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mircea_popescu: there is a "smallest printed diode"
asciilifeform: it is merely a grid of capacitors.
asciilifeform: sram is a STABLE system.
mod6: Yeah, kinda looks like it. (Was just taking a peek there...)
mod6: back when that was a thing it probably was more affordable for Mr. Luser. What about these days?
mod6: asciilifeform had a interesting dream too haha.
asciilifeform: dram is a classic 'here take this turd, it is cylindrical just like your old sausage but SO MUCH CHEAPER!1111 moar accessible!111'
asciilifeform: cray (when s. cray was alive!) used sram main memories for a reason.
asciilifeform: and is overall a terrifically cheapo hack
asciilifeform: (they come with a 'burst mode' where the counter auto-increments, so you don't waste time loading a next addr)
asciilifeform: and is only really meaningful for a general-purpose cpu, the concept is not even defined re something like a miner
asciilifeform: incidentally, the 'branch is wasteful' thing taught in school has to do entirely with caches, and ergo is not relevant in a flat memory (e.g., the inside of a miner)
asciilifeform: there is some confusion in the literature because certain sly operators would have you believe that - e.g., a conditional MOV - is not a branch.
mod6: if not, maybe a word or 6 on what you're getting at there.
mircea_popescu: mod6 at best your dream sounds like a bizarro curtis yarvin scheme
deedbot hands you a broomstick.
mod6: a register before executing the next op.
mod6: is there anything to my wack-o dream? could a method be developed to have signed stack frames that the cpu would only execute up successful validation? would this even be worthwhile? probably not, a guy can still probably grab the IP and point it where he likes. probably would have to have some sort of pipeline (is this a thing?) that would make sure that there was valid checksum (from signature) held in
mircea_popescu: incidentally - a pow update without homomorphism involved ?!
mod6: he was going to do this V like thing where each op has a corresponding hash, and at the end of all the ops, the hashes had to match or the cpu wouldn't execute the thing...
asciilifeform: (but omfg!111 how can we produce clockless chip!111 synopsys corp dun sell a cad for it!11)
ben_vulpes: so basically someone who understands how asics work sat down and thought about it for half a second
shinohai: It' a nice balmy 75 degrees here today, and I sit outside on my patio to irc.
mod6: we get a log yet/
mircea_popescu: mno, we're not discussing a religion, but a theology.
mircea_popescu: what a ustard thinks "science" is has a lot to do with what basil ii bulgaroktonos thought god was.
mircea_popescu: heck, the bulgarians spent a millenium trying to immitate byzantine ridiculousness.
asciilifeform: what 'science'. 'here's a copy of xp from bazar'
midnightmagic: but there's a neat possible 20% algorithmic improvement in bitcoin mining that was just released that might eat bitfury/et al lunch.
mod6: (17:57) <+mircea_popescu> shinohai> I see there is no way shinohai can just donate the shares back to qntra and forget about it all. << you can prolly instruct jurov to sell them and donate proceeds to foundation say. << this is exactly the correct approach. this way we take a btc donation (tyvm!) and we continue to only hold M1
mircea_popescu: this plan to stockpile proper chips etc goes hand in hand with a republic-isp, incidentally, becauyse who else to own hardware ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: but yes, one thing the republic might consider is a stockpile of proper amd chips
mircea_popescu: anyway. yes amd gave us usable computers for a five-year plan longer than'd have been otherwise possible.
asciilifeform: ftr cardano cpu is a mips knockoff.
mircea_popescu: there is that. but it'd be a self-bake sorta deal.
asciilifeform: mips ~company~ is a parasite, just like arm co.
mircea_popescu: i have nfi why anyone would EVEN COSNIDER doing anything with a usg agent
mircea_popescu: not to mention there's a whole colonization of amd in the arm space.
asciilifeform: in particular, tivoization means that ~your pc is a nintendo~ with microshit - holding the signing key.
mircea_popescu: a step!!1
asciilifeform: the linked essay speaks for itself, described - for n00bz - precisely why merely cutting off the net pipe does not sanitize a box.
mircea_popescu: jurov how many does he have ? a few hundred should come to something in dollars, is that too micropayment for bitcoin donations ?
asciilifeform: just as a broken-down toyota in a tow yard is more of 'car' than a rusty ww2 tank sans engine.
mircea_popescu: and ejaculating on a face is closer to actual reproduction than ejaculating on sugar cubes.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the relationship between sane bitcoin source as available on trb www and "bitcoin" is THE SAME as the relation between a sane implementation of tetris and "running tetris"
mircea_popescu: incidentally BingoBoingo that email might be worth a qntrization.
asciilifeform: one nitpick: the c201 chromebook he recommends as a potential arm box is a TURD
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: This is a safe one related to liked craigslist lulz
PeterL: actually, looks like player holdings should be a negative change too?
