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jurov: oh, i like the proposal, except that i'm always two minds about anything
asciilifeform: but what i'd like to know is why none of you lot commented.
asciilifeform: they didn't even ~have~ captchas last time i logged in...
jurov: i don't have acct there, not interested so much as to solve their impossible captchas
davout: I lol'd at bitbet's first bet: https://bitbet.us/bet/1
trinque: I'm open to something like that; I've been doing a lot of work on deedbot lately
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> hanbot mod6 maybe an extension to deedbot where people could go !tag <string> and then a collection of clickable tags is published somewhere, each leading to a list of loglines ? << This could work -- it's in the vein of the 'BUTTSECKS' flag. Which seems simple enough. And the given topic-'tag' is a decent idea, i.e. 'OOM' or 'Cramer-Shoup' or 'keccak'
assbot: Logged on 21-03-2016 13:48:22; shinohai: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ubuntubsd-first-release <<< I think I threw up a little when I read this.
mircea_popescu: "way down deep in the middle of the jungle a hippo humped a manatee and spawned a scary daughter - i know, we'll call her ubuntu!"
shinohai: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ubuntubsd-first-release <<< I think I threw up a little when I read this. ☟︎
asciilifeform: i live in the 'harvester'; BingoBoingo, i think - mars.
assbot: Logged on 21-03-2016 07:47:15; mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i have traveled to africa. unless one means specially designated experimental lab (some towns in south africa etc), internet connection is poor.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I cannot help the lulz that commenters bring, but I can appreciate them
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i have traveled to africa. unless one means specially designated experimental lab (some towns in south africa etc), internet connection is poor. ☟︎
hanbot: mod6 index idea could work, obvs hinges on whether i manage to organize something more precise/inclusive than a keyword grep'd put out. i'll look at it tomorrow/tues and report back.
mircea_popescu: and it is deeply shameful, for you, that i have to tell you this.
mircea_popescu: so to sum it up : i'd like you to show me the fucking common courtesy of considering whether next time you highlight me, i could in any conceivable manner have any interest in whatever is in there.
mircea_popescu: what the fuck am i, in this incredibly infantile, and deeply ustardian conception of the world ? free for the taking or something ?
mircea_popescu: how exactly did you judge the cost function of not spamming mp nonsense so it came below the value of talking to nubbins` ? i wish to know, explain this to me.
nubbins`: asciilifeform i think he's saying that you're not allowed to talk about mp with me
mircea_popescu: i can't distinguish if you are genuinely missing something, or not. which is why i ask you.
asciilifeform: or was he formally lowered into pederasty and i missed ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: unless i missed something, fella's technically still 'lord', and belongs in the forum, neh ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i missed the 'don't talk to folks mircea_popescu killfiled' rule in the handbook ?
nubbins`: but i do suspect on a ~10% probability that he's satoshi
nubbins`: i kid, of course.
asciilifeform: i did not say he was drooling in a ditch penniless, did i.
nubbins`: no, i don't think you do
asciilifeform: nubbins`: i want what mircea_popescu took.
nubbins`: asciilifeform iirc i offered you some a while back but we decided you wouldn't take it
asciilifeform: nubbins`: what i'd like is for him to share the lsd!
asciilifeform: i dun have grievances, l0l. well possibly other than the promised snow did not come, i was gonna play go under the blooming sakuras ~in motherfucking snow~ and no go. but afaik mircea_popescu is not responsible for this.
asciilifeform: i have the better theory. what do i need to do, arrange the sybils personally, nuke other tx ?
asciilifeform: i mean, mircea_popescu can do whatever he likes with his toys, but let's not pretend that the matter was settled as some kind of actual argument in the phorum
nubbins`: only reason i bothered to chip in was to smother hanbot's hallucinations
mats: it isn't the allegation, it is the 1000x repetition that i'm looking at
nubbins`: however, there stands bitbet in the state it's in. you saying that mp threw in the towel because i bullied him into it?
nubbins`: mats in fact i came back here after quite an absence and found the shit still on fire
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: when i asked 'why is miner collusion a necessary hypothesis to explain the bbet reactor melt' i got argumentum ad dirigible.
nubbins`: hey, i walked into a conversation already happening
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-03-2016#1436918 << now i'll bite, ~where~ uncontroversial ? at mircea_popescu's house ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 08-03-2016 00:21:18; nubbins`: if i had a satoshi for every time mp said "looky" when he'd lost an argument, i'd be able to donate a tx fee to bitbet
mircea_popescu: i am saying that whatever you're talking to her about, stick to it an' let me be.
mircea_popescu: looky : part of your trying to cope with hanbot's deriding your peculiar notion of responsibility was to come hide under my skirts. i said plox don't come hide under my skirts. that's all.
mircea_popescu: but "i dunno, wasn't there, don't believe" does not actually enact anything. it's just the typical position of the scholar withdrawing from the world.
kakobrekla: i know this http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-03-2016#1436889 ☝︎
nubbins`: altho i guess it's mostly a show for folks that don't go back and read the logs
nubbins`: kakobrekla i could've told you last week that they'd fever-dream their way through this
kakobrekla: or maybe mp can go "i, mp, have through a series of mistakes made a double payment and will now pretend it was a chinese conspiracy, say publicly i did it masochistically but actually bill it sadistically to the company as a made up war expense"
hanbot: nah, take responsibility for the following thing: "i, kakobrekla, turned the situation where the shareholders owed 17 btc and had credit to repay it in the future, into a situation where the shareholders have nothing, and the bettors owe at least 13 btc, if not more. this is the best i could do, hire me and i'll do the same for you."
