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phf: jurov: that's obviously
a bug and should be fixed :) i just want to have our priors straight
jurov: I expressly request that when i *today* drop #b-
a URL , it should NOT be aliased to btcbase.
☟︎ phf: in this case log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date urls are treated as
a "pointer to
a log location"
shinohai: thx BingoBoingo having
a nice outdoors lunch, will give it
a crack.
phf:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-08#1448528 << jurov thanks i'll look into it. i mean, the
http parser consists of search "
http" and then search for
a set of separators, it's as ghetto as it gets, but i had better results with that approach overall than using
a regex
☝︎ shinohai: BingoBoingo: link me to sauce? Will give it
a whirl when I get back home.
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: you mighta been
a better fit in some ways, but you also obviously have your hands full with biz, kidz, and foundation
BingoBoingo: Well whoever want lottery RBG story can take it. I'm not finding
a sufficient outrage to attack it.
pete_dushenski: e idea of changing min 0conf but never quite resolved that quandary myself... alas. it was going to be
a steep learning curve to be sure, but i was up for the challenge.
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: anyways, at
a management level i had in mind to increase the vig/fee and hold on to house bet winnings in an effort to increase revenue to compensate for mistaken txen, resolutions, etc., obviously appreciating that this may, at least initially, discourage some users. was also going to tag in some meatwot to assist with moderation and actively scour meatwot for potential bookies. toyed with th
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I told you Trump was just
a clinton stooge
DonaldTrumpOfBTC: should the most senile republic of bitcoin build
a firewall to keep chinese miners out?
BingoBoingo: For outdoor brush clearing you want either
a chainsaw, reciprocating saw with appropriate blade, or good old fashioned crosscut saw.
ben_vulpes: (b-dog, amusingly,
a nickname of mine from the nineties)
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Get
a saw and go outside. Clear some brush and your mind?
pete_dushenski: had
a dream last night that znort woulda gladly paid twice what he did. man alive are these ex post rationalisation engines humming.
BingoBoingo: Anyways this is perhaps the most apt summary of journalism ever: "I kind of like the idea that he’s taught himself not to look because if he looks it’s just neverending, right? You have to know when, as Superman, when to intervene and when not to. Or not when not to, you can’t be everywhere at once, literally you can’t be everywhere at once, so he has to be really selective in
a weird way about where he chooses to interfere."
BingoBoingo: anyways asciilifeform 1. Furfags don't have
a Turing or
a Jurov to redeem them
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i would *love*
a copy of that
mircea_popescu: no idea wtf they must be thinking - poor woman should get free tampons from strangers rather than become the domestic servant / slave / whatever of
a not-poor woman ? or sex toy of
a man ? or or or ?
mircea_popescu: thus therefore, he was wrongfully convicted on
a technicality.
mircea_popescu: here's how spears work : they have
a business end and
a handle. the handle - always points toward you. the business end - always points to the enemy.
☟︎ BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> guy underwent
a white supremacist conversion in prison. (which is not particularly surprising - gotta make some friends somehow!) << He was kinda
a play white supremacist before prison for the lulz. Switch was flipped in prison.
mircea_popescu: guy underwent
a white supremacist conversion in prison. (which is not particularly surprising - gotta make some friends somehow!)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's one dispute to be had. i doubt very much hitler was anything but
a center of mass. yes roosevelt intuited that since he wants the bureaucracy, the right move is to blame hitler, and yes churchill went along with it. but in point of fact...
phf: mircea_popescu: if i end up finding it at all useful, i will. i used spacing to indicate when were the active parts of day, so i'm trying this graph to provide an equivalent functionality. it's
a number of messages/hour of day histogram
mircea_popescu: in typical republican fashion, while everyone else was sleeping we got together and shat
a few hundred lines of heavy duty material into the logs. go us!
mircea_popescu: ah, but i don';t mean it re germany specifically. could have said france or italy just as well. what i mean is, that
a "rule of law" bureaucratic government with an economic presence is strictly speaking the nazi party irrespective of any consideration, chief on the list what they say or think they want.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: once that changes - they'll take it all. and i don't mean houses and cars, i mean blood and livers. they also have
a market value.
mircea_popescu: just as soon as the damage done to
a hated third party (here, the russians and especially the saudis) exceeds the damage done to the item itself, it's 100%.
wywialm: the quality or even existence of those assets are
a separate thing
wywialm: yes, it is quite insightful to look at corporate papers as
a national currency. Both are composed from
a liquidity premium and
a claim on some assets. In case of national currencies, the liquidity premium is very large and claim on central bank's assets very weak, but not nonexistent
mircea_popescu: you'll be hard pressed to find
a fiat corp today that is anything but another pirate ; and even fifty years ago you'd have been hard pressed to find
a fiat corp that wasn't
a sort of bASIC from our friend tom with blood and tears.
mircea_popescu: anyway - back to the scam thing briefly - bitcoin does in fact deliver on its "best economics lab ever devised" role, for they capable and willing to look. the whole "didn't start out as
a scam" thing that is pretty much the universal rule of fiat anything, played itself more obviously, more rapidly, in the hands of more naive people less versed in covering it up.
