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mircea_popescu: in other lulz, reddit/bitcoin apparently mass-downvoting the story of bitbet NOT being
a scam ?
copumpkin: so I claim on reddit that I have
a balance, and you keep claiming that you never get my orders
copumpkin: if you don't honor
a withdrawal, that's different
copumpkin: I'm saying that it's fine if you don't honor
a sell order of mine
copumpkin: that's fine. But signing my slips still gives me
a verifiable paper trail of the things I attempted to have you do, whether or not you guarantee doing them. It gives me an avenue to claim that you've at least seen and acknowledged an order, even if execution is best-effort
copumpkin: I could then store those signatures and chew you out publicly in the case of
a dispute
copumpkin: your gpg-centric system could give me that by simply signing
a fingerprint of my commands
mircea_popescu: and there's no inefficiency in the system as it is, for it is simple. the inefficiency begins once you expect to have
a 2nd "superior" channel on top of the slips. which will then have to be managed.
copumpkin:
a) the coins have already been sent to the wrong place. Perhaps I'm not "liable" and have
a claim, but it's adding inefficiency to the system if you have to cover for
a mistake which could've been avoided in the first place
mircea_popescu:
a) "too late" for what ; b) if there's an old slip of yours, it either has an address that was paid in it or not. if it does, then it doens't matter ; if it doesn't, you have
a claim.
copumpkin: yes, but I have no receipt acknowledgment of that signed slip. You've just acknowledged getting some slip, and are not committing to any particular slip of mine. If you mess up your book-keeping, you might dig up an old signed slip of mine making
a different request to
a different address, and I'd have nothing to talk to you about until after it was too late
copumpkin: there's no acknowledgment of the parameters of the withdrawal. For all I know you think I want
a completely different amount, to
a completely different address :P
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: also, as general good practice, it'd probably be good to include the address and amount of the withdrawal in the message, perhaps with
a date. Currently the message is
a constant, so the signature on it feels
a little less valuable
gribble: Error: "b" is not
a valid command.
trinque: sorry about that guys. I left
a tcpdump running to catch the SSL weird and filled my disk
mircea_popescu: it specifically says you're not supposed to play as
a 0.00x
mircea_popescu: suppose you have 3.141592 squnits of brain. you get the option of making it into
a circle [mens sana in corpore sano!!1] and you are guaranteed to be no dumber than 1.
mircea_popescu: it's almost as if the meta-brain was made of plasticine, and with
a fixed origin. yes you can make it go as far in one direction as you want, but this thins it out in all others, meaning there's an exponential relation between "furthest out" and "furthest in" points
phf: mircea_popescu: i don't think so, since moses was
a man on
a mission from god, it would be
a distraction for him (from the mission) to choose to become
a magi, hence the story
mircea_popescu: is it
a wall, that the impotent can not fuck, for the not fucking ?
mircea_popescu: if roxy goes into the bath in front of the trusty eunuch, is she
a pile of bricks ?
mircea_popescu: it's
a case of "the cure seeker never really needed
a cure - magic was always in him ; the non-seeker... well..."
mircea_popescu: there's
a deep reason that works, and that deep reason is that these aren't whole men.
mircea_popescu: in the first kind, random derp ends up with some chumpatronium. being random he is randomly distributed re skill, and normally the juice leaves him. similarly if i took
a marketable blonde and told her to go live with random guy on the street, which she will because they do what i say, he'll STILL manage to lose her over time.
mircea_popescu: didn't he have
a webbegging page up for
a new engine back when the lulz at him started ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform hey, he lives on
a boat, what could possibly go wrong
phf: mircea_popescu: nah, worst case it doesn't return to
a default (typically much more permissive) umask after handling the keys
mircea_popescu: yes it will brain-parasite
a bunch of retarded hablaespanoles.
mircea_popescu: looky, even here, the faux is obvious : "solamente correos cifrados porfa thunderbird/enigmail" ? gimme
a fucking break.
mircea_popescu: here's
a thought, nobody that needs to discuss computing in his dumb mother's tongue has what it takes to "luchar".
gribble: Error: "aprendamos" is not
a valid command.
midnightmagic: He hated them. He liked nice horses but as
a whole found them capricious and unpredictable beasts harder to maintain than an old austin.
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic he was 70ish, and was
a small child at the time.
mircea_popescu: (i've had the pleasure to do exactly that - by the way, stuck in cab with old driver on avenida corrientes - which has been here since the ancient days before planes were
a thing - and reminescing how this road was fine back when 20 men could ride abreast - but not so far today when 3 cars and
a bus can)
mircea_popescu: not necessarily that far. merely pointing out that this car is worse than
a horse is not necessarily
a proposition to eschew all further use of fire.
midnightmagic: ahI hardly think
a baby's chance encounter with chlamydia is
a positive evolutionary pressure. Besides, if all that was the ideal then all medicine must be eschewed in service of the notion of natural selection, while
a belief in our *ability to detect long-term positive evolutionary mutations* must be assumed perfect.
