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danielpbarron: i mostly know middlesex and fairfield counties
danielpbarron: oo maybe i get my trump coin back! :/
adlai: thestringpuller: i was gonna link you to `!s from:ascii ersatz` but you're right there
adlai: asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-03-2016#1431750 << yes, although i have even less business telling him how to play than you do ☝︎
danielpbarron: loooky here, either converse with me or i silence you
danielpbarron: do you think i'm lying?
danielpbarron: so i get profit is what you're saying?
danielpbarron: nope i'm up despite taking a pretty substantial loss on bitbet
ascii_field: and as i understand, receiver needs the technical ability to unravel kakobrekla's code
mircea_popescu: i don't specifically care. as long as the person seems competent... hey.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i was thinking, interviews. think senate hearings for appointees.
ascii_field: nfi, and i have no legit reason to care.
mircea_popescu: well who asks me anything ? i won't like it, but...
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: i could probably be walked through it
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: unless i misread, there is no way it can fully pay out bettors
mircea_popescu: i'd really ask folk in b-a with busienss experience to seriously consider doing this. a clean close-down of a bitcoin venture would be truly an absolute first.
jurov: ben_vulpes: and i also have some 0.8btc skin in it
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: i'd open a perimutuel bet that nassim who play receiver, but i don't trust betmoooose
ascii_field: but there i go.
ascii_field: i have equally little business telling lee sedol how to play
ben_vulpes: i've been told that i have no business saying anything about bitbet's business, ascii_field.
pete_dushenski: thank goodness i've been wearing my plague mask in the bedroom of late. it brought me luck!
assbot: Logged on 13-03-2016 20:51:27; mircea_popescu: anyway, to be perfectly clear, i don't think kakobrekla did anything wrong at any juncture, nor am i privately holding anything against the man. while the outcome is miserable, i dun think there's necessarily much that could have been done to prevent it.
mircea_popescu: well what the fuck, i'm not leaving this in my will fee tail.
ben_vulpes: "I will simply consider the matter moot." << and keep bettor funds if no receiver steps forward? ☟︎☟︎
pete_dushenski: i always found it incredible how prominent and successful bbet was, and how little profit it generated from its nearly monopolistic position
mircea_popescu: something like that i guess.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i'm sorry, what ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, to be perfectly clear, i don't think kakobrekla did anything wrong at any juncture, nor am i privately holding anything against the man. while the outcome is miserable, i dun think there's necessarily much that could have been done to prevent it. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: and in spite of being uncharacteristically verbose for a human being... apparently i don't write everything either.
ascii_field: i suppose it is true that inventor never has half a clue re the long term.
mircea_popescu: i invent things by degrees and i can't always and on the button answer as to the logic of things. they go in a context. i know for a fact the arrangement make sense in 2012, but entirely hazy as to the reasoning.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field> bbet long pre-dates my study of mircea_popescutronics, and i have nfi <<< it's not terribly clear to me either, after all these years.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: creditors first, aha, after i asked, i remembered this
ascii_field: bbet long pre-dates my study of mircea_popescutronics, and i have nfi, was the plan that it could never incur unexpected expense ?
ascii_field: also i realized that i never learned what was the logic for 0asset operations ?
ascii_field: is this traditional? (i am not connected with any of this, merely curious how it worx) ☟︎
ascii_field: anyway while i expect to eventually be smashed into pieces, i do not expect anyone to actually pick any of them up. nor do i really give a damn.
ascii_field: i dun think i ever actually saw mircea_popescu pick up pieces.
ascii_field: i can more easily see mircea_popescu raising a guerilla army in nepal or the like.
ascii_field: i didn't think so.
mircea_popescu: that i'm perpetually going to pick up the pieces. i'm not.
mircea_popescu: i must say the experience has been rather sobering as to all sorts of naive assumptions as to value, wealth and economics in the bitcoin world.
ascii_field: i already stand on th board with only one foot, in having lately to spend virtually all of my time working on idiotic rubbish so as to pay the rent.
ascii_field: jurov: since you mentioned it, i will explain that i can be taken off the gameboard in any of 1,001 different simple ways, by the lizards, and i have no defense, and that you and the rest should expect this to happen sooner or later and study accordingly
ascii_field: the only reason it has not happened is that i'm ineffective and uninteresting to anyone...
ascii_field: i have nothing with which to defend.
jurov: but i did not ask about ubuntu. i asked about m$ suing you about infringing their patents
assbot: Logged on 13-03-2016 18:51:57; danielpbarron: jurov> i wonder what alf will do << lemme try and fill in while he's away : mega-snore! ubuntu, the winbl0wz of linux, thought it could make a smart-f0ne when obviously the mobile world is for usg-blessed corps
ben_vulpes: at least i only had to type my password the *first* time i booted bitcoin under gdb
ben_vulpes: let's just cram all the things i hate about my life into one tidy little package
mod6: i did get gnat to work, so at least i can play with sample programs locally etc.
