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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> hey in america this is how 'experts' usually develop 'reputation', by maybe walking past a warehouse that was a lab once in 1950s on a stroll etc. <<< #trilema, with a collective pervy experience of > 50 years...
mircea_popescu: hanbot i think chetty took them for a death spin or something.
mircea_popescu: +9000 imunopoints, at a cost of a mere 1.5 milimorts.
asciilifeform: eh setting foot in the virus pit was a good start imho.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and after that, i could have walked to confectionary and asked to smell a good cake !
mircea_popescu: hanbot was agustina topless or is that a diff one
asciilifeform: hey in america this is how 'experts' usually develop 'reputation', by maybe walking past a warehouse that was a lab once in 1950s on a stroll etc.
asciilifeform: from my pov it was ~as much fun as standing in a rush hour train.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu and i and buncha folks went to a club, nominally s&m-tronic, but ~nobody (as far as my naked eye could see) was naked
asciilifeform: it was like a sports bar with no tv
mircea_popescu: never actually saw him in a library tho!
mircea_popescu: it's outrageous, i don't think i ever saw an intelligent girl in a library.
mircea_popescu: this is like despising cooking. it's a fucking seat in the academy, for rights!
trinque: asciilifeform: so you're a dude!
mircea_popescu: hey, i taught a girl how to lisp also.
mircea_popescu: phf actually there's a very funny thing re that, girls never smell of earnest sweat. every place has a consensus-chosen chem barrier for that.
phf: mircea_popescu: it's a thing, look at recent usg "nerd culture"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it just makes me a hermit, who keeps 1 pet, and not 3 etc.
asciilifeform: there is no particularly good reason for anyone to give a shit.
trinque: cooks like a champ too
trinque: nice tits, and A+++ booty
mircea_popescu: you get a pass, she doesn't ?!
trinque: not a human skull, but y'know, WIP!!
asciilifeform: 11:35 <+mircea_popescu> generally, better a clever girl that thinks herself dumb than a dumb girl that thinks she must be clever. << how about CLEVER girl that thinks itself clever
mircea_popescu: and the start and end of it all is, these atrocious fucktards, who think "sadly there's too many bars" and the whole surface of club in buenos aires would fit in one sane club in a sane place, ☟︎
trinque went on a tirade to new lady friend yesterday about the complete lack of ownership in USistan.
trinque: heh, what a mess.
mircea_popescu: so now "his" media, which obviously was cristina-friendly, pissed off macri, who won. and so they're going to have a falling out and the thing is going to be "privatized" or somesuch.
mircea_popescu: the thing owes in taxes, if its own word is to be believed, about half a BILLION dollars for the past decade.
mircea_popescu: so, one cristobal lopez is one of the country's greatest "owners". originally, there was a gambling boat made by some spanish company, taking advantage of the unclear jurisdiction situation and the inept and slow workings of the ar courts. they invested 10mn and took home 100mn the first year.
mircea_popescu: trinque quite unheard of here. whole fucking place is a socialist wet dream, nobody owns anything. did i recount the lulz of the local gambling baron ?
trinque: heh, she met a quasi-mythical creature. an owner.
mircea_popescu: local lulz here. tall blondy aspiring to be a stewardess wants to know where i work. "i don't work" "then what do you do ?" "whatever i feel like." she's thoroughly confused, enlists help. "how do i pay for things ??" "with money." "yes!!!". eventually girl that knows me rescues them, "oh, he's in finance". NOW they're satisfied! "omg you liar!11"
mircea_popescu: generally, better a clever girl that thinks herself dumb than a dumb girl that thinks she must be clever.
mircea_popescu: "the culture of clubsluts and sorority girls" beats any other female culture so far out of the field it can't even be discussed, wtf. you can take one of those and make her a fat borderline sleeve in six weeks. try the fucking other way around
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i knew a buncha similar kidz who , yes, adapted to chimp cunt.
mircea_popescu: do that to a child, he'll have to... wait for it... adapt to the new environment!!11
mircea_popescu: what, you think the usg is a pos because aliens ?
mircea_popescu: fwis, nine tenths of everyone'd wear one of those penis shrinker thing and be kept in diapers by a crumb-like woman.
danielpbarron: yeah b.s. Every man would have a harem if he could
mircea_popescu: phf hey, and you wanted to teach a computer how to do it!
