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deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/la-moartea-lui-fulger-on-trilema-rotaku-club/ << Trilema - La Moartea Lui Fulger on Trilema Rotaku Club
hanbot: possibly the fast food fumes interfere
asciilifeform: never did get the airport wifi to work, iirc
hanbot: i think it and heathrow are my least favorite.
hanbot: oh, fun. i'll investigate, meanwhile it should read properly on the index
asciilifeform: hanbot: on my display , the article is about an inch wide ( photos also squashed )
deedbot: http://thewhet.net/2018/04/panama-makes-me-ill/ << The Whet - Panama Makes Me Ill
asciilifeform found only today that apparently 'coreboot' contains something like a minimal gnat runtimelib, as of 2016
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/2C25ED03E53166D7F006E5BE5355A2DE3F122DD94F3971DBB7D23C21355872B7 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1497...1759 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '77.78.96.233 (ssh-rsa key from 77.78.96.233 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (kvm.casablanca.cz. CZ)
a111: Logged on 2018-04-26 19:43 trinque: https://www.phoronix.net/image.php?id=0x2012&image=blt_2012_02_med << look at this dead-eyed creature
asciilifeform: trinque: ha. i expected the usual goatee transsexual thing.
trinque: https://www.phoronix.net/image.php?id=0x2012&image=blt_2012_02_med << look at this dead-eyed creature ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: d to matter, he can be slandered with impunity, troo or not
asciilifeform: the lolturd at the heart of the lj piece, 'This is pure unadulterated slander. Lima is not in any way tainted. It is freshly written MIT code and I was never exposed to original ARM code. This statement is an outrageous lie, and it is amazing that anyone in the open source world would lie like that and expect to get away with it.' << somehow does not occur to the author, that he has a problem , if the 'colour of the bits' is permitte
mircea_popescu: or w/e, "let's see how far i can push nonsense before daddy finally loves me enough to say something"
asciilifeform: hey that's what the dope is for, neh, to put the remaining neurons to narcotic sleep
mircea_popescu: but they're doing the "Clever" thing they picked up at kiddy rape farm (aka "school" in their lingo), whereby "doing it because getting away with it"
mircea_popescu: i do not even for a second believe they don't know better.
asciilifeform: the concern with usg.legality of throwing open 'nda' datashits, leaked src, etc. among the 'respects yer fleadom!11' folx, asciilifeform found 'zoologically' allergenic turn-off even 10yrs ago, barfed, long before encountering mircea_popescu et al
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: presumably they labour under belief that they're in opposition to thebeast. ( rather than the reality of 'obrien' and 'can of coke on the left', 'blue usg', etc padded playrooms )
mircea_popescu: heretics joining them -- well they utterly fucking deserve everything they get, don't they.
asciilifeform: ('to spite the conductor! i'll buy a ticket and.. WALK!11')
mircea_popescu: that much makes sense. the empire of idiots is for and by idiots, yes.
mircea_popescu: everyone else has the ready excuse : i'm with usg because who else would give a straw hat for the asshole of a barely literate black woman ? ~condolezza rice.
asciilifeform: the d00d throwing away his sores, is classical 'назло кондуктору: куплю билет пойду пешком!' analchild maculae ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i honestly enjoy watching "good men" in the sense of dedicatedly evil but biologically promising intellects like this fucktard, the murdock dork and so on getting fucked.
asciilifeform: ( it was the root wank behind the others, i did not link to it because it is deeply opaque other than to dedicated entomologist )
mircea_popescu: , by using more of my work against me... And in the latter case i give people like Jasper and companies like Endless Mobile what they want, in spite of their contemptible actions and statements. Logically, there is only one conclusion possible in that constellation."
mircea_popescu: "Now I have a choice. I can wait until i am in the mood to clean up this code and produce something useful for public consumption, and in the meantime see my name and my work slandered. Or... If i throw my (nasty) code over the wall, someone will rename/rewrite it, mess up a lot of things, and trash me for not having done corner X or Y, so essentially slander me and my work and probably even erase my achievements from history
asciilifeform: aa the gpu d00d
mircea_popescu: https://archive.li/XmwAh << anyway, fwiw the better emo rant (aptly -- on livejournal).