BingoBoingo: PeterL: That's what I'm suggesting too, but I'm suggesting he makes a bigger pile to do it with
BingoBoingo: So now you are saying you gotta write more to become a stronger person in general
BingoBoingo: You've got to cultivate a habit shinohai
BingoBoingo: shinohai: practice? Start a blawg to practice writing and then submit newsy things to qntra?
asciilifeform: phf is a winner!111
phf: now lets see, the pink pantaloons are out, and yellow jockstraps are in. the handkerchief should be in the ~left~ pocket of your velvet vest and not ~right~ pocket of a wwii bomber jacket. that one tripped up a bunch of contenders. last minute addition was a brooch, make sure it matches the cravat, not a ground for dismissal, but judges look favorably at lord applicants that are aware of only the latest tmsr fashions
PeterL: danielpbarron has a fief?
mircea_popescu: political ability and a fief.
asciilifeform: a man taken by siguranza could, sometimes, be turned loose upon receipt of proper bribe.
asciilifeform: fwiw my grandfather spent a good chunk of his life on hydraulic analogue computerz. ☟︎
asciilifeform: i dun even have a dog or cat.
asciilifeform: phf: you need a man willing to pull the pin, yes. BUT you ALSO need the pin !
mircea_popescu: hey, my own father spent what he imagined to be his golden years, at the time and after that time, doing "research" for his government on supposedly, computing, but really, holding each other's dicks like a bunch of chimps.
phf: would still want to figure out a bunch of problems before applying it "with computers" anyway, crypto, airgap, having it stored in a such a way that the inevitable arrest doesn't result in "5000 financial records were recovered in a daring raid by the brave constables"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nono, the use of ~~~SCIENCE~~~ will allow a collection of bureaucrats to satisfy in practice the delusional requirements of what mp "should have been"
mircea_popescu: they only seem fundamental to the hordes of spawn for which a soul couldn't be found, so they ended up consumers.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> because without this, a computer is not an asset, but a catastrophicly limitless liability. << hey, it doesn't matter, usg will pretend to be mp and make it all good!11
asciilifeform: rms lived on the spine of a usgtronic dragon, and it is not clear to me that he had any influence in reality over what the dragon did
asciilifeform: because without this, a computer is not an asset, but a catastrophicly limitless liability.
phf: that's also an idea from "when everything had a spec, and everything was written to spec, and things just fit into each other neatly" decades
asciilifeform: (incidentally this is an actual thing, and a decade ago i actually thought that i invented it, but then learned that it was cristina cifuentes's thesis)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is the basic principle of 'specificity of diddling' (for fuck's sake it needs a name)
asciilifeform: so piecemeal organ replacement is a realizable thing.
mircea_popescu: if we had a working implementation!
asciilifeform: in other 'news', in my dream, mircea_popescu was camping in a tent in my house, and reading a dead tree copy of the logz summarized by somebody or other, and it was a thing on ancient yellowed paper, he cursed and spat and in the end tore it up and started smashing things, then went out the door and started firing some sort of energy weapon at the trees
asciilifeform: i regard it as a mircea_popescutronic question.
asciilifeform: (the issue of whether the muscle exists, to do this, is a separate question. the above is simply re the political aspect of whether it is a thing that is even to be contemplated.)
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu i had a notion: if we're no longer holding the 'father's pistols' line, is there any good reason not to replace openssl in trb with, e.g., ada bignum ?
mircea_popescu: during that blank space, the jews conquered egypt and started a new dynasty, founded carthage, tyre, byblos, etc ; dominated the golden crescent and so on.
mircea_popescu: which is a funny construct, it's like ... 3k bc egypt... 2k years blank... greece and rome!!!
mircea_popescu: aramaic script is a variation thereof.
mircea_popescu: anyway, linquistically if you care, old italic as well as greek, along with armenian and georgian all derive chiefly from phoenician, which is a canaanite language.
danielpbarron: oh huh, Aram was a son of Shem even, making Armenians semitic
deedbot hands you a broomstick.
deedbot: $get trust herro is not a command.
mircea_popescu: sister to "if you see a hungarian speaking foreign languages, you're looking at a jew."
mircea_popescu: they're also of very similar ability. ancient ro joke going something like "if you see a romanian successfuly engaged in commerce, you're looking at an armenian"
danielpbarron: the Armenians are of very similar decent : they are from Aram, a grandson of Noah
mircea_popescu: well... if one's to study religion, even if limiting it to europe, there's a lot more there than anyone cares to admit.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron you familiar with the old idea that you know, the creation-god is this hunchback covetous idiot of a fellow,
danielpbarron: at a quick glance, I see cathars believed the old testament God was a different God than the one in the new testament
mircea_popescu: but be that as it may : the cathars (from greek, with a k there) are one in a string of organised anticlerical opposition to the official doctrine, politically speaking.
mircea_popescu: "<mircea_popescu> i suppose i could be my own judas, in a strange sort of kathar approach to it."
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu> once the messiah comes back it's the end of the show << no, there's supposed to be a thousand year reign of Christ on earth before the whole thing is destroyed
PeterL: spell what with a c?
mircea_popescu: fancy that, the anglos spell it with a c like sane people for once. heh.
mircea_popescu: "oh you've been with the corp for 55 years here's a gold watch" ? fuck that.
mircea_popescu: i suppose i could be my own judas, in a strange sort of kathar approach to it.
mircea_popescu: it did, had a burp earlier with danielpbarron it seems
mircea_popescu: thinking about it, a comment like "x never did his six months it appears" is unlikely to help x in any way. it used to be that kids were trained to throw an exception whenever something they didn't understood happened. by now however, ustards especially, just ignore the whole thing they didn't understand and continue as if it never happened.
mircea_popescu: agorecki> how would mp shoot down a blockchain protocol change? I've never seen him post on the bitcoin dev mailing list <<<< ahahaha what the fuck is this now.