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punkman: I guess not very amusing for the folks losing money
asciilifeform: i enjoyed nubbins` 's b000kz. and wish he didn't insist on building his outhouse here.
nubbins`: god, how humiliating for mp. he explicitly ordered that i be banished and it didn't happen
nubbins`: thanks, i'd hoped so
punkman: not that I endorse all of nubbins` trollin'
assbot: Logged on 24-03-2016 00:31:10; kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-03-2016#1439692 < and i actually suspect, given your recent reckless behaviour followed by destructive actions you have been compromised by that very same fiat system and are on a good way of dismantling the republic (simulate a world where mp admits a mistake and eats his own cooking and see how it compares to this)
asciilifeform: nubbins`: somehow you ended up stuck on 1 subj, which is why folks are trying to unplug ya. try starting a blog? i - will read it, fwiw.
nubbins`: but i'm more than okay with how this trade has worked out
nubbins`: note that without mp scamz0ring, i didn't have any other outstanding issues
asciilifeform: nubbins`: fwiw you got my - because you refuse to quit shitting in the kitchen. i waited for weeks, thinking you would tire of it, but no dice. if you want to constructively nemesis mp, start a blog, ffs.
nubbins`: i'd be surprised if any rational adult thought what internet-friendz thought of them
nubbins`: i hear they taste like the toes of a man so lazy and slothful that he thought his indigestion was pancreatic cancer
nubbins`: asciilifeform fwiw you now fall under the "people i no longer respect" category, have fun licking mp's toes
nubbins`: just wanted to take this opportunity, while i can still self-voice, to let you all know that most of you are weeaboo basement-dwelling troglodytes and i respect very few of you ☟︎
BingoBoingo: <pete_dushenski> lol more than a few of us probably also thought we'd be riding the btc-waves to being deca+millionaires by 2016. this bitcoin thing is taking far longer than i, at least, had anticipated. << You've gotta have a fief to contribute to these things
assbot: Logged on 24-03-2016 00:32:07; kakobrekla: that being said, i believe b-a should be self regulating and not depended on what mp or kako thinks, the solution, already in effect, is: the condition to self-voice is no longer L1>0 || L2>0 but instead L1 + L2 > 0, which also goes along the notion that lordship no longer exists. the power is your hands now, people.
kakobrekla: i possibly just initiated it
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla freenode says nanotube for some reason. which is odd, i also recalled you had registered it.
assbot: Logged on 23-03-2016 22:44:19; pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: lol funny you should ask. i just came across a research paper on very much this topic the other day, which i've now uploaded on my site for posterity (and your consideration) : http://www.contravex.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Behavioral-Despair-in-the-Talmud.pdf
kakobrekla: (i also created #bitcoin-otc-eu)
mircea_popescu: for curiosity, i actually checked the old logs. this was reg'd apr 10th 2012 ; at the time i was hanging out in #bitcoin-otc-eu ; he mentioned it there sometime on the 12th that caught my eye and the rest be history.
asciilifeform: i just got invited to play.
asciilifeform: i dun actually have any problem with folks buildin' toys and playing by the rules they themselves conceive
asciilifeform: but i have no strong emotion re this. nor 'did anybody ask me' (tm) (r)
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: i guess i misunderstood the new formula, i thought it'd be a 'house of lords' vs 'commons' thing, where l1 could be lowered into pederasty by negs from l1 solely.
mircea_popescu: not a cure but a stitch. i see. well... for now, anyway.
kakobrekla: yes, however i repeat: the condition to self-voice is no longer L1>0 || L2>0 but instead L1 + L2 > 0
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla i don't rightly understand what this midway solution actually is. so if l1 is empty, then how is l2 defined. and if l1 isn't empty then... what ?
mircea_popescu: i guess might as well try this.
mircea_popescu: i'm about as interested in participating in democracy of any kind or description as you can imagine. #b-a existed to any degree and in any sense for as long as it wasn't that. it can go back to being #okcupid or whatever the fuck else the "power of the people" warrants.