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what cent, these folx work ('work'...?) for ~phree
mircea_popescu: excuse me if they all run together in my mind.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, some dood, thought she did something or the other in crypto
mircea_popescu: because totally, that's what i'm competing with. it's not the case that per-hour imperial pay for computer work is under a cent.
asciilifeform: lolwat when was this
mircea_popescu: "From March 2011 on, I have spent an insane amount of time on this. Codethink paid, all-in-all, 6 weeks of my time when i was between customer projects." << and then come here asking for TWENTy MILLIONS
asciilifeform: trinque: folx who smash their heads repeatedly against immovable (with the available tools) wall, begin to resemble one another, independently of precisely which wall is chosen
mircea_popescu: amusingly, dumbass forgot to start by saying "as mp told me would happen in http://trilema.com/2012/anonimity-or-the-urban-versus-rural-dispute/ i was unable..."
trinque: castrati gotta remove the taint!
trinque: who can differentiate them
trinque: is this the same libreboot tranny, or yet another one
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/564615629DC91F2381C7E379C44EB9B72C6A182C76B3903826E08DAA4D7023BF << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1685...4233 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '189.39.123.81 (ssh-rsa key from 189.39.123.81 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (81.123.39.189.smart.net.br. BR PE)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/2C25ED03E53166D7F006E5BE5355A2DE3F122DD94F3971DBB7D23C21355872B7 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1650...6297 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '77.78.96.233 (ssh-rsa key from 77.78.96.233 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (kvm.casablanca.cz. CZ)
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/the-story-of-the-bitter-thorn-and-other-terrors/ << Trilema - The story of the bitter thorn and other terrors
mircea_popescu: there's nothing wrong with declarative languages ; as proven by the very fact that you find yourself constrained to use them NOW AND AGAIN.
mircea_popescu: pretty much every single thread of "oh, alf could solve this problem -- in a vacuum" comes down to this, an incorrect choice between the two in one of those rare field cases where adherence actually trumps elegance.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, you will not die if you step out of a narrow model. you're a very elegant thinker, and evidently imagine elegance is the only possible value. nevertheless, adherence can on occasion, howsoever rarely but proportionally painfully, actually more valuable than elegance.
asciilifeform: imho 'study arcana of $system' is exactly that. yes, from narrowly tunnelled picture of efficacy -- 'the thing to do.' but from 'want to be man, not extension of machine' pov -- problem.
asciilifeform: recall the trilema piece re 'machinist is not professional, but an accessory to the machine' ?
a111: Logged on 2018-04-26 17:03 mircea_popescu: and so is the situation here, the management cost of the general purpose solution you propose by so far drowns out any possible benefit of "hey, alf had to learn something, instead of relying on his assumptions" you can't imagine.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-26#1805748 << can't resist to come back to this one : imho some types of 'learning' are actually bad for health. ever wonder ~why~ the greybeards are incurable, and never show here ? doesn't seem to you that 20yrs polishing expertise in msexcel^H^H^H^Hpostgres might have something to do with it ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: incidentally , seems to me that this thread is rightfully part of the 40+ yr 'compilers vs hand asm' wars.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> and reasonable performance seems to require manual shift and 'formula 1' pro race driver << Nah, Plenty of enthusiast vehicles are starting to get a "Drag Racing" transmission mode. Shifting in motorsports is mostly preserved for the sport aspect as opposed to the motor part.
mircea_popescu: which yes, marks him for an exceptional manager, but remember -- traddutore, tradditore.
mircea_popescu: because he knows both you and it well enough to lie to both and neither of you get it.
asciilifeform: phf in fact yielded up a pill that 1) makes it happen 2) doesn't write to disk
mircea_popescu: your problem isn't "postregs 10.0". your problem is exactly what i told you yest -- you want support for your recursion exposed by a fucking declarative lang. wtf.
asciilifeform: does mircea_popescu recognize a diff b/w e.g. 'you must learn grassman algebra to understand $system' and 'you must learn postgres 10.0 ...' ?
mircea_popescu: ties neatly into the above discussion re wasted talent also.
mircea_popescu: the ticket to insanity is trying to adapt systems for the benefit of those who didn't want to use them in the first place.
mircea_popescu: it's not worth much to you, ands this because you don't want to write postgres.
asciilifeform: and reasonable performance seems to require manual shift and 'formula 1' pro race driver
mircea_popescu: and so is the situation here, the management cost of the general purpose solution you propose by so far drowns out any possible benefit of "hey, alf had to learn something, instead of relying on his assumptions" you can't imagine. ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: problem is that the 'auto gearbox' in postgres, isn't worth much
mircea_popescu: the mechanical impedance of the pedal drowns out any possible contribution the human c9ould put in. the stick can fucking detect "hey, we're getting moved, undo the coupling!" electronically well enough
mircea_popescu: you understand this ? your car ALSO doesn't expose injector timings to you. i don't care you think you'd do a better job by hand. the direction's been away froim the fucking clutch, even. i personally own a car running tiptonic gearbox and girl who's an excellent stick driver, and she STILL prefers the autoclutch. because the machine does it way the fuck better, what.