mircea_popescu: something like that. at least in macro terms, cash is not much more or much else than
a right to organise activity.
mircea_popescu: suppose, alternatively, that tomorrow china declares that apple is banned as
a terrorist organisation, and no azn corp can do business with them.
mircea_popescu: let's make it even worse. suppose tomorrow its governmental sponsor announces that it is "under investigation" for "violations". you know for
a fact they can steal any amount from its coffers, liek they did with say jpm.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: "it's not
a scam, it's
a meaningless paper construction built by people who weren't evil, just wrong, and who should have known better but didn't" ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: wywialm i sympathize with the "not every asset is
a scam angle". but consider say apple. could it buy russia ?
mircea_popescu: which, as
a sidepoint, is exactly why increased integration (aka, globalisation) comes with exponentially increased instability.
wywialm: i still hold that is not possible that every asset is
a scam
mircea_popescu: but once the market is both predicated on and discerning the bullshit, you have constructed
a very unstable circularity.
mircea_popescu: maybe. but this suddenly is
a different discussion than the lofty place we started.
wywialm: in
a hyip world, you have to 'invest' something that is at least
a bit worthwhile to scam it from you, which means that there is at least one non-hyip asset and holding it without investing is an investment decision. holding this asset (e.g. USD) is not itself risk-free, but insulates you from hyip risk and exposes you to other risks
mircea_popescu: how is it, for that matter, different from "you have to accept, as
a hyip investor, that it's not really an investment".
mircea_popescu: this "realize" is of the nature of "you have to understand we love you", ie, entirely devoid of cognitive content. it is
a bit of propaganda one has to accept. ok, so they accept it - or don't. fine. what now ?
mircea_popescu: so in this sense the "split risks so i only undertake what i want to" works well in theory and on paper, but it is in practice always devolved to
a luzly idiocy like "the gauss copula", direct equivalent to yesterday's discussion re the problem of computers
wywialm: but i suspect we may come close to
a sort of tautology quite soon
mircea_popescu: even if it were
a liability, but it must be specified.
mircea_popescu: this is the defense against the risks problem above usually deemed as rational. the problem here is that this in practice always devolves to
a sort of "when confronted with the number e, i wish to be insulated from the part past the decimal point and underwrite the part before the decimal point".
wywialm: nevertheless, in
a very general sense, any action involves taking specific risks and avoiding others. Say, me not invested in S.BBET successfully insulated me from the risk of it going into receivership
mod6: (04:07) <+ben_vulpes> mod6: i have
a trashy pdf copy of dodrill's 95 ada instructional material. lmk if you want
a copy. << sure! hit me with
a link or we can talk in pm if you wanna exchange in other method.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: yes, it is frequerntly implemented. but always as
a ponzi to date.
mircea_popescu: obvious why people want insurance. unobvious that such
a thing is even possible.
mircea_popescu: the reason was very strictly that, obviously, if you pay ten aurei for
a nice purple, and then wear it off, you WILL be ten aureii less rich.
wywialm: in
a general sense, we can expoit less than 1 correlation among different assets, bets or scenarios
wywialm: it is certainly in some situations
a wealth-preserver (or not wealth decreaser). as with any insurance, it comes at
a cost
mircea_popescu: but, currently, i am not even convinced the possibility of hedging is actually
a wealth increaser.
mircea_popescu: historically, or at least in my read of history, anything but neutral resulted in destruction of value from
a secular perspective.
wywialm: also, the interest of
a shareholder in
a public company is not always in line with the exchange's. And exchange can encourage volume or discourage it.
mircea_popescu: and without
a solid protocol there can be no serious interest in cryptocurrency.
mircea_popescu: attempting to "create business" from the position of the central bank is both stupid and
a doomed enterprise.
mircea_popescu: if one's not happy with the volume thereof, one's only recourse is to start
a business.
mircea_popescu: the idea here is that mpex is
a strictly correct and strictly complete reflection of bitcoin business, such as it is.
mircea_popescu: well, there's plenty. one went something like "to call
a party with low capital and high transacted volume an investor is not unlike calling
a guy in
a dirty overcoat that stalks women and jacks off
a romantic".
wywialm: i'm familiar in general on his views on not having
a liquid market available, but cannot recall the quote
ben_vulpes: mod6: i have
a trashy pdf copy of dodrill's 95 ada instructional material. lmk if you want
a copy.
☟︎ phf: i've been getting
a lot of not founds to those urls, so hopefully some of the bots are now going to be satisfied
mod6: asciilifeform: this guys introduction to Ada looks like
a really good tut.
mthreat: jeez i take
a little trip and there's
a revolution
mod6: such is
a bad idea to sign small amounts of text, grunts, w/e
mircea_popescu: but i imagine davout has been taking notes on how to do this ; and for sure
a good question in any future receiver selection will be "what have you learned from bitbet liquidation process"
mircea_popescu: ideally the way to do this is, auction master gives out
a hash, everyone must include it
☟︎☟︎ mod6: is it
a real thing about turing and the HH thing?