danielpbarron: i think there's already a precedent for the other part; see SEC vs MP
danielpbarron: jurov> i wonder what alf will do << lemme try and fill in while he's away : mega-snore! ubuntu, the winbl0wz of linux, thought it could make a smart-f0ne when obviously the mobile world is for usg-blessed corps ☟︎
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo i have nfi what's going on with those two articles. they don't even make sense. << I'll get to cutting
jurov: i wonder what alf will do when he receives inevitable cease and desist letter wrt gossipd/ada/anythingelse patents
lexborisov: I need to get away for awhile. After returning to read through the links
danielpbarron: I understand you well enough
lexborisov: I'm from Russia for a long time choosing my words. My English is not so good as we would like. Sorry
lexborisov: No, if admit that I do not even know what it is
lexborisov: Sorry, but I do not understand what's going on here. That is what this chat?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i have nfi what's going on with those two articles. they don't even make sense.
nubbins`: i admittedly DGAF about sedol vs alphago, but wasn't the series best 3 out of 5?
danielpbarron: neato, the thing lets me "privately publish" so I can keep my own copy of it without it cluttering up my draft list or showing up on the rss
BingoBoingo: Anyways I guess today is danielpbarron shits on the Bill Gates charitable legacy day.
danielpbarron: yeah i noticed that too, but i figured since my wordpress generated the stuff it would unpack to the same thing i saw in yours
BingoBoingo: Desperate for Beetus https://i.sli.mg/ZBVBHD.jpg
phf: when i see these people https://images.encyclopediadramatica.se/e/e5/Fattrannys.jpg they now remind me of BingoBoingo and his crusade
shinohai: i am running an abe but it isn't fully synced.
phf: wintermute (btcbase machine) is unfit for the purpose, since i suspect digitalocean will kill it pretty fast
phf: but i don't have a complete blockchain, and since i'm not using any sql type stuff, i need to look into how much space various hashes take up when loaded into memory
phf: i have block explorer code, i think last time i touched it i was working on getting all the various hashes link to the right places (previous transaction, addresses, etc.)
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: I'll get this up in a bit.
danielpbarron: man it's way easier to prepare qntra articles with my blog draft setup, and if you don't like it i'm already all set to publish it myself :D
phf: i found a watch for asciilifeform http://www.ebay.com/itm/Seiko-UC-2200-Series-Controller-Printer-with-Wrist-Computer-Watch-UC-2000-/152006653855
phf: i'm confused, src/headers imports openssl/sha yeah?
ben_vulpes: i looked at main's imports and didn't see it including any other bitcoind namespaces pulling in the openssl/sha files
ben_vulpes: phf: while i have your attention, do you have any idea how the various SHA256_Init, _Transform functions get into main.cpp?
mod6: <+shinohai> mod6: i built this as qemu img so i can try to make mirror of the whole shebang. << ah ok
BingoBoingo: I might start playing with that, but can't run it until Monday. If it drops has to be fresh for Tuesday's votings
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo speaking of which, perhaps it's time to start referencing usg as "the government IN washington" ? not like it's legitimate or anything. << I'll have to do some reading into the right way to deny them legitimacy in writing
mircea_popescu: i was thinking wtf.
shinohai: mod6: i built this as qemu img so i can try to make mirror of the whole shebang.
mod6: oh, i fucked up the url
phf: ben_vulpes: also dood wtf you stop in the city, swing through powells, and can't go 2 mi out of the way to get your eyes on my fp and mine on yours? << i'm guilty as charged, but it was not intended as a slight, so please don't take it as such. i needed to clear my head, and while i thought i should reach out, i didn't have it in me. this is not the last time i'm in Oregon this year, so i promise to not make the same mistake again :)
phf: i think there's a fukamachi project that does html parsing with the intent of scrapping, but it's the guy behind woo http server (i.e. cffi to libev, full "modernizayshn" kool aid), http://cl21.org, so i've not looked at it
phf: asciilifeform: b) readermacro in commonlisp, it turns into s-expression as well formed as the html, and the resulting proggy is what, ten line. << i wish, closure-html is 4252 uloc, depends on cxml 7881 uloc, depends on closure-common 2053 uloc.
mircea_popescu: it's on their fucking heads. when i'm not willing to pay as much as a farthing for the continuance of the world they built, this'd be why.
mircea_popescu: nah, i didn't ask you to maintain one. i asked for one to exist.
asciilifeform: even though various folks i respect have asked
asciilifeform: which is why i do not succumb to the temptation of maintaining a public linux flavour, for instance
asciilifeform: but i will not nod to cementing them into the future.
asciilifeform: i use plenty of loathesome things
punkman: I'd rather stop using one of the popular browsers
asciilifeform: punkman: aaaaaah yeah suure i so yearn for 10000s lines of c parsing poorly defined crapolade datastructures on my box
asciilifeform: i hope they get 'sooorprised' by falling anvil.
asciilifeform: aaaand that's where i jump off that train into the underbrush and join up with the partizans.
mircea_popescu: i don't think you understand what "parse html" means.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-03-2016#1431119 << this is nifty ~but~ i invoke greenspun's tenth. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i dunno how one could refuse widow of comrade huh.