mircea_popescu: however - it turns out high infant mortality is absolutely necessary for males to even consider starting
a family. if there's 0 natural selection going on in the litter the task of extracting unworthy worms from the wailing woman's clutches to bang their head against
a rock is just too damned demaning and ultimately not worth the hassle.
mircea_popescu: in unrelated news, "This is your XQJ-37 plasma cannon. The only trouble is that since the old model XQJ was cobbled together from junked Amiga motherboards, you can only have one shot on the screen at
a time."
midnightmagic: That is true. Can the poison be separated from the person now? Is it possible to live
a pure life in that sense? I know some who do. Like right now. Friends. And while integration with our life is impossible by now, they are wistful.
mircea_popescu: and note that most people lived quite happily under same soapy smith. in fact, from experience
a mob run town is
a better place than
a bureaucrat run town, without exceptions.
midnightmagic: e
a kind of fiefdom in such
a past I think might wish to make the journey to begin with, but exposure to violence of the sort Soapy Smith meted out is, I think, something no one given the choice with eyes open could make, constitution notwithstanding.
midnightmagic: Of course were I pure hypothetical pure soul standing in front of many bags, into each one I could leap and choose what time I arrived, absent any cultural baggage and in any event viscera at all, perhaps I would think differently. As I am now? Disease, sanitation, violence, injustice, cruelty, exposure, starvation.. these are alien pressures to any of us.
A rare, rare few thinking they could achiev
mircea_popescu: your epithets are about as interesting as the miners calling you
a confused youth with no real understanding of the world.
midnightmagic: The people who sought out the Klondike were people whose lives were often equally brutish, violent, oppressed, and hateful. Hard work was so hard by our reckoning that doing it at home or believing the lies of the thrice-remove rumour mill impossible to corroborate was enough to drive them by the thousands across land and sea and river for the promise of
a life *where they no longer had to deal with
midnightmagic: Amusing tangential but related example is Seth McFarlane's diatribe in 100 Ways To Die In The West, which in its agonizing detail describes wild west living in
a way rarely seen in sanitized novels written by people more interested in Marty Robbins folk song. :)
mircea_popescu: instead, she gets
a mother that forces
a curetage on her that ends up with
a hysterectomy,
mircea_popescu: consider as
a simple example palindromes,
a 2004 film by todd solondz. it tells the story of
a plain, common girl aged 13 that wants to get pregnant. she is in this representative of
a small but present throughout history minority. for living in any other time, she would have had
a husband, children and
a family and been perfectly happy. such as is amply recorded, as undesirious we might be to look at the records.
midnightmagic: I merely intended to convey the hypothetical notion of an actual life as experienced first-hand. Even 100 years ago frontiersmen arriving to the Klondike, as
a more accessible example, lived
a life so perilous and filled with hardship I doubt nearly anyone alive would choose to return to it.
mircea_popescu: "
a factual account" is an exercise in nonsense. should this "factual" be presented in ideological terms alligned with the present insanity, and should this "tabula rasa" item be somehow atuned to same ideological terms (which has exactly no chance of happening, but they invested in promoting and preserving said idiocy like to pretend it's somehow natural and universal, like all other ideological blind tunnels ever), then yes.
midnightmagic: Either through modern weakness, or perhaps
a lack of related distant observational choice of
a pure soul about to be born, it would surprise me indeed to discover
a current-era developed-nation citizen who when presented with
a factual account of ancient human life would choose to return to primal ways. The romance of the garden of eden is similarly equidistant from fact as is the romance of classic
midnightmagic: Such
a thing did I not say; but rather to assert both that
a 12-day repeating cycle would be
a sad life, and that ancient humans lived
a sad and brutish life to which few, if any, modern humans would realistically adhere should they find themselves the unwitting beneficiary of what heretofore might be considered the romantic notion of historical displacement!
mircea_popescu: ~nobody at any point in history was as sad
a lot as the ~1bn dead souls captive in the said remains of "the western world"
mircea_popescu: the notion that the aforementioned 7 day cycle / daily cycle human was SAD is so much fan wank, to survive in the minds of the incredibly sad contemporary population mostly on the grounds that hey, panglossism is easy and where would they meet
a german serf anyway, to find out first hand he was actually having
a better life than they do.
midnightmagic: Historically humans have been
a fairly sad lot by the reckoning of reasonably educated developed-nation citizens. But no, it just seems that while I look away things happen that I find interesting with frequent regularity.
mircea_popescu: hey, most humans historically lived on
a 7 day cycle composed of
a smaller 1 day cycle 85% of the time.
midnightmagic: It would indeed be
a sad life were
a human be doomed to repeat
a 12-day cycle ad infinitum!
mircea_popescu: well if you actively observe
a day every 12, you have
a 94% chance of missing events.
midnightmagic: hrm. maybe the /topic needs and update for accuracy's sake re: +v being
a sort of viral thing
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: so if you are majority owner of the new private mpex, did you just force
a sale of mpex to yourself?
gribble: Error: "up" is not
a valid command.