published the mpex review, so i must've been reading mp since then, but ben_vulpes renamed himself quite recently
phf: my current goal is to have better compartmentalization, like have a gaming machine (i.e. libretto running dos, i've been unwinding with ~~'95 games), a work machine (i.e. a thing that can run intellij and which is compromised for all the practical purposes) and a b-a machine whatever that evolves into, because i don't think the future of a computer as a progrock moog station is panning out
phf: i think he renamed himself during my 6 months
phf: ah, i think that's from before i was paying close attention to logs
phf: i found my way here to begin with because i was following your loperos project and your conclusions were then correct, only to be re-confirmed as part of b-a research
phf: asciilifeform: i guess i can't seem to find a baseline that doesn't suck in all kinds of obvious and non-obvious ways. for all practical purposes i operate out of a semipublic terminal that i don't own. various attempts to establish non-superficial ownership were unsuccessful for reasons amply discussed here
ben_vulpes: at mp's prompting i added a plastic handheld thing to the shower
ben_vulpes: sheesh this is like when i moved to new york and people were astonished to learn that there's electricity west of the rockies
ben_vulpes: i have tp ffs jurov
asciilifeform: i.e. places where definitionally one ought not shit.
phf: i don't know what constitutes naked civilian box
jurov: i use, too
phf: err, i mean, python mostly
phf: i was hoping to get intellij idea running on that
thestringpuller: everytime I see pogo reference I think of butt plug
asciilifeform: and, originally, i picked up buildroot to make pogotron.
assbot: Logged on 29-02-2016 21:41:44; phf: i'm though confused, i thought buildroot is explicitly a cross-compilation mechanism?
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=27-02-2016#1416923 << this girl i'm rather fond of convinced me that it wasn't a half-bad way to spend thirty years while my brain rots building apps for various usg tentacles. ☝︎
phf: i'm though confused, i thought buildroot is explicitly a cross-compilation mechanism? ☟︎
phf: once i do can probably produce buildroot for mac os x too
phf: i think i wanted to figure out how to package openssl/db/boost as buildroot native packages, rather then doing adhoc, which is a task in itself
asciilifeform: understand why i went with buildroot.
trinque: lemme see what it does and I'll paste; I've done it before and it barfed.
asciilifeform: i don't recall a ~rotor~ trb working there.
trinque: heh, I'll have to try running my emacs env on your brick sometime
asciilifeform: i have a brick here that also did pretty well.
trinque: whether that's due to it being a less prevalent target, I do not know.
trinque: and obviously the hardware's all rotten too; I get that, but that's not an argument in favor of linux. ☟︎
trinque: I personally would far sooner deal with a shitty package management system than a swiss cheese kernel
trinque: yes, I understand I just said "this food has less shit in it!"
asciilifeform: and we (or at least i) are still baking bread from it.
asciilifeform: i'm beginning to understand why the enemy is not particularly scared of trb.
phf: i think the "advanced user" workflow is to pick up genkernel config, menuconfig it, put the config back into genkernel, recompile
asciilifeform: l0l i thought you had his complete worx cached.
mircea_popescu: literally, "thus therefore, i don't see them to clearly", but that "not see clearly" really means, "it won't end up well for them". sort-of like prophet not seeing your future too clearly.
asciilifeform: i'll take the lifeless crater, plox.
mircea_popescu: as the romanian expression goes, "apai atunci nu-i prea vad in clar"
mircea_popescu: i don't see that better.
asciilifeform: i can see hitler and dulles nodding to one another, 'yeah it'll be better to create a planet of castrated zombies'
mircea_popescu: unlike the qc thing, i can't even say this is not in the cards.
asciilifeform: (i.e. thermonuke that doesn't require a fissile initiator, ergo no need for refining U)