mod6: i got my red-dragon compiler book!
kakobrekla: that being said, i believe b-a should be self regulating and not depended on what mp or kako thinks, the solution, already in effect, is: the condition to self-voice is no longer L1>0 || L2>0 but instead L1 + L2 > 0, which also goes along the notion that lordship no longer exists. the power is your hands now, people. ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 23-03-2016 23:35:36; mircea_popescu: i dunno, but the fact remains this nonsense can't continue, if for no reason then because i won't be any part of the most recent attempt of fiat world to reclaim the republic. so for the sake of variety, let's go with : kakobrekla, you willing to take nubbins off the l1 ?
kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-03-2016#1439692 < and i actually suspect, given your recent reckless behaviour followed by destructive actions you have been compromised by that very same fiat system and are on a good way of dismantling the republic (simulate a world where mp admits a mistake and eats his own cooking and see how it compares to this) ☝︎☟︎
kakobrekla: i made it inhabitable for some interesting folks with (the lack of) various rules and various perks.
pete_dushenski: though i admit it's a bit strange that we're not on 19ghz boxes in the back seats of our autonomous cars...
pete_dushenski: but ya, being as rich as i thought i ~wanted~ to be by this point would not doubt cause as many problems as i imagined it'd solve. besides, what fucking problems ??
pete_dushenski: lol more than a few of us probably also thought we'd be riding the btc-waves to being deca+millionaires by 2016. this bitcoin thing is taking far longer than i, at least, had anticipated.
pete_dushenski: but hey, i was young
pete_dushenski: after skipping half of today's lengthy logs myself, i'm all too happy to do my part
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fwiw i just finally barfed.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, but the fact remains this nonsense can't continue, if for no reason then because i won't be any part of the most recent attempt of fiat world to reclaim the republic. so for the sake of variety, let's go with : kakobrekla, you willing to take nubbins off the l1 ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: 1 has the manifest disadvantage that it is an exact replay of the bitbet drama. it may be argued that it is "clean" and "elegant" and "all i wanted was to protect you, son", which is so much idiotic patriarchical nonsense it makes my skin crawl - and thus let's extend kakobrekla in public the same sympathies extended in private ;
mircea_popescu: reviewing that, i can either 1) log as mod and ban the schmuck or else 2) ask kakobrekla to alter the l1.
mircea_popescu: mk, so upon consideration, the issue here is that me nulling the logs is at best a stopgap, and no sort of long term or tenable solution. there's certainly no sense in me continuing to pour words into a bag i won't read the logs of, wtf.
asciilifeform: i may not count for much, but will not countenance the fanning.
asciilifeform: i created v specifically as an anti-git.
asciilifeform: mrottenkolber: you are, i'm afraid, wasting your time.
assbot: Logged on 18-01-2016 16:15:45; ascii_butugychag: btw i hope everybody understands that life with 'v' is always going to resemble dark age blood sports like cvs, etc. far more than modern greased poles (e.g., 'git')
mrottenkolber: I know you are all gonna hate this, but for what its worth, I got some Git/V interop going: https://github.com/eugeneia/vgit ☟︎
nubbins`: i just started keeping track of what i ate
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: No. The most recent thing They've attached the name to in the US is clearly not actually a Miata. I'm not invested enough in the question though to make a hard determination on when the newer vehicles stopped becoming miatas
nubbins`: i've shed 26lb since xmas!
pete_dushenski: it addresses exactly the "can i pick it up if it's dropped?" question
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: lol funny you should ask. i just came across a research paper on very much this topic the other day, which i've now uploaded on my site for posterity (and your consideration) : http://www.contravex.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Behavioral-Despair-in-the-Talmud.pdf ☟︎
danielpbarron: which I think is made clear enough by the line about how it's the sole discression of MPEx to decide how to resolve issues
nubbins`: "you need to get the rats out of the kitchen and then later you'll want to make a meal there? i think not"
jurov: you're under impression i'm trying to oust him? just by reminding him he may have done an error?