phf: mircea_popescu: the ones that don't tend to be contracted by large postgresql users, but then the incentive is fucked up, because large postgresql users have already worked around the well known voodoo cases and want fancy new features instead, that run orthogonal to core (and in a very high level architectural sense are often the result of the core's "voodoo" limitations)
mircea_popescu: very fucking solid lol. it's run trilema for years!!1
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/04/small-town-school-board-faces-heat-over-inaccessible-second-floor-locker-room/ << Qntra - Small Town School Board Faces Heat Over "Inaccessible" Second Floor Locker Room
asciilifeform: ( not as if i have one in my pocket! but seems as if mircea_popescu disagrees that it could be made, in principle ?? )
asciilifeform: why not new tower, >= solid.
asciilifeform: yet somehow the mysql 'tower of pancake' is solid enuff ?
mircea_popescu: yeah, and this tower of pancake would have broken and i wouldn't use it.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: conceivably you could use a subset-of-sql-used-in-mpwp on top of it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, i doubt i'd use this item for anything.
phf: asciilifeform: that's how allegro does it
asciilifeform: ( asciilifeform also suspects that the very problem of 'kill sql' is ill-posed, and that sane replacement would be a much humbler and lower-level thing that actually exposes the mathematical data structures -- e.g. btree -- in a programmable way, with no attempt at 'intelligence' and ~iron~ correspondence b/w what one writes and what the machine does )
mircea_popescu: they're probably sitting somewhere polishing statuetters because the insane culture they live in misdirects them there rather than here.
mircea_popescu: phf, moreover, the incentive structure is FUCKED UP.
asciilifeform: and it lives on, and each new generation gets to suffer in it, because the only folx qualified to kill it are exactly those greybeards, who blew 20+ yrs of life on studying the voodoo incantations.
asciilifeform: phf: and yes also it's a 'job creation language', and imho undeservedly gets good reputation among thinking people ( e.g. mircea_popescu ) because it is the 'jobs for greybeards' type, rather than 'for 19yo shits' a la perl
phf: that is implement the necessary optimization
asciilifeform: 'when you paint the knobs blue, it's o(n log n), but if you paint'em green, it's o(n!)' etc
phf: i suspect a lot of these obvious derivations are well known too, but there's like 5 people who know enough postgresql internals to implement them.
phf: i suspect that's it's my favorite SAT, mapping declarative problems to an optimal imperative solution is NP, but nobody approaches it that way anyway, instead it's heuristics which have specific failure modes on case by case basis. ascii can see see the "obvious" derivation of optimal imperative solution from declarative code, but postgresql's compiler can't
mircea_popescu: but srsly, so what, you dirty the count and re-run the op to find it. big whoop, hapens once every 5 years
a111: Logged on 2018-04-25 15:26 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-25#1805475 << lol somehow nobody but me noticed the bug. i fixed it this morning, all that remains is to clean the crapola from the db, will do this after backup
asciilifeform: this sounds great until it is time to 'unfind' a factor, as in http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-25#1805504 or the prev case where the thing turned up a corner case in bernstein and found 300+ or wat was it spurious factors ☝︎
mircea_popescu: but i'm guessing "first principles" means different things depending on who's wielding it ?
a111: Logged on 2018-04-26 15:45 asciilifeform: because this here is an elementary instance of 'f-student uses bubble sort where adult would quicksort'
mircea_popescu: if your complaint is "why is my counting take time to count", the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-26#1805658 solution is "keep a count, add to it". ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-26 16:06 mircea_popescu: ~at that time~, whenever it is, you can also insert them into a separate table with an autoindex field.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-26#1805702 << i'm surprised that mircea_popescu did not go straight to 'increment a counter when they're found!' ☝︎
mod6: anyway, might be a moot point now that youve changed your number crucher thingy.
mircea_popescu: ~at that time~, whenever it is, you can also insert them into a separate table with an autoindex field. ☟︎
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asciilifeform: i.e. 'for which moduli, are there known factors'
asciilifeform: the 'announce' is not a push process. when rss pg is loaded, and cache expired, it actually issues the query