asciilifeform: you don't need laser for 'few metres'
asciilifeform: better imho to use standard fiber and screw jacks, as seen in linked item.
asciilifeform: and also they have large (comparatively) plugs, which means a ~1cm hole in shield enclosure.
asciilifeform: also apparently toslink comes with ~terrifyingly~ bad receivers, they have too much jitter to work with raw unprocessed rs232, need a manchester encoder.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the application i am considering does not call for ultra-sensitive optics, though. 'normal people' use fiber to talk over multiple km. in my case -- a few metres, max.
asciilifeform: found also others but that one is cheapest. (though could, now that i think about it, be cheaper still if it omitted the max232 and just spoke raw ttl 0-5v instead of proper rs232.)
asciilifeform: 'The usual advice given on the forums now is just to start Gimp running and then leave it alone - don't even touch the keyboard or the mouse, just get up, walk away and go do something else for at least an hour.(Yes, really!) When you come back, Gimp will probably be up and running and you will then have no further problems.'
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel_p: actually i somehow assumed that you wanted the metalens so as to enable chip microphotography in kitchen conditions
asciilifeform: rather than salivation over cutting-edge chemistries
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel_p: 'catching up on missed learning' would look more like, say, working through exercises in feynman, say
asciilifeform: consider the difficulty of getting thinking folx to so much as consider al schwartz's parity violator.
asciilifeform: aha, modern 'davinci's notebooks' drown in liquishit.
asciilifeform: the best that can be had from such work is to leave behind 'davinci's notebook'
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel_p: i recommend to take the advice of mircea_popescu ! in the sense where it is a waste of brain cycles to , past certain point, design 'atomic dirigible' if you haven't with what to make it, and have no foreseeable approach to it
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel_p: you can test this with bare hands. a metamaterial for long waves is also known as... ordinary waveguide. chandra bose made these in 1890s!
asciilifeform: or hm, nm, you need atomic layer epitaxy rig. you will need to infiltrate a semiconductor fab.
asciilifeform: and didntcha already infiltrate stanford ? do it there.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel_p: dunno that electron beam nanofabrication happens at typical 'community college'
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel_p: were you involved with the experiment described in this link ? any thoughts on replicating same in jungle conditions ?
asciilifeform: i for one like being able to correctly display ALL v-pressables on my entire box.
asciilifeform: there's a set of derps sitting in airport. they either get let in past customs -- or not let in. physical fact. activist-judge proclaimed 'let in.' and by all indications, mr.t -- kowtowed.
asciilifeform: in so far as 1) activist-judge is still a judge, and mr.t's dhs 'announced that it will obey judicial orders' and 2) the rapefugees were let out of the airport and happily on their way to $destination -- it works.
asciilifeform: hey i genuinely disagree that power saw needs an 'am i sawing finger' sensor.
asciilifeform: any pressable P relies strictly on one particular genesis.
asciilifeform: i still see 0 logical reason why 'flow' command has to barf -- it can happily display both flows. 'press', on the other hand, will NEVER have any problem knowing which flow to press to point P
asciilifeform: i can trivially cause it on my box by throwing, e.g., FUCKGOATS genesis, into trb dir...
asciilifeform: 'multiple roots' is 100% inevitably caused by patch curator (i.e. v operator) and never the submitters
asciilifeform: the odd part is that the thing boots and memtests etc. nao.
asciilifeform: sooo went over 'resurrected miracle' mobo with magnifying glass, there is indeed a leaking electrolytic cap (and a few pre-death ones, bulging like botulistic tinned food)
asciilifeform: in other wtf, old mobo comes back to life just as i readied to hoist replacement into place.
asciilifeform: or, hm, not so quickly. so perhaps it had undocumented adventures.
asciilifeform: (mining was ditto -ev and thing was quickly auctioned for scrap)
asciilifeform: re hughes 'glomar explorer', story is that even AFTER cover was blown, the thing was sent to do the ~job claimed in the cover story~ -- undersea mining. and not 'raise ww2 ships', which even after the robot was built, remained -ev.
asciilifeform: then again i would not be the first to know, if this weren't so.
asciilifeform: afaik most german subs are still right where they were left, on the bottom.
asciilifeform: or how cia/howard hughes built a massive robotic salvager JUST for that one sov sub.
asciilifeform: imho it may or may not make sense to make a tool just for trb. just as raising most ww2 sunken submarines is not +ev, only the ones full of nazi gold.
asciilifeform: y'know, crapolade that dijkstra warned against in 1972, when it barely existed even.
asciilifeform: and many 'action at a distance' idiocies
asciilifeform: (in cpp you not only have function calls, but invocations of methods, on objects with wildly varying lifespans and scopes)
asciilifeform: to briefly revisit upstack, the difference matters here in the respect that a ~cpp~ call-grapher is a ~much~ taller order, because of the OOP soup
asciilifeform: the only cpp in my pogo build was trb.
asciilifeform: ( mircea_popescu uses 'c' and 'cpp' interchangeably, but they are quite different , the way heroin and cocaine differ , though both are simply 'dope' to the uninitiated )
asciilifeform: on this list eulora is the only cpp proggy...
asciilifeform: and solely because of the 'grandfather's pistol' aspect
asciilifeform: trb is the only one i know of first-hand
asciilifeform: it isn't clear to me though that there are so many cpp hairballs that justify the salvage effort