danielpbarron: so what then, you need to oust the current rule maker and then this place will be worth inhabiting? I think not.
assbot: Logged on 07-03-2016 13:32:31; danielpbarron: i'm not interested in bitcoin if he's not interested in it
nubbins`: like i said before, popescu is basically a better-read karpeles
jurov: no actually i did what you're asking "maybe i'm wrong, get fine with it"
punkman: considering everyone is using private addresses these days, I wonder if donations are still a thing
jurov: i just can't run business that way
assbot: Case I - Wences vs MPEx, Breach of fiduciary duty on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1PsaeiI )
danielpbarron: ah this http://trilema.com/2013/case-i-wences-vs-mpex-breach-of-fiduciary-duty/
punkman: nubbins`: i actually didn't realize mp owned assbot << I thought kakobrekla owned assbot
jurov: it goes back long time to things like the wences lawsuit, i likened the situation to mpex having a sinkhole in the foyer
jurov: i wish i got some sound reasoning here, too
danielpbarron: I have had my mind changed by sound reasoning
jurov: danielpbarron: do you have any idea how many times i heard that in my life? surely you must have did too, did you likewise obey them?
nubbins`: but really all i'm doing here is filling in the time between layers of ink
fluffypony: nubbins`: I've added you to my Official 2016 T-shirt Printer List
asciilifeform: nubbins`: but i can hardly picture that ~this~ is what it looks like.
nubbins`: asciilifeform there's plenty of folk i like talking to here besides you :D
jurov: trinque, danielpbarron: i am not fine with things, what do you think i can do?
asciilifeform: nubbins`: you can have'em with me in pm if it strikes your fancy. when i'm home, which is maybe 1.2 hr/day. hell, i still talk to vex!
nubbins`: asciilifeform i stuck around here for the interesting convos, verbal diarrhoea from mp aside.
asciilifeform: trinque: i am beginning to see mp's pov on this, now.
nubbins`: i actually didn't realize mp owned assbot
asciilifeform: nubbins`: what i don't get is why you continue here, instead of opening a:
asciilifeform: i kinda wonder how this would be going down if we were using gossipd.
asciilifeform: trinque: i suppose that if we imitate republican spain long enough, mp will take his ball and go home, and there will be no l1 etc.
danielpbarron: i really wish you wouldn't
asciilifeform: nubbins`: so far the point of greatest disagreement between him and i is whether to talk to nubbins` !
nubbins`: <+asciilifeform>nubbins`: what am i then. in what box do i live in, in your cosmos ? << the box where deference trumps cold reason
BingoBoingo: https://i.sli.mg/kslkpx.jpg
asciilifeform: nubbins`: and here i was thinking i could at least achieve championship as arse.
jurov: just to complete the picture, i had to privately calm down several people who were utterly freaked out :(
asciilifeform: nubbins`: what am i then. in what box do i live in, in your cosmos ?
nubbins`: man, if there's one person i stopped reading earlier today, it's trinque
asciilifeform: nubbins`: if tomorrow mircea_popescu decides that i am an imbecile and never speaks to me again, i will build exactly same items. and even offer him free sample!
nubbins`: <+mircea_popescu>let me point out to you that bitbet came down over my realisation that this is how you lot think. stop fucking thinking like this before i have to cut more heads. <<< or, put another way, "stfu talking dangerous talk, alf, or s.nsa is next"
trinque: I reject the notion of having no face entirely
trinque: I can see your perspective there
asciilifeform: precisely the opposite of 'i just want to x, leave me be.'
asciilifeform: and lay out what i see as logical case, etc.
asciilifeform: and by commenting, was fulfilling what i see as my obligation to work in the forum.
asciilifeform: i do not have strong emotions about bbet, or the participating folks.
asciilifeform: trinque: i bring it up because i reject the accusation of partaking in the emotional wreck.