kakobrekla: hanbot please enlighten me how and why should i take responsibility for mps double payment of which i was aware of only after the fact?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i intend to be dead first !111
mircea_popescu: i'd rather alphago do it.
mircea_popescu: let it be stated that i don't wish asciilifeform to be doing any interpreting of what i've said after i'm dead.
hanbot: kakobrekla from the outside, all that's seen is you going gotta protect the shareholders!!1 and a week later the shareholders are fucked...and the customers are boiling. not that i expect you to take responsibility rather than talk about it, but you've fucked up.
mircea_popescu: i'm starting to notice that most insufferable things and people i ever ran across were computers and computer experts.
asciilifeform: normally i'm the one who immediately 'notion of computing!11'
kakobrekla: asciilifeform we discussed various models of bitbet operations, one of mps suggestions was that i hold the btc and flush the deposits over to him occasionally or somesuch which i refused and suggested he gives me a huge list of his address which i will be handing out
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: i might be too 'young' for this. how did it go that you 'refused to handle them' ?
kakobrekla: the point is that i agreed to do bitbet back then as long as mp is responsible and liable for bitcoins (as per thread - i refused to handle them)- which he no longer wants to be
nubbins`: i give precisely, literally, zero fucks about anything to do with bitbet, mp, etc
nubbins`: <+asciilifeform>https://bitbet.us/bet/1249/alphago-will-defeat-lee-sedol-overall-in-march/#c5867 << there is what, dozen of these, and i dun think they're all nubbins`.. << why does everyone labour under the impression that i think about any of this shit while i'm not here?
hanbot: yes, i recall
kakobrekla: hanbot lolwat, i managed to destroy? do you recall writing https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124441.0 (especially point 0)
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: unfortunately i haven't found a way to truncate this log
mircea_popescu: but i ~am~ well impressed by the proposition. i suppose coming up next is, "asciilifeform and poettering both write software".
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'Царь справедливый и тиран. Не одинаковы бывают. Так хлебопашец и кабан. По-разному поля взрыхляют.' << i found in yellowed vintage volume of transl. of persian poetry to ru, as a kid
asciilifeform: i mean, did they fuck somebody other than 'consumer', or they fucked with wrong kind of stick, or what.
asciilifeform: 'i put in a coin in the coke machine and nothing came out.' ' mircea_popescu: let them go to mechanic school, learn to fix machines...'
asciilifeform: who, very reasonably, 'i put in coin and nothing came out, wtf'
thestringpuller: i really should patch this to rotate logs...
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: now this is interesting, and i would really like to see the log
thestringpuller: once synced it was like "okay i'm done" and just stopped receiving blocks
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: i used it just for syncing!
assbot: Logged on 18-03-2016 18:11:44; kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-03-2016#1435731 < not at all - i think there is some merit in the argument in the sense that bitbet will hardly survive the upset its going through now (which is actually devaluating the asset to be liquidated)
thestringpuller: this, but I think it may have other behavior
asciilifeform: https://bitbet.us/bet/1249/alphago-will-defeat-lee-sedol-overall-in-march/#c5867 << there is what, dozen of these, and i dun think they're all nubbins`..
asciilifeform: i wouldn't dream of using it for a project tho
asciilifeform: i mercifully forgot.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform now i'd rather fancy to see this thing. pic it sometime.
asciilifeform: and i have grass like this right here in my backyard!11
asciilifeform: i'dve assumed ru
phf: i have a hunch that this is not a conspiracy of incompetents, but rather an aspect of the whole knowing the unknown in relation to yourhead. i.e. stupid is not obscurantist for your benefit, but for own
phf: as manifest in every "my first crypto", this is so convoluted i can't grok it, surely nobody else can
mircea_popescu: un minimo respecto por el trabajador, i say.
mircea_popescu: then i get incensed when derps start with the "~~~~~I~~~~~ don't see how..."
mircea_popescu: "i kept no records of the presumptions i made in constructing the subclass, therefore no such presumptions exist!"
thestringpuller: i'll have to grep it for when it stopped
mircea_popescu: in other news, i had never discussed theology on a blog before. dat republic!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform << undisclosed addresses? unprincipled-exception from 'no such thing as taint' ?!! << very principled. "no such thing as taint" means that i do not recognize the concept, or any reasoning that relies on it. it very pointedly does not mean i will behave in such a manner as to protect the taint assumptions of third parties but just the opposite.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i use coreboot, and would put in what i want, but the ~hardware~ makes no provision
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> hell i'd put it in bios if x86 had any provision for this <<< odd that the bios has provision for any and all retarded shits, including "power saving" but not for defining the buttons.
phf: i assume it can be built with qt3, but it still hard depends on dbus? or you mean that it just requires patching
assbot: Logged on 20-03-2016 15:25:22; phf: i don't remember homebrew pulling guile, so it's something gentoo specific. and putting -guile into useflags don't do notin
asciilifeform: i have nfi what the upside of guile was supposed to be
asciilifeform: i started actually making a systematic list of exclusions, then barfed, really we want to enumerate ~good~ parts, they are few
phf: i don't remember homebrew pulling guile, so it's something gentoo specific. and putting -guile into useflags don't do notin ☟︎
phf: also i learned that gnutls depends on guile :o
asciilifeform: hell i'd put it in bios if x86 had any provision for this
asciilifeform: i don't EVER want capslock to not be ctrl.