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron> just like Obama can't be that powerful if he can't publicly have a harem << the excuse here would be that "he could if he wanted to - doesn't want to".
mircea_popescu: this happens to be a very strictly classical narrative, much to its merit, and adding to its valor. so find it.
danielpbarron: just like Obama can't be that powerful if he can't publicly have a harem
mircea_popescu: you call this a definition ?
phf: well, it's the end of any action on the part of characters, they are sort of agitated from their state by external factors, they act to the limit of their meagre abilities, and that's that. everything else is them settling back into their passivity as a result of that initial agitation
mircea_popescu: now tell me this. you familiar with the five stages of a narrative ?
phf: i can also see why it would have a 7/10 rating, because it won't be seen as a satire, the characters are also the audience, words like "poignant" "reconnecting" "estranged" will be used, but of course there all kinds of things to nit pick for connoisseurs of independent movies which are better than hollywood, but are easy to apply npr-speak while completely missing the point, and the meta circularity makes my head heart. hence-- painful
phf: mircea_popescu: it's very spot on, it's like everything that happens is a neurotic mannerism, "of course that's what she would say, of course that's what he would do", all the props fit too. painful, because i'm not in argentina and these people are way too familiar
mircea_popescu: i guess in a sense that's what they're doing yeah
mircea_popescu: if only god had the common sense ot include a hash with the material.
shinohai: +asciilifeform ^ answers the old riddle, 'does gavin have to rot in an office' <<< a cage is a cage still, isn't it?
asciilifeform: https://medium.com/mit-media-lab-digital-currency-initiative/announcing-a-900-000-bitcoin-developer-fund-6e8b7e8b0861 << lulz
mircea_popescu: one of the best things to do after breaking up a strike/protest/other "democratic" bs is to isolater hte participants, beat the shit out of them and inquire wtf they thought they were doing there.
mircea_popescu: why would the journashits use a diff process ?
asciilifeform: <ben_vulpes> asciilifeform: http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-strange-origins-of-truecrypt-isiss-favored-encryption-tool << more truecrypt <<<<< see the other logz. some derp did a 'newsweeksatoshi' re truecrypt (shat forth a 'thrilling!111' bio of some schmuck, and - without anything like evidence - tagged him with the authorship based on 'glove fits')
mircea_popescu: anyway. there's little doubt, if nothing else for gm reasons, that the original #bible-a was rather anti-establishment ; and then got reshaped into something more tolerant once the wot involved ended up in power irl.
mircea_popescu: (generally "original greek" refers to the septuagint, ie, the result of an effort that actually predates and likely likely caused christ, to translate the hebrew texts into greek. it was a committee affair sponsored by the ptolemaic autarchy in power in egypt.)
gribble: Error: "up" is not a valid command.
danielpbarron: apparently there's even a "silver rule" which changes the "do unto" into "don't do unto"
mircea_popescu: which is why and how lacan was a psychoterapist, but not a scholar.
phf: i checked out when he went into a very tedious explanation of what a turing machine is
mircea_popescu: therapy is always a subjective endeavour. the "therapist" is ~the wallpaper.
phf: his argument perhaps support what you're saying, because it's reduced to "i wrote this thing, and if you say this is therapy, then you are a waste of space"
mircea_popescu: what is it, "cosubstantiality" ? "a soul" ?
phf: 12 step bot, you could buy PAIP and learn to write one yourself, a cleaned up eliza version for common lisp is somewhere there in the later chapters
BingoBoingo: So basically emacs therapist, but with occasionally cheesy quotes and a 12 step orientation
BingoBoingo: Well, technically I'm looking for a sponsor more than a therapist
BingoBoingo needs to find a new therapist. Emacs just hasn't been cutting it since I sobered up. Anyone know a better chatbot for this. Preferably one I can run in emacs?
asciilifeform: somewhere a poor fella is short on arsepaper!111
asciilifeform: what does someone need to have in place of a brain to be pissed at a fella torching a pile of fiatola?
phf: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6q4n5TQnpA via jwz, an old interview with klf after they burned million pounds, for the amusement of #t-a ☟︎
mircea_popescu: teh english rose : "oh, had a lovely time, went for long walks on the beach..." "but what about the men ?" "oh, i did see some gentlemen, but we weren't introduced."
mircea_popescu: there's this sociological experiment underway, consisting of secluding a woman and a dozen men of different countries.
asciilifeform: we had, long ago, a mega-thread about the 'tolerance to poverty' thing
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: aha. ru also offers 9% on 5-year bonds. sign a nigga up!
mircea_popescu: anyway, back to the horse and hay, mark twain has a funny bit about his caballine purchase in drought-struck nevada.
mircea_popescu: i used to do the same thing, but meanwhile moved in a country where everyone pisses in the govt's face. (seriously, teh unions are actually putting up ads going "ganancia no es ingreso", ie, they don't have fucking income tax here)
pete_dushenski: 'a penny saved is a penny earned' (tm)
pete_dushenski: so i largely avoid expenses that i can't bill to a company in one manner or another.
mircea_popescu: i thought you were a filthy kulak, what jerb.
ben_vulpes: less of a shooting and more of a staking out for carrion birds though
ben_vulpes: "this land is shit land, that land is shitland, from the trash of new york, to the smog of l.a......"
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: costs 0! grows by self! << there was an amusing bit in 'what i learned losing a million dollars' about how feller bought 'investment horse' and spent boatloads on medical bills before thing... croaked.
mircea_popescu: a yeah just exactly.
mircea_popescu: how long has it been even, like a week maybe ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ... the only thing they ACTUALLY hate is powerful people, as long as it results in a reduction of individual power they like anything
mircea_popescu: i'm arguing with a composite of people i don't know.
mircea_popescu: schmucky socialists, you know, always with their bs. "oh cars are bad because oil - bikes better" "horses even better!" "oh that's not fair because uses beast, bike uses your own ass". o i see how it is, the only thing they ACTUALLY hate is powerful people, as long as it results in a reduction of individual power they like anything it may be.
ben_vulpes: horses are more expensive than a car what is this
mircea_popescu: if they get a power and don't use that power they don't hang for failure to use.
mircea_popescu: "For example, a different federal statute provides that title to property used to commit a crime (or otherwise “traceable” to a crime) passes to the Government at the instant the crime is planned or committed." <<< ahahaha check out the ancient escheat to the crown in cases of treason!
mircea_popescu: at any rate : there's about as much room for democracy in a republic as there is for samples in formal logic. completely immiscible things.
trinque out for a while
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: everything is either a complete-algebra or a buluceala pit.
mircea_popescu: to force a comparison, the difference between a republic and all and sundry other group organizing patters is that the republic is a complete algebra (ie, elements, defined operations) whereas the rest is (necessarily, and provably so) just a dictionary (ie, list, array) of strings.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm testing a very preliminary cstron.
mircea_popescu: for the record : republic does not in any sense mean nor at any time did mean anything about individual liberty, and especially nothing about individual liberty to be a dumbass without consequence.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes> afaict there is mircea_popescu's court, some dismally jolly sappers digging tunnels, and some people emptying bedpans in their finery << becauyse why, we're 5yos and the alternatives we perceive are either cartman's own "whatever, i do what i want" or otherwise "we live in a dictatorship!111" ?
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i argued that giving equal haircut to (1) and (2) is a communist